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    Cs5 is out there!

    Being the net worm that i am i got hold of cs5.

    388mb portable(no install required) trial version of cs5

    My pc is quite slow and was incapable of handling cs4 cause the strokes lagged so comparing cs3 to cs5 it feels just wow, mean the design, the colours everything.

    And for everyone that's hyped about content-aware magic here's a pic i did

    Everything is working fine, only flaw i've noticed is if e.g. i use laso tool for too long(20 sec of dragging) cs glitches says it's not responding although it is but the not responding notification kinda messes up the cursor position until it's released.

    Cs5 is out there!
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    so can you share link for that cs5 portable trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by matejapetkovic View Post
    so can you share link for that cs5 portable trial?

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    The trials will be launched in May 2010 and be available on the official page of Adobe: List of all the CS5 software

    I can't wait to try it out. From what I've seen the brush engine could be something I'm going to either fall in love with of dislike bigtime.

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    Erhm, you used CS5 to make a picture of an asian chick into wierd porn featuring no nipples and three bellybuttons, that should've been enought o get you a temp ban even if you didn't push pirated software =p

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    So let's say I did download this software, purely hypothetically, to try it out. Then I would have thought the content aware thingie was a big let down...
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    A friend of mine tried this beta/demo and he said the mixer brush is just like the smudge brush but can now push and paint at the same time and can also use the new 3D bristles, in short Photoshop is still Photoshop, for good or for worse.

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    I'm really looking forward to trying the new bristle brushes; painter-style brushes in ps would be great.

    Now if they would just bind the color window to a hotkey or let you keep it open while you paint, it'd be heaven.

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    The short of it is, Photoshop is a piece of photography editing equipment, even though it has tools that can be used for drawing, it is not a drawing or painting app, even if we want it to be. Adobe couldn't care less what most painters want them to implement...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpahl View Post
    Now if they would just bind the color window to a hotkey or let you keep it open while you paint, it'd be heaven.
    ummm... doesn't F6 do that already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab View Post
    The short of it is, Photoshop is a piece of photography editing equipment, even though it has tools that can be used for drawing, it is not a drawing or painting app, even if we want it to be. Adobe couldn't care less what most painters want them to implement...
    They have change that . Now it is similar to painter, even better because it is ps

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab View Post
    The short of it is, Photoshop is a piece of photography editing equipment, even though it has tools that can be used for drawing, it is not a drawing or painting app, even if we want it to be. Adobe couldn't care less what most painters want them to implement...
    Digital painters are actually a pretty large market segment of Adobe. To say Adobe doesn't care about them is just wrong.

    And it's not that important what the purpose or the idea behind the first version of Photoshop was, it's more important what it does now and if it does it well. Considering the fact that PS rivals Painter for digital painting, I'd say PS is pretty good at being a drawing/painting app as well. Whether that's its primary purpose or not doesn't really matter.

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    There's a huge point Adobe seems to miss though with every version of PS they release. Very few professionals use Painter from what I've read, with good reason, as PS does what you need it to do.

    So why not just combine aspects of both PS and Painter (minus the brush lag) into one package permanently, and leave out the fluff for a cheaper, more streamlined version of PS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kab View Post
    The short of it is, Photoshop is a piece of photography editing equipment, even though it has tools that can be used for drawing, it is not a drawing or painting app, even if we want it to be. Adobe couldn't care less what most painters want them to implement...
    This is simply not true, PS began as a piece of photo editing equipment but has now become a multi purpose, imaging application that is invaluable not only to photographers, but graphic designers, illustrators, concept artists, desktop publishers, web developers, videographers, special effects teams and more. There is no dominant market for the software, even photographers would be hard pressed to claim that there are more of them using the software than say...web designers. If Adobe were to split the application up for specific user types, and create say, an exclusive photo editing application and a drawing app and a web graphics app, customers would demand they put it back together again.

    There are also limitations on 'doing what other programs do'. Technology and the code behind it is patentable, its easier said than done to just implement the same features that the other program implemented. This has to be done carefully and without replicating the process or code that the other software used.

    I think its silly to suggest Adobe dont care about an important contingent of their users, they do, they just cant dedicate the development of the product entirely to one specific user base, or compromise the performance of the software for the same reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tobbA View Post
    So let's say I did download this software, purely hypothetically, to try it out. Then I would have thought the content aware thingie was a big let down...
    because it cant guess that there are nipples and a bush under there?

    I spent all morning breaking the content aware feature, it can only work with what it has, and the patterns within the image it is editing. It can create an algorithm to generate sky or sea or grasslands, but if you give it an image of say, half your house, it cant draw the other half. Similarly, if you create a hole in a picasso, it cant figure out what should go there.

    It can warp the shit out of stuff, such as mountains, changing their shape raising and lowering peaks, and it can remove the watermark from most images in a heartbeat, but its going to screw up complex, man made forms every time.

    Personally, I think its awesome, and its going to save me a shitload of time. The redundancy of my clonestamp/ healing brush skills in an image correction situation, is irrelevant. Those tools still have a ton of uses outside image correction, that content aware doesnt touch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reymus View Post
    Very few professionals use Painter from what I've read, with good reason, as PS does what you need it to do.

    So why not just combine aspects of both PS and Painter (minus the brush lag) into one package permanently, and leave out the fluff for a cheaper, more streamlined version of PS?
    I think a lot of Pro's use Painter, just alongside photoshop to do touch ups and tranforms. I get your point tho, Painter is buggy and Photoshop is quicker and less buggy so reason would stand that photoshop gets used more. I was hoping this version of PS would allow me to ditch painter, but it looks like that is not the case yet. Although I could be completely wrong, which I'm hoping I am. Photoshop with painter brushes would be so awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiledRed View Post
    because it cant guess that there are nipples and a bush under there?
    No. Because I was expecting it to actually generate new content where you removed something. Instead it simply copies parts of the surroundings and pasts things in at random. If you have a picture of a bike and delete something on the ground beneath the bike you'll end up with a saddle or a bike handle on the ground instead. Don't think I found anywhere it could actually be used to a satisfactory extent. But I suppose tiny little objects might work. The content aware scaling does seem to work a little better. It's pretty fun to rezise faces and create creepy charicatures...
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    hey...hey....screw you guy's i'm going home!

    HONESTLY REALLY......MOST IMPORTANTE REALIZATION HERE....is that as far as an artist go's nothing really changed I have PS8 OR CS whatever you wANNA CALL it i'm not worried about CS5 ......wow each version of photoshop they ad something to wanna the tools......oooooowwwwhhhhhhhh sofisticated!!!!!
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    Adobe, you are a joke.

    The folks who make Zbrush give away major upgrades for free, while you make these pitiful tweaks which other software have had since the beginning of time, and you put a shiny new label on it and sell it as a 'new' version at full price.
    Get a grip you thieving bastards.

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    >>My pc is quite slow and was incapable of handling cs4 cause the strokes lagged so comparing cs3 to cs5 it feels just wow, mean the design, the colours everything.

    So are you saying this is faster or way slower? Not clear on your meaning.

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    So did they finally add a color wheel that actually stays open?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HunterKiller_ View Post
    Adobe, you are a joke.

    The folks who make Zbrush give away major upgrades for free, while you make these pitiful tweaks which other software have had since the beginning of time, and you put a shiny new label on it and sell it as a 'new' version at full price.
    Get a grip you thieving bastards.

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    Its not 'full price' if you're upgrading. This particular upgrade is significant and worth it to professionals who benefit from what you refer to as 'pitiful tweaks.' If you dont benefit, you dont need the upgrade, and Adobe expects that you will skip this version, or at least wait some time before upgrading.

    If other programs matched Adobe forever, as you claim, we wouldnt be using Photoshop. The fact is, that its the best most versatile imaging software out there.

    How are Adobe, thieving bastards? Are they making copies of you and distributing them on the net?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcpahl View Post
    Now if they would just bind the color window to a hotkey or let you keep it open while you paint, it'd be heaven.
    It seems as if our wish was fulfilled:


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    Quote Originally Posted by DamnDirtyApe View Post
    >>My pc is quite slow and was incapable of handling cs4 cause the strokes lagged so comparing cs3 to cs5 it feels just wow, mean the design, the colours everything.

    So are you saying this is faster or way slower? Not clear on your meaning.
    Ye, sorry for my poor sentence structure, compared to cs3 the drawing feels much much better, but i'd guess it could have been implemented into cs4 which i couldn't use as every third fast stroke would cause time lag for all the next strokes.

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    Watched all vids, not impressed.
    Looks like most features are meant for photo retouch and manipulation, the oil colors look useless, the brush seems only to smear the colors over the canvas.

    PS is great and all but the paint tools they add are for people who cannot paint.
    I can paint all images with PS5.5 just the same.

    The photo editing tools are nice, but nothing that you cannot do with older versions.
    All they seem to do is combining old tools.

    I will not upgrade till they add something really useful
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    Obviously Adobe would love to have every digital artist using their software, and most do, because it works for making art without them doing anything to cater to that market. The fact it works as a painting tool doesn't mean Adobe has intentionally done anything to cater to the painter-crowd, it just means their tools work for doing art, if you look at the airbrush in PS it's obvious it was designed for retouching photos and not for painting, can you still paint with it if you fiddle with the settings and perhaps import a few brushes to give the brush a bit of texture, sure you can and you'll get great results with practice.

    Lately they might have added a few painter-oriented functions, namely things like rotating the canvas and a Painteresque brush emchanic in CS5 (Which still looks inferior to Corel in my eyes, but hopefully performs better) but fact is that the "painter" group of users is but a footnote compared to the user base from photography and graphics editing and that Adobe's efforts are directed accordingly.

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