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    EOW 141 The Pilgrim's Trail, reality check



    EOW 141The Pilgrim's Trail


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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_de_Compostela
    In medieval and Renaissance times one of the Major Pilgrimage sites in Europe Was the Cathedral of St. James of Campostela. This weeks assignment is to show something along those routes related to the pilgrimage. There are many stunning monasterys and amazing towns along those routes, for example Mont St Michel in France is a pilgrim waystation .. so do some research. find something related to this pilgrimage and era.
    This is a reality check assignment, I want a real place, and reference.
    The attached Picture is one such site, Rocamadour, France


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    Wow, great idea!
    I wonder if google-streetview went along that path already...

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    @ chaosrocks, If I understand it correct it´s your birthday today so Congratulation on your day. I Just want to say that I appriceate the time and effort you put in to this forum, so that I have something to do when I come home from work.

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    thank you..

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    Basilica of the Assumption and St. Cyril and Methodius in Czech Republic

    First rough sketch of basilica.
    Velehrad is a village in the Uherské Hradiště District (Zlín Region) of the Czech Republic. It has a population of 1,323 and is the most important pilgrimage place in the Czech Republic. In Middle Ages (IX - beg.X century) it was the capitol of the Slavic state of Great Moravia. In the 1990s it was visited twice by the Pope John Paul II.
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    Nice topic.
    Dont know so much about the pilgrim era.
    Left wip Rocamadour newer been there but seem to be very beautiful and dramatic place.
    Right wip Old Uppsala Sweden.
    Don't know were to go yet.

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    Nice sketch looking forward to see more.

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    Looking good so far smot and JanJager

    Here's my wip of San Adrian Tunnel. Found it pretty difficult to actually find out what any of the landmarks on the trails were but I eventually found this (which I think looks very creepy).

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    tunnel? cool! I googled the tunnel

    sites on the pilgrim"s road to campostela. and I did mean this road

    conques
    rocamadour
    Mont St Michel

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:St...mpostelle1.png
    look at the map

    for goodness sake this isn't difficult, google pilgrim route campostela, set google on images.... yeesh

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    yes, yes, I did google Pilgrim Route and the Way of St James but the sites I found only showed the start and end of the routes, with nothing about the places along the way. That said, I don't think I saw that map so I must have missed wikipedia.

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    I think it is important to realize that cities and not landmarks are on that map.
    Where is Rocamadour on that map? At the time wasn't it a monastic complex and it was on the route; however, it is not a city.

    So Zapp!, I think your fine even if your location doesn't appear on the map.
    Mine doesn't, though it is outside of Astorga.

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    I didn't see this link in the ones Wikipedia provided: http://www.csj.org.uk//digilib-intro.htm

    Looks like they've archived some nice high-quality images, and segregated them by pilgrimage route: http://www.csj.org.uk//gallery/category.php

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    @ JanJager

    Was curious if u where from sweden, cause I am, not Uppsala though, but from Ystad.

    Anyway liked the wip.

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    Not really finished, but getting there... Ive probably spent way too much time on this as it stands right now, but I am looking for a bit of direction with a few things:

    First of all, the perspective on the town in the bottom middle is a bit "forced", but to my defense, they are kind of built in to the side of the cliff on the midground section. I think that adding some shadow or some jagged cliffs may help out the midground's persepctive?

    2nd, I think its a bit too milky... and I know theres a way to get rid of the "milkness" but I forget how to do it, and the Gnomon DVD that I use for reference is at the library @ school (but I am on summer break! )

    Last, I dont exactly know what I am going to do with the foreground, I know that usually has to be the most detailed part... right now I have it mainly silhouetted. I know that if I push the atmospheric perspective on the background, it should make work a bit easier on the foreground.

    So yeah... I need a little bit of help on this one. Feel free to make suggestions, would love feedback.

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    Hey everyone.Here's what I have so far. Trying to get the atmosphere correct. Rendering is probably going to take some time. I'll be doing some more research too.

    @smot: good perspective and information, as a suggestion, some nice dramatic lighting.

    @jAnjager: hey jan, yours is looking really good so far. I really like the one on the left, can't wait to see it.

    @zapp!: nice tunnel.

    @limewax: keep up the good work!

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    Cool topic. Will try to do something for this.

    JanJager: That left thumbnail is gorgeous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Limewax View Post
    First of all, the perspective on the town in the bottom middle is a bit "forced", but to my defense, they are kind of built in to the side of the cliff on the midground section. I think that adding some shadow or some jagged cliffs may help out the midground's persepctive?
    There should definitely be a sharp definition between the foreground and the valley in the middle. The foreground needs more definition; it has to be sharp there to give the illusion of depth. And the fog needs to be over the background bits only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Limewax View Post
    Last, I dont exactly know what I am going to do with the foreground, I know that usually has to be the most detailed part... right now I have it mainly silhouetted. I know that if I push the atmospheric perspective on the background, it should make work a bit easier on the foreground.
    Trees alone would be accurate, but also somewhat boring. What about a wayside cross to the right foreground?

    http://www.csj.org.uk//gallery/pictu...4&image_id=466

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlHazred View Post
    There should definitely be a sharp definition between the foreground and the valley in the middle. The foreground needs more definition; it has to be sharp there to give the illusion of depth. And the fog needs to be over the background bits only.

    Trees alone would be accurate, but also somewhat boring. What about a wayside cross to the right foreground?

    http://www.csj.org.uk//gallery/pictu...4&image_id=466
    Thanks for the feedback.... I followed your suggestions about the foreground definition and I corrected the atmosphere from the BG that was leaking in to the foreground. I also started to work a bit more on the light source (from the viewpoint, the sun is just breaking the horizon line from the viewer's back left on a chilly morning)

    If I added in the wayside cross @ right foreground, I think that it would help me sell scale and perspective but I think it would have to be a large, large cross, with maybe some nobles worshiping or performing some sort of ritual. Do you think that may be the direction?

    Im still up in the air on my foreground such a wimpy artist afraid to take risks.... hahah.



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    Castillo templario de Ponferrada

    Hello all,
    Have been lurking here a while enjoying your works. As this was a brief that had some reality to it I decided to have a go and post.
    The inspiration a templar castle on the pilgrim way. The reference image is here
    http://translate.google.com/translat...al%26prmd%3Div

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    The church of St. Mary Of Eunate along the pilgrimage route of Santiago De Compostela towards St. James.


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    Great. very god depth in the picture. It rely feels like viewing a landscape. Perhaps render out a bit more on the building and the ground in front of it.
    smot
    Very nice. Dramatic ski.
    ironchicken
    Looks god. Maybe ad some more hard shadows.
    Limewax
    I think its coming out well.
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    Beatiful and harmonic. I like the vegetation and the light.
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    God start. A bit early to crit.

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    Crucero de Santo Toribio was the ref material that I leapt from.
    http://www.google.com/images?client=...og&sa=N&tab=wi



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    oops my apologies
    final burning is posted

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    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...59#post2738259
    poll's up

    I'm sorry you who did the work didn't chose to move your pieces.
    theres some nice work in here. although in general I was disappointed withthe lack of response, or willingness to dig a little. there are some incredibly cool sites (no one even jumped at the fairy tale awesomeness that is Mont St MIchel)
    oh well
    see you next round

    posted here
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...10#post2741610

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    I'm well aware that wips are not required in EOW.

    However, Thank You to all who posted WIPs of their artwork and to those who offered constructive advice / help & links. =]

    *Note* Simply my opinion & observation:

    The WIP section:
    Is where any constructive help (or c&c) should ideally be made & is most benefitial to artists.

    The Final / Poll section:
    While I'm sure this goes against the norm of the majority of users here; this section is the last stage, I feel it is not the time or place to critique after the fact.

    Again, to all participants, I say "Thank You" =]

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    I haven't made a gif animation in a long, long time but I figured I'll try. Here's the steps of my "Iron Cross" painting.. There's a few times where I didn't know what direction i was going in, especially the sky (which is why it comes and goes) until I finally decided a simple foggy sky would do.. I usually paint in black and white first then when I think it's finished, I'll make a separate layer and add color. Then play with Hue/Saturation and Brightness & Contrast to get the right feeling.

    Also towards the end, I rotated the painting because I thought it would look better a little lopsided.. Somehow the post with the iron cross reminded me of a Ship's "mast" lost in the ocean



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