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    Been a while since I've participated in EOW. This seems like a good topic to get back into it.
    Here's what I have so far...

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    Quick update for tonight, still lots to do. I'll try to give to some crits tomorrow.

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    Random wip
    (I'm a beginner at enviro any clue, tip or crit welcome)

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    Marco_Mazzoni This is neat, fungus inspired? The first version felt like it had a tad more drama and mystery with the slightly closer crop - the extra fungus added on the right side feels unnecessary to me. You have played with a good variety of curves and angles so the eye still flows around though.

    vrt It feels to me like you haven't confidently decided on colors - something thats not easy to do. Too much black for all the bounced light that might occur and more colors would make it pop more, so just do some paintovers with more color and see if you find something you like.

    pepps Pretty neat so far. I think its a bit too chaotic with soo many shapes all with similar edges...its hard to find good places for the eye to rest as there is soo much going on. I would suggest simplifying some areas, while working towards keeping others more predominant.

    Feil_Magnus Few thoughts - nice overall structure to the piece. The white got wayy to overblown to me, it needs a more fleshed out value scale with some midtones somewhere or its hard to understand where everything is sitting. I would also remove the lowest entrance - this to me makes the bottom far too compositionally heavy and drops right off the bottom of the page. Try putting another higher up and on a different angle to encourage more vertical eye movement.

    JanJager Hard to settle on one hey? Going with this? Some forms are a bit hard to make out - is the entire thing supported on those legs? Does the structure simply end on the right side? The bottom right corner feels very grey, I would bring some color back there to keep balance. It doesnt feel like there is much harmony in the pale yellows and blue greens, I would mess around with a few quick color washes to test more variations.

    Good luck! Hope some of my thougths help along the way and I'll get my final started very soon

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    @ Jakers and JanJager. Thanks for the crit guys. Helped alot.

    Ok. Here's an update. Nearly trashed this idea but I thought i'd stick with it. Not massively happy with it but its alot better than it was IMO. Might do a little more on it if I get time. Will see.

    I'll give some feedback soon. The entries are looking great so far!

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    I've added 2 versions - one without the glowing doorways and one with. My gut says that it reads much stronger without them. I think the glowing doors make the hive much less important and will need another solution.

    I went through many textural ideas on the hive and thought it needed a more organic texture - however its not nearly as striking as the previous bold patterns. Is this for better? Suggestions welcome.



    JanJager Thanks for the feedback, you are right about the perspective on those patterns!

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    Jakers: The only issue I see is the closest glowing door. I think it could look alright with the doorway if the curve of the 'web' is more emphasized. It looks a little slapped-on now. Perhaps more foreground detail would lead the eye in better, too, but it might cost you the effect of depth you've got going on.

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    what I got so far..



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    Ok. I'm done i think.

    Quite pleased with how it turned out in the end. Could carry on adding stuff but i thought i'd better stop while im ahead.

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    Marco Mazzoni - Awesome!
    Feil Magnus - Pretty good so far, not sure about the light stroke in the middle tho...
    Jan Jager - I like it, can't wait for the finished version
    Jakers - I'm not sure...I like them both xD I'd probably go for the one with the lights tho, looks more alive.
    Benza - I dig the colors ^^
    Stinger88 - Great entry!

    Here's my current WIP, haven't had much time to work on it lately. Hope I'll finish it in time! C&C appreciated.



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    Can I just say how awesome I think every one of these is? No, you want actual criticism, even from an uninformed newb?

    Marco Mazzoni: Very nice use of shadow. I get a definite creepy vibe, like the scenes in Aliens where the marine are entering the alien nest.
    Feil Magnus: I like the sense of grandeur, though I agree with Jakers critique.
    Benza: Groovy. Love where it's going! The only thing I have to say
    Stinger88: I love the sense of alienness I get from it. Plausible, yet definitely not from around here. The only aspect that I don't think quite comes through is "alien capital city" -- it's just not large enough in my opinion -- but there's almost a warping of space effect going on behind it, so you can't be sure how big it really is.
    TSOnline: Love the naturalistic setting, though right now it could be a natural formation on an alien world.
    JanJager: Once again, you have a great feel for alien settings! Can't wait to see the finished product!
    Jakers: I love the way you play with perspective and angle in your submission! The only problem with eliminating the glowing doorways is the way it makes the whole thing look less like a city. The doorways give it an inhabited look. Maybe incorporate some "non-native" elements to show how the hive mind integrates traded technologies?

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    okie dookie...lets give some feedback.

    TSOnline Thanks yours is looking great also. I think the forest surrounding it needs some refining and maybe make the lake a little larger. Maybe coming all the way to the bottom of the pic. This would allow you to get a nice reflection in there.

    Benza Loving the colours and it looks like a great way yu've blocked in the shapes. Looking forward to more.

    Jakers Looks great. I think i prefer the Doors version. It gives a greater sense of scale.

    JanJager Nice...Great angle and lovely atmosphere. No crits

    Feil Magnus Looks like a nice structure so far. Need an update to see where its going.

    Marco Mazzoni Yes...very nice. Love the spiraling centre piece. No crits

    vrt Looks like a great piece evolving there. I get no indication that its a hive though. Is there some way you could bring that in? Hope you finish it anyway.

    pepps Again. a great piece so far but im not getting much of a "hive" feel.

    fury3 lovely structure. Like the fact you've got it in water. Could the creatures that live in it be amphibian...I wonder...

    Obilex Very nice. Great lighting.

    Ok..thats all i got time for. Sorry if I missed you.

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    Thanks a lot for the feedback guys, it definately helps.

    TSonline i liked how the holes used to go deep inside, I just thought if they were darker tunnels it would be better for the mood. Its interesting you went for a more happy setting - I agree with AlHazred, it looks rather like a normal rock structure (I have reference images of similar forms with crater like holes) so think of a way to make it look constructed. I would also play with the overlap of layers of forest as this would occur more on a lower perspective.


    Heres an update on mine with hopfully a solution. I felt the foreground door was stealing a lot of attention, so I removed it and left the others - tilted the canvas more...its almost like a space image of alien planets which I kind of like. I want to add some critter silhouettes for the hive idea to be more clear.

    Any other suggests welcome!

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    Tried something new.. still funky colours I guess. Felt that the earlier post was to similiar to some of the other post considering shapes.. maby have time to finish it off later on, but like I said.. more funkyness..



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    Lots and lots of great designs. I'm very envious. here's a bit of an update to my first ever EOW.

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    Think this will be the last one.. unless we are given alot of extra time on this on.
    Feel free to comment and crit as it is from that I learn

    Hope u donīt mind that I donīt crit your work, but I donīt feel that Iīm in a position to tell u whats good and not.



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    whoa what a round, sweet topic, here is a sketch with off perspective

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    hey NO extra time!
    I got too much backchat for giving you extra time. if you are going to berate me for leiniency then you have to put upwiththe resulting stricter deadlines structure

    this closes at 8am April 28th EST (midnight Aprill 27th in Hawaii) so two days folks.

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    I really like your brush technic and the way of handling colours. Hope you have time to finish.
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    Coming out well. Like the things coming out from the bottom of the shapes. Perhaps a bit more contrast
    in colours and values between the object and the background.
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    Coming out well. I like the latest wip. Howsoever the door made it interesting. But from my point of view it spit the attention. Perhaps have the door
    very discrete or ad some creatures. I love the perspective and the texture.
    TSonline
    Cool picture. Nice mod. Perhaps add some sharp shadows do define where the light source is located. Maybe add some alien texture to the hive.
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    Grate Love the composition and the atmosphere. Good shapes and light. The smoke on the floor gives life to the picture.

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    Here's progress from tonight. I just expanded the format, so the space on the left looks a little empty for now, but I have plans for it The next few days are going to be busy with travel, so I'm not sure what I'll be able to get to though.

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    I tried to change some parts according to the crits you guys gave
    But waow such entries, don't know what crit I could give.
    Anyway here 's another wip, i should render some parts a bit more I guess

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    Marco How long has this image taken approximately?? Your use of 3D space and sharp rendering are above me - looking very fine. The lighting much more dramatic, and the even wider format now feels right with a good sense of setting. I'll stop ass patting now. maybe.

    Feil_Magnus Definately much improved tones! you've managed to keep the focal point strong without the need for extreme light.

    JanJager thanks for your thoughts - I agree, and hope to have come up with a good solution. let me know!


    Incorporating a more fleshed out setting and story, as I felt the image as a whole as too simple. I might spend more time on the last day here tightening things up - give a shout with any crits at all. Thanks guys, this has been a good learning experience.

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    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...96#post2722796

    Final Burning is posted. 24 hours folks

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    Just to check the deadline for us brits.

    It 13:00 on the 28th? Yes?

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    Marco Mazzoni: really like this! Heck, if the focus shifted even more to the left, I could see this as a book cover illustration, if it weren't for the fact that most publishing houses seem to be going with IMO crap art nowadays.

    Feil Marcus: The detail is great! Before it was pretty washed out, but now I can see what I was missing. I don't know what criticism to give -- maybe add some activity? Not sure what or where.

    Jakers: Really like this! Keep feeling something crawling on me!

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    thnx for all the feedback, it really helped ^^ here's my finished image, see you all at the final burning



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    deadline is 0800am EST on the 28th, as EST is GMT + 5 that would make it 1300 for you brits... and from now on you get to do your own math

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    Wow. The entiries are getting really good!..

    Anyhoo...I've gone a done another one.

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