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    Updated! The art of the feminine form with Manley/Zhanglu NOW ON DEMAND!!!

    This coming Sunday we begin a new round of live streaming classes with a very beautiful program on the art of the feminine form. With three beautiful demonstrations by Massive Black Shanghai artist Zhanglu, and an in depth presentation by Jason Manley (yep me!), you will hear and see the information you need to understand when painting the female figure.

    When: Sunday May 2 2010 12PM - 4PM Central Daylight Time (Austin TX time). Four hours of beauty, instruction, and art are yours. An assignment will be included.
    Where: Right here on ConceptArt.Org Live and On Demand (forums link to come!)
    How: Just have an ok connection and we are good to go. We will be using TAD's technology which is stable, light on bandwidth, and extremely reliable. The login information will come with the email after tuition is covered.
    How much: 50.00 USD.
    How do I get it? Click the link for the store here: http://www.conceptartstore.com/femalefigure.html

    Here is a taste of what is to come...including some of the photography we will be discussing by the one and only www.ibarraphoto.com Beautiful stuff huh? The drawings are all to be seen as demos too. This is going to be great!

    I hope you enjoy the work and I will see you Sunday!

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    ah crap. I just exhausted my budget for tutorials. Oh well-hahaha! Zhanglu/Manley hybrids are too good to pass up! X)

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    Zhang Lu. Sold.

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    Is this going to be available for streaming after the class. I am out of town this weekend and but really want to see this.

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    Yes you can have it On Demand!



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    Nice, can't make the live look forward to watching it afterwards though.

    Thanks Jason and ZhangLu.

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    hawt! Im extremely low on money now, at the same time as I am not finished with Discovery on demand, but I might get in on demand!

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    Kick ass ! Just bought both the Zhanglu portrait videos, may have to check this out as well. Who did the images in the first post ? Those all Zhanglu ? Or Manley as well ?

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    Will it also be available as Download? Or only streaming?

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    Some questions if you don't mind.

    1 Is this constructional/sculptural or visual figuredrawing?
    2 Will there be an explanation of the basic forms used to allow drawing from memory?
    3 Will Zhanglu be drawing from a live model or a photograph?
    4 If drawn from a model or photograph, can you show the originals as to compare?

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    nice work , very talented !

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    I second Hyskoa questions.

    I dont suppose this would be useful to be at my current (low) skill level (of crapness) but wow those painting are absolutly gorgeous.

    If anything I am inspired so that one day the videos will be useful to me

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    Superb!
    not to mention the price... 50$ ...

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    Zhanglu is such a gifted artist. This class will be one not to miss. I wonder if the image samples are from imagination... or if the demos during the class will be.

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    Perfect! I've been studying the female form meticulously the past few weeks, this should prove the perfect supplement! I missed a lot of really good classes due to budget, I'ma do everything in my power to make this one! I've even got a female model coming to stay with me this weekend... should be exciting!

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    Hmmm... maybe, just maybe.

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    Is there any chance of this streaming becoming a download any time in the future? (My computer tends to overheat when I see streaming videos )

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    answers...

    Thanks for all the questions. Here are some answers.

    A. Zhanglu did the paintings. The class will consist of these images in demonstration form, along with a series of beautiful images from art history and photography to illustrate the major points.
    B. We will be discussing everything from structure to anatomy to posing and body language, to methods used to create inner character, idealization, overcoming cliche, and more...We will discuss process, and theory as related to the female figure in order to help artists to better create from life and imagination. Understanding the female form and how to communicate with it, is of the most important things in the field of concept design, illustration, video games, film, and fine art. This is going to be a great class.
    C. The video stream will be available On Demand and can be watched anytime.
    D. There will be a live question and answer period which has a demonstration happening during that time as well, so you can get all the answers you want. Just ask.
    The software we use allows for voice chat, so if you have a mic you can simply speak to me as you would if I were there with you. There is also text chat, for those without mics.
    E. We have some beautiful things coming. I updated the thread with some examples of the works I will be discussing, along with the video demonstrations.
    F. At time Zhanglu will gather reference for things like hands, or feet, or a particular face. Other times he works from imagination purely. I will ask for some ref, if he still has it.
    G. Right now I do not have a download planned for this. This is a good taste of what TAD is going to be like. I can't wait to share some more.
    H. This class is for beginners, intermediate and advanced artists. Everyone will take away information that helps them. The works we will explore are beautiful. I look forward to sharing all that is prepared.


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    I don't want to pay for a product, which is (maybe) not allways available (for watching again). I think it might be much cheaper. It is NOT ONLY 50 bucks for a "cinema ticket". I think download would be better and I would maybe buy it as Download. So I am out as a customer of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soros View Post
    I don't want to pay for a product, which is (maybe) not allways available (for watching again). I think it might be much cheaper. It is NOT ONLY 50 bucks for a "cinema ticket". I think download would be better and I would maybe buy it as Download. So I am out as a customer of this.
    Not available for watching again? On Demand lets you watch it as many times as you want for 30 days... thatīs a lot of days for 50$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soros View Post
    I don't want to pay for a product, which is (maybe) not allways available (for watching again). I think it might be much cheaper. It is NOT ONLY 50 bucks for a "cinema ticket". I think download would be better and I would maybe buy it as Download. So I am out as a customer of this.
    I completely agree. The topic is fine but what are these streaming classes anyway? I really don't get it. I have tried to look into some of the earlier streaming classes but the links found around the forum are not providing much info and not even a preview of some of the streaming classes on demand. $ 50 is a steep price to be following a class once over the internet at an awkward time for those who isn't in the same time zone (I'm in Denmark). It would be perfectly okay if it's was a live event where I could be there in person and the instructor could give some feedback to your own technique etc.

    I have bought most of the downloads on digital painting but I think the streaming stuff is to expensive considering that you apparently only have one chance to watch it and because it's very hard to judge what you get before you join a streaming class.

    I know my reservations could be based upon lack of or faulty information. Can somebody please describe what is a streaming class. What is the product I'm buying?...

    Nice paintings, by the way...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Locke View Post
    I completely agree. The topic is fine but what are these streaming classes anyway? I really don't get it. I have tried to look into some of the earlier streaming classes but the links found around the forum are not providing much info and not even a preview of some of the streaming classes on demand. $ 50 is a steep price to be following a class once over the internet at an awkward time for those who isn't in the same time zone (I'm in Denmark). It would be perfectly okay if it's was a live event where I could be there in person and the instructor could give some feedback to your own technique etc.

    I have bought most of the downloads on digital painting but I think the streaming stuff is to expensive considering that you apparently only have one chance to watch it and because it's very hard to judge what you get before you join a streaming class.

    I know my reservations could be based upon lack of or faulty information. Can somebody please describe what is a streaming class. What is the product I'm buying?...

    Nice paintings, by the way...
    Streaming classes are like real classes except they are filmed and streamed over the internet. This allows the instructors to draw or show slides at the same time as they explain and teach the students (us). Alongside the streaming window there is a chatwindow where you can type to alle the students, and the instructors. You can raise your hand to ask questions, type them up or use mic to ask instructors.

    These classes are recorded so that you can watch it later (called on demand). Not only is the instructorswindow recorded, but the chat and everything! Meaning that if you miss out on the class, you can later on watch the on demand as many times as you want for 30 days. This has been my case very often, seeing I work a lot and awkward times for me too (Norway). I feel I have never missed out, because you get to hear the Q&A of the students and instructors on demand too.

    50$ is pretty good price for watching a class as many times as you want for 30 days. Trust me. I haven't once felt ripped off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Locke View Post
    I completely agree. The topic is fine but what are these streaming classes anyway? I really don't get it. I have tried to look into some of the earlier streaming classes but the links found around the forum are not providing much info and not even a preview of some of the streaming classes on demand. $ 50 is a steep price to be following a class once over the internet at an awkward time for those who isn't in the same time zone (I'm in Denmark). It would be perfectly okay if it's was a live event where I could be there in person and the instructor could give some feedback to your own technique etc.

    I have bought most of the downloads on digital painting but I think the streaming stuff is to expensive considering that you apparently only have one chance to watch it and because it's very hard to judge what you get before you join a streaming class.

    I know my reservations could be based upon lack of or faulty information. Can somebody please describe what is a streaming class. What is the product I'm buying?...

    Nice paintings, by the way...
    ON DEMAND Means watch it as much as you want. Even for more than 30 days. we still have content up and running from last July. so most of it we don't take down. and 50 dollars is discounted form the regular price of 95 bucks. We are in the middle of putting up a FREE look where you can see what the software that TAD will be built on looks and operates like. but this class is a great chance to just jump in with two feet and try something new!
    Not to mention being able to communicate LIVE with your instructor and ask questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConceptArt.Org View Post
    ON DEMAND Means watch it as much as you want. Even for more than 30 days. we still have content up and running from last July. so most of it we don't take down. and 50 dollars is discounted form the regular price of 95 bucks. We are in the middle of putting up a FREE look where you can see what the software that TAD will be built on looks and operates like. but this class is a great chance to just jump in with two feet and try something new!
    Not to mention being able to communicate LIVE with your instructor and ask questions.

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    Thanks Scooter for answering too Iīm also a little relieved. Still got many of the Discovery classes to get through!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConceptArt.Org View Post
    ON DEMAND Means watch it as much as you want. Even for more than 30 days. we still have content up and running from last July. so most of it we don't take down.
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    Yay! Thanks Scooter, it was a toss up between this and food for the rest of the month...so hopefully it will still be On Demand by 25th May when I get paid?

    I vote for a good man study too most life models seem to be women, I need to practice my male anatomy.

    zou Bummer! Does that mean you can't get any of the downloads either?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ConceptArt.Org View Post
    and 50 dollars is discounted form the regular price of 95 bucks.

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    And how long will the discount last ? Is it for those only who buy it before the live ?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Manley View Post
    A. Zhanglu did the paintings. The class will consist of these images in demonstration form, along with a series of beautiful images from art history and photography to illustrate the major points.
    What kind of major points? And can I assume that demonstration form means he does the buildup much like he did the "faces" download?
    B. We will be discussing everything from structure to anatomy to posing and body language, to methods used to create inner character, idealization, overcoming cliche, and more...We will discuss process, and theory as related to the female figure in order to help artists to better create from life and imagination. Understanding the female form and how to communicate with it, is of the most important things in the field of concept design, illustration, video games, film, and fine art. This is going to be a great class.
    How will structure and anatomy be discussed? Will you give examples on how to simplify the form when drawing the figure by overlaying basic shapes on top of photographs? Or is it a simple referral to hogarth books? Will the anatomy be shown on livemodels as with the anatomy livestream by mr vandruff or is it just on which books to buy?
    E. We have some beautiful things coming. I updated the thread with some examples of the works I will be discussing, along with the video demonstrations.
    thank you.
    F. At time Zhanglu will gather reference for things like hands, or feet, or a particular face. Other times he works from imagination purely. I will ask for some ref, if he still has it.
    So this is like the previous one where he worked without a livemodel?
    Am I wrong to assume this isn't analytical modeldrawing then?
    You know, how to cope with a moving model, how to measure, check proportions and alike?

    And is it analytical, constructional or visual figuredrawing he will explain?

    Cheers.

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    Artists who join for this class get to ask questions directly, with their own voice and I may even have time to look at some of the student works, so have a link ready if I ask for one! You get the information and you get to learn. That is a good thing. It will be available On Demand too.

    Hope that clarifies things for you.

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