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April 14th, 2010 #1
NSFW: Nudity - I need help! My Painting Style is a MESS! I'm lost...
I've recently started to look at people like (sorry I only know their dA names...):
to name a FEW
and I've started to look at my stuff and really hate it! http://cuptow555.deviantart.com
My stuff looks so... digital? Flat? One Dimensional?? I don't know, I just love that painterly style and am at loss for how to achieve it. I have been driving myself INSANE trying to get out of my "scribbly" style. There have been a few times in a painting where I'm like, "Okay this is looking better..." but then the painting as a hole still ends up a failure IMO.
I know people use custom brushes and mess with layers, masks, filters, and god knows what... It just seems so overwhelming to me. I don't even know where to begin? I mean I understand Photoshop... but I don't understand how to use it to produce something like this for example:
(***NOT CLAIMING AS MINE! PAINTED BY http://crahzz.deviantart.com/ ***)
The brush strokes and splatter effects and just how it looks so... painterly! I LOVE IT!
I know a lot of people use Painter AND Photoshop... but I only have Photoshop and cannot afford Painter right now (I want Painter desperately though... maybe when i have money) but is it possible to produce something like that using only Photoshop?
I will give you an example of a painting I'm working on right now:
I used a stock photo as reference for her torso, a picture of Meghan Fox for her face, and I used my little plastic model irl for reference on her legs. I did the background completely from imagination. I'm pretty satisfied with the woman and the way I painted her. Here is a close up of her torso:
***EDIT*** Photobucket SUCKS... removed because of "nudity". I attached image at bottom ***
It DEFINITELY needs work, but it's the best I've been able to come up with when it comes to that painterly style I'm after. I'm just using basic ps brushes and smudge tool.
But the background has ABSOLUTELY driven me insane! I pretty much am about to trash this painting and start a different one. I know it's because I'm doing it from imagination that the colors look so flat in the background. But I don't know what else to do. I even made myself a little "set up" using fabric to try and replicate the webbing type stuff. But it didn't help.
I've tried using different brushes but it just looks so... random? Here's a close up of that digital horrible random brushy mess that I'm talking about:
And behind her face:
I HATE IT! I think I've painted over the background 20 million times now? And it still ends up looking like shit.
And btw this is all on one layer *facepalm* should I just cut the girl out and start a new background? or...
Anyone have any suggestions at how to get a more painterly style? I really want to buy that "Crypt Crawler - A Hostile Takeover" Tutorial... but I am COMPLETELY broke. I just wish I could watch one of these artists paint using photoshop. Because I KNOW my method is absolutely wrong... I just don't know how to fix it!
PS: I have spent literally an hour writing this thread... I don't even know what I'm asking at this point I'm going to just post this in hopes that someone can point me in the right direction.
Sorry for writing such a long thread... lawl. I thinking my major problem is that I'm just too much of a perfectionist/ over-thinker/ INSANE.
Last edited by cuptow555; April 18th, 2010 at 03:24 AM. Reason: Uploaded Crahzz's art on Photobucket since dA links don't work...
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Oh and BTW I have a background in oil painting... I went to school for oils and have absolutely no educational background when it comes to digitally painting. Maybe that's my problem.
April 14th, 2010 #3
A lot of people who paint digitally with painterly look use Painter or one of other programs that are designed to approximate traditional painting digitally.
I like how you can shade skin... I have problems with that here:
Last edited by Walter-NEST; April 14th, 2010 at 02:50 AM.
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April 14th, 2010 #5
I love where you are going with it, but in the future please remember to add NSFW in the title if there is nudity.
Might be a little late for this, but I think with the arms pulling out like that the breasts would not be aimed quite so forward. It also might be a bit of problem with the shading for the foreshortening, but her right leg looks out of proportion with the rest of her.
What are you planning for the background? It is looking pretty cool.
April 14th, 2010 #6
And thanks! I have no idea what to do about the background. I'm completely stuck. I'm seriously drained from reworking the background so much. I think maybe I should do some studies of fabric or webs or something?
And I will think about what you said about the anatomy. I agree with the shading on the legs. It's off and drove me insane. I finally was like FUCK IT, its good enough *shrugs* The background is what is really bothering me at the moment. Once I feel better about that I will be able to go back and work on her form.
As for her breasts. Hrmm... here is the reference I used: (NUDITY WARNING) http://fav.me/d2kzlz5 mine are definitely more... solid looking? Less natural. Thanks I didn't see that before! I'll work on them!
April 14th, 2010 #7
Sorry man, but I am not going to join DA. That link brings me right to a join page. Adding a link to the image itself would be better. Regarding the background, you might want to refer to some of Geiger's work because it has a similar feel and you can see how he tackled the problem.
April 14th, 2010 #8
(NUDITY WARNING) http://i969.photobucket.com/albums/a...TOCKCApost.jpg
(***I didn't take that image just FYI! Not claiming it as mine! It is owned by http://erieye-stock.deviantart.com) <--- just want to put that out there. Lol.
Ok and are you talking about HR Giger? I had never heard of him until I searched through google. WOW! He is INCREDIBLE! I of COURSE know of Aliens but had never heard of the artist. He has a SICK mind and I love it. I wish I could find better images of his work! Thanks for the recommendation!
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April 14th, 2010 #10
Just a bit.
April 14th, 2010 #11
If you want to make the BG stand out more you may try to add some lights in it, or some different colour. For exemple some yellowish or white highligts on the more prominent strings and some greenish or violet shading in the lowest (3D speaking) parts of it.
If you want a more painterly stile (in the bg, the girl seems ok to me) try to use a softer and bigger brush, to smudge the harsh feeling it ahs now..
This are just advices, I'm not a great painter, just thought that you can try them. I hope they will help you!
April 14th, 2010 #12
You are overthinking it cuptow555.
This is a really good painting that only needs some refining to be great.
You have the talent you need to finish it. Relax, go for a coffee and come back to it when you've had time to forget it. Only then will you see the value in it.
"Creativity emerges only when the imagination is given the freedom it deserves."
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