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    wow you've made some amazing progress since you started this!

    I agree with the previous comments, you should definitely do some anatomy studies, it'll really help you out. have a look at books by andrew loomis (out of print, get it online), bridgman, or hogarth. They also deal a lot with volumes, i.e. constructing your drawings properly out of 3d shapes rather than tracing outlines. it helped me heaps

    I'm not sure I'd get into PS so early, for two reasons:
    1 - it has an undo button. that thing is EVIL! traditional media are a lot less forgiving and help you learn from your mistakes rather than just undo them without consequences
    2 - it has colour. at this point i reckon it's important for you to get your foundations right - proportions, shapes, volumes, silhouettes, line quality, value. once you got those down, jump back into PS and you'll find it much easier

    that's what my mentor told me when I started drawing, and it worked. so I thought I'd pass it on


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    Good progress! I think it's good you're gonna be using ref to fix up those legs, and keep working on anatomy studies.

    Something I feel with your last post, that's making it a bit weak, is that it seems you're trying to do too many things at once. What I mean is, you're working hard on getting the values right, the drawing, and colour... I think it may be easier for you if you split it down into drawing, values and then colour. So first get a good sketch down ( do a few if possible ), and try to make sure you have a solid drawing. Then add values to that ( using reference of a similar pose turned to grayscale often helps with this ) and try to get it down right. Then at the end when those two things are good, work on getting your colours down.

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    Thanks neon and sycra. Your tips and comments are invaluable. I'm so glad I started a sketchbook here. Ya are all so helpfull, I'd probably be lost if I was in the cold cruel world.

    Atm I'm studying from hogarth, ron tiner and some other dude. I don't post everything because I really cbf'd most days. I have drawing and actual uni study afterall. >.>

    Neon, point taken... atm I spend wayyyy too much time trying to figure things out on photoshop. If I spent that time sketching and studying, I would probably as you say, be better off. I shall postpone it.

    Sycra thanks! Those steps make perfect sense. You really hit the nail on the head, I was trying to do too many things at once. It was messy fun but alas I didn't know what I was doing... kinda like a kid with paints. When I pick up photoshop again, I'll be sure to follow those steps. ^.^

    Tbh though, I just sorta wanted something "finished" for an avvy. I'm getting sick of the jumping cat hehe.

    Oh and mah photographer roomie came in and realised that my screen contrast etc was outta whack. Doh! Luckily he fixed it for me. Hopefully these sketches are now easier to see. Hopefully....... 0.o

    I figured I should upload some of the things I haven't been uploading... an example of a construction study and gestures.

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    I just noticed the lower line is out of whack.. opps.
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    I'll do two sheets of these a day but don't upload them. :3
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    My first attempt at a self-portrait which doesn't really look like me. I stopped when the nose and eye were looking funky. I thought I should put it here for history lol
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    Then some random ppl from a movie.

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    Thanks again.
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    Arvo Dump.

    Pelicanssss

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    Trying to exagurate values to get a better understanding. I dunno why the lead showed up so dark, it doesn't look that dark inrl.

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    When art gives you lemons......... draw one!

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    Lemonfish is not amused...
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    dobermans.

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    Steve suggested I draw..... "bacardiman" So I did. Nothing serious ;D

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    The lines are pissing me off though. q.q I will post "actual" studies tomorrow.
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    Surprise assignments are NOT COOL. >:/

    Anyways I've finally finished the evil psyc assignment. Not many scribbles so far today, just a mind/ref scribble. The studies I just did are embarrasing, probably cause I haven't drawn for a while. I don't think I'll upload them. ^.^" Anyways I figured I should post so here's this thing.

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    Haha and this is what I did when I got home after my assignment. I used "bar" money to buy paints. I know I should work on fundamentals etc but tbh I've been dying to go back to my childhood and mess with paints. (I found a discount art store, this stuff cost like $13aud. They also had a dummy but it was 15... next time I'll buy it.) I pumped some john butler trio and got to it. It's unfinished like everything rofl. Yes, the fish is floating in the sky... My pooor abandoned
    textbooks/floor. It's been defaced. yay. Oh and I'm thinking of having a fish comming out of the trees.... but first I need to study
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    Just a selection of some quick studies at uni and some brain farts/studies today... I need to get choofing again. I think it's time to stay up later. Otherwise I'll go backwards. q.q Anyways, I decided to post everyday so here we go.

    Can't find my camera, decided to use my phone. Failz >.>

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    The bottom two are quick line studies, the top one is my attempt at a figure doing a weird pose............... fail >.<

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    Note to self: I'm going to promise myself to stay up later in order to do more studies. I need to. *kicks self into action*
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    I don't why but I feel as if I'm getting worse. lol. Maybe it's because I'm trying new things? Either that or I'm finding it hard to concentrate on art and uni. I honestly dunno. Anyways here are some of my shotty studies.


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    I did these multiple times in an attempt to understand the process but I still can't get them right. The wedge and mass figure from bridgman makes sense to me but for some reason my masses look funky. I guess it's hand-eye co-ordination, lines etc -_-" I will eventually get this hominoid beast right mind you.

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    Yes I think it is the fact that you are learning new stuff which your not as good as maybe another method. Where are you learning that stuff that is in the last post? I've never seen it before, look kinda cool lol. The bottle guy in the 4th to last post looks pretty sweet. Nothing really for me to crit on. Just keep doing what your doing. Maybe some more still life and keep looking at what your drawing. May the gods bless your pencil (lol...what.. )
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    Your studying of the monsters is so intresting.
    The pencil, but yet the digital picture are very charmed.
    great!
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    Hahah) You`re insane, man! Keep it in! )

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    remind me it is all about the journey, right?!!!

    Hey glad to see you are trying new things out. One of the many things not to forget being an artist is learning to live with the idea it takes a gazillion studies to get it right.

    I do not see you getting worse. I think you are really working toward improvement. I see you are working on Bridgman anatomy..the images remind of the Life Studies book..I might join you as you are drawing the anatomy studies.

    I also have discovered more about PhotoShop. I really had no idea PS had so many possibilities.

    You are very creative in thought processes I think. looking forward to see how you develop

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    I'm glad to see you're doing more animal studies...That will help with your monsters.The anatomy is coming along, especially in the area of construction. My only suggestion is to work on some more life studies. Still lifes,(*Yuck*) , though boring are a good way to practice seeing (seeing is drawing!) Keep up the good stuff!
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    Even though I've been sketching every day I didn't have the time to post. So here are some things...

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    I decided that the fillaments inside the lightbulb looked like a snail.. then I realised that a snail could use it as a spaceship. Lol.... I get distracted too easily. Anyways that's the story behind the stillife. Hehe, I had to photoshop this lil fellow. I messed around with some things.

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    Ty leprachano and chr.steam. ^.^

    Sombertwin, you're right. I shouldn't get like that but I'm sure you're well aware of the monthly moody things us women face. -.-" To much information probably but meh I'm looking forwards to seeing your studies. Viewing other people's studies helps me for some reason.

    Zombifried yah, I tried some today. I can understand how they can help.. seeing things in rl 3d is very different to photographs. I believe I have learnt a lot about light from them too. Ty
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    bridgman is the way to go. just keep practicing. There is already an improvement and it clearly shows you understand a form. Now you only need to stick up with it. Draw, draw, draw...

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