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    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)

    Hello folks , now I´m here to show you my new project, as you can see is a dragon orhis head, by now), made of sculpey, I hope tou can spend your time to comment or critic it ,thanks a lot :

    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
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    Cool! Nice design, very nice execution, lovely texturing and as it's a classy fantasy creature no-one can pull you up on musculature or any of that ........... Nice! Very interested to watch the rest of the sculpt as it comes together.

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    Nice, but the texture's a little choppy. I take it it's still to be smoothed over?

    Quote Originally Posted by Waipunga View Post
    as it's a classy fantasy creature no-one can pull you up on musculature or any of that
    Do. You. Wanna. Bet? Even fantasy creatures should adhere to a few anatomical rules and verisimilitude, unless we're talking about amorphous shapeshifting blobs. The better examples in art do, even if the underlying biomechanics and physiology couldn't work IRL.

    Coming from a wargaming miniatures background, the last three or four decades of dragon minis are - with a handful of exceptions - littered with wonky body shapes, nonsensical appendages, tired old memes and cliches, and plain old half-assed sculpting. I don't think we have to worry about the latter in this case, though.
    But I've become a grumpy, obsessive old fart when it comes to dragons. There are a couple of small mini forums that know how much. Thanks to you, Waipunga, I'll be sticking to this topic and maybe CA will see what a single-minded stickler I am, too. 'Cos to be honest I'm also a little fed up with some of the platitudes and free passes I see on CA, when the aim is supposed to be honest, critical feedback; even with fantasy subjects.

    Last edited by Vermis; April 21st, 2010 at 09:35 AM.
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    Woow !! it´s sound cool , "The Choppy Dragon" now it will be,Thanks for comment. XD.

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    I use those same beads; rather, my students use them. The holes are a pain. I'd like to find beads sans holes. Guess those would be ball bearings?

    I like the overall design. The texturing is almost a motif, the way it repeats over various segments of the head.

    Once brushed with alcohol or other solvent, the roughness should get knocked down enough to allow your vision to shine through.

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    What anatomical correctness can you assign to a fantasy creature Vermis? My thoughts are if it looks cool (and this one does) it is cool. OK take this a step further: Take it off World, three times our barometric pressure, gravity twice what ours is, huge amounts of minerals in the water (if there is water) and this creature has an exoskeleton. Hmmmmmmm so what are you going to get?

    Too much anger in the World anyway Chap, so I shall be most interested to observe your "grumpy obsessive" self in action by maybe coming up with a dragon which is excellent by your standards, not based on Dinosaurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waipunga View Post
    What anatomical correctness can you assign to a fantasy creature Vermis? My thoughts are if it looks cool (and this one does) it is cool.
    The big thing is that it should look like the muscles contracting would actually move the limbs around. A lot of dragons are painted or sculpted with muscles in places where they couldn't actually do anything.

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    Yeah, totally. It's a fantasy creature. Not a fantasy blorb.

    You're used to seeing animals (like, for instance, humans), and things that deviate from that norm in fantasy should do so pointedly. If there's a weird muscle, it's because it moves in a weird direction. Otherwise, why bother sculpting it at all? Why bother making bulges that aren't muscles? If they're in nonsensical places, it makes the creature just look ... bulgy. Not strong.

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    Thanks a lot for all your comments, more pics of progress:

    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
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    I notice you're paying some attention to skeletal structure. If Choppy here is going to have wings, how are you going to make a hexapodal vertebrate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshua A.C. Newman View Post
    I notice you're paying some attention to skeletal structure. If Choppy here is going to have wings, how are you going to make a hexapodal vertebrate?

    Well... I´ll just fantasying with this hexapodal thing!! XD

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    Heyoh. I'm back. Arncha glad to see me?

    Some of the basic elements you're blocking in are looking fairly humanoid - ribcage flattened back-to-front, position of the shoulder joint, arrangement of the pelvic girdle. The very basic state and the pose (which I like) complicate things - I don't know if you're trying for a humanoid dragon; but if not, it could be in danger of looking a bit like a guy in a rubber suit.

    Early days yet, though.

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    Lookin' good FF! The head looks great and I really like the positioning of the armature so far.

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    looking so good so far man,the armature of the body looks great,congratulations.

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    thanks for commenting, here I leave, some pics of progress of my dragon:


    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
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    I like this. Really looking forwards to see where you take it. Fact is I would like to see this one done without wings. Like a water dragon or something similar. That would be cool :-)

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    I think what Vermis is suggesting is that while it is fantasy you can try to create a feel of structure as in attempt to make muscles similar to how they work on real life critters. Lizards for example or even dino bones might help.

    Is the head baked yet? If no the texture is fine and I doubt you will even need a solvent. If it is baked and you can melt texture with solvent that's new to me. So far though I like how it's shaping up.

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    True dat. I've stuck up an updated and slightly more concise essay/complaint/rant on my sketchbook. Keep most of the bitching and fighting out of this thread.

    Ah. The old roof shingles have turned up. Why?

    Last edited by Vermis; May 21st, 2010 at 06:18 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vermis View Post
    True dat. I've stuck up an updated and slightly more concise essay/complaint/rant on my sketchbook. Keep most of the bitching and fighting out of this thread.

    Ah. The old roof shingles have turned up. Why?

    Wooow I realize that you really love dragons (dracofilia or so), but do not worry, I will make a dragon that makes me feel proud, just me, hehehe joke,I´ll try to do my best, thanks for comment.

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    Even at the early stages there is allready so much 'motion' going on bringing it to life. Keep it up my friend.

    So, where will your imagination take you today?...
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    This is a pretty neat looking dragon so far, got a lot of personality going. Looking forward to seeing it coming together!

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    Well ,thanks a lot for comments, more pics of progress:


    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
    "Choppy the dragon" in sculpey wip (STARTING THE BODY)
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    Hey, it's been awhile since we have seen you. I like where you are going with this. I like the neck treatment.... I could see that going all the way to the tail.
    And I like what you did to the foot. Nice texture.
    Hey,,, whats up with Dorthey and Co,

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    Love the dragon - its got a nice lizard-y feel to it.

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    Hey, finally an update on this guy! Looking cool.

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    wow, beautiful work, love the stylized look you went with, would love to see the scales continue on thru the rest of the form. love the head you made. and your anatomy is legal tight.

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    very outstanding job what u did...i love it the skin texture..

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