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    Painters aren't famous.

    For a while now I've been asking friends and other people to name a famous, living painter. Then I would ask them to name an average, living rapper. You can guess the results. People don't know any painters, but have no problem with naming moderately successful rappers.

    I realize part of the problem is the nature of both activities - songs are going to be played on the radio, tv, even as soundtrack in movies. Even if you tried to avoid a mainstream song you couldn't. Also rappers are viewed as celebrities and rock stars.

    How could an artist achieve that level of fame? How could paintings achieve the level of exposure that songs have?

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    this is a weird topic... i rather u compare artist... i know that comic book artist with 1/10th the skill of concept "salary" job earners, are way more famous and richer

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    Thomas Kincade. -yes he sucks... but rich and famous he is hmmmmm.

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    Come back in a hundred years and see who's more famous, Lil' Jon or Picasso.

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    yeah painters aren't usually famous until after they die. Because when they die, Business are able to market and exploit them...

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    Salvador Dali's actually pretty famous.

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    I think the art world and the mainstream are separated by a thin line. When it comes to art, people think old-fashioned landscape painters and the Mona Lisa. I haven't once met someone in person who knew Jon Foster or Frazetta...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack the R View Post
    Come back in a hundred years and see who's more famous, Lil' Jon or Picasso.
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    Salvador Dali's actually pretty famous.
    Good job reading the first sentence of my post.

    Thomas Kinkade has his paintings everywhere and might be rich, but not many people actually know his name.

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    It won't happen in the United States.

    You're more likely to find fame in a culture whose past is engrained with art as a normal part of life.

    Europe, Asia, etc., but not the U.S.

    "Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."
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    Quote Originally Posted by OmenSpirits View Post
    It won't happen in the United States.
    Why do you think that is?

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    We go through ages instead of incorporating each aspect of those ages into the core of society.

    The golden age of illustration, the golden age of jazz, etc. we place periods of time, and then move on without truly taking the aspects of those times, and passing it along to the next generation.

    If it's new, shiny, we partake of it, but for only so long as it is en vogue to do so.

    We are inherently a disposable society, but hardly ever retaining what was best of our past, leaving it to history books and those of us who find value.

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    "Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."
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    Makes nostalgia even better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmazon View Post
    Good job reading the first sentence of my post.
    No, I acknowledge that people are more likely to know bad rappers than good currently living artists, but if you step beyond the present it's not likely many rappers will be remembered at all.

    BTW there are plenty of people who know Giger. Not everyone knows his name, but they certainly have seen the Alien. In that sense I'd say he's bigger than any rapper. I doubt if my mother's heard anything by Snoop Doggy Dogg, but she knows the Alien.

    If you go by works there are plenty of visual artists who are bigger than rappers. The problem is that the movie studios don't choose to promote or acknowledge them the way record studios promote their artists. It's bizarre when you think about it. H.R. Giger is practically a franchise unto himself. Why the film industry never picked up on that is beyond me. They'll make a movie for 50 Cent, but they won't make a movie just for the art of H.R. Giger. Ridiculous.

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