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    I say, let the martyr have his satisfaction - unleash the lions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooly ESS View Post
    If portions have been edited out, then by definition it is not possible to have read all of it. Obviously.
    It is if the original post was repeatedly quoted in full in replies.


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    I never thought I'd have to say this out loud, but I'm becoming convinced that at some point, certain subject threads in this forum become less productive, interesting and useful than masturbation....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wooly ESS View Post
    I know that males are more receptive to visual stimulation than females (according to theory anyways).
    It's because males are probably quicker to translate visual input into 'what would it feel like to the touch'. I mean they have to compensate somehow, they only have one sexual sensor and it's tucked away most of the time.

    Females on the other hand are more receptive to physical contact. In fact they are walking sensory gunpowder kegs. Even something as ridiculous as an ear nibble can send a sexual sensation through them, so it's probably even easier for them to get stimulated.

    Erotica and porn while having the same goal (to arouse the viewer), achieve that goal differently. The arousal behind porn comes from watching and identifying directly with what's going on. Arousal behind erotica is prompted more so by the imagination.
    And i'd say imagination on many levels is more potent of a stimulator than any visual or physical contact.

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    Oh wow... I'm a Christian, a rather radical one, as well, but I'll stay out of this. I can't believe some of you guys, especially the original poster. Why can't stuff be discussed nowdays without name calling, stereotyping, and taking it personal?

    And you, xzacto, could've made a thread about the existence of pornography and what people think about it. The world isn't Christian, so we can't just push our standards on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilon View Post
    Does anyone know any very good sexual painting artist .... I dont mean erotic of course , but sexual.

    Are they any ?

    There seems to be a huge gap between pronography and erotic art.... at least as far as I have searched or googled.

    Any link will be greatly appreciated.
    I am new here. I really wish not to offend, either on this topic or the portrait in anyway. But do you mean something like this? JONATHAN YEO (google for more info if you wish to know more) - A portrait artist and he made this portrait out of adult magazines....

    Would you consider this sexual?

    I really don't mean offence to anyone. So dont take this that way please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madsen View Post
    I am new here. I really wish not to offend, either on this topic or the portrait in anyway. But do you mean something like this? JONATHAN YEO (google for more info if you wish to know more) - A portrait artist and he made this portrait out of adult magazines....

    Would you consider this sexual?

    I really don't mean offence to anyone. So dont take this that way please.
    hahaha

    very clever, it took me some time to realize what was so unique about this piece.

    Yup I would surely call this sexual art .... and since I dont like Bush, I love this piece of true art... thanks, you made my day. And the rest of his art in his website is very good.

    So you think , that you are a noob ? Wait till you see my sketchbook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kilon View Post
    hahaha

    very clever, it took me some time to realize what was so unique about this piece.

    Yup I would surely call this sexual art .... and since I dont like Bush, I love this piece of true art... thanks, you made my day. And the rest of his art in his website is very good.
    Yes, I too like Yeo's work. He can be very controversial. His paintings are very gooood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xzacto View Post
    I don't mean to make waves, Just feel like opening up a discussion for anyone who has an opinion.

    EDIT: apparently I just put too much information about this. just going to leave it open.

    ARE Sexual limits being pushed within the art community? in what ways? Does it Matter?
    By "the art community" you mean this forum, and not every visual aritist in the world? If not, the question is unanswerable so I'll assume you do. (English is my second language, some assumptions are unavoidable).

    If by "the art community" you mean CA then answer is simple. No. There is nothing (apart from quality, that is) on this site you couldnt find in mainstream media.

    Since the answer to the first question is negative, the two next ones are unanswearable.

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    I thought your message was sweet--I've wondered sometimes [about lots of things] "is there a place for me here?" Or, "how much does it matter that I feel like a complete outsider?" Well, that was the part of your question that interested me. At least, I think that was what you were asking.

    About the rest--um no, I don't think art has gotten a lot more lewd lately. Or if it has, then my art history profs in college were total lying pervs!

    [No, just kidding, I don't want to soft pedal that. I spent some summers in grad school reading Renaissance original latin and italian and english tracts and, if anything, my undergrad teachers glossed over some awesomely salacious material. I think sex in art is for keeps. Ditto with pervy-ness wherever there are a lot of dudes: among sailors, soldiers, mechanics, investment bankers, corporate lawyers...]

    So anyway of course there's a place for you, wherever you want that to be. Of course there is.

    I tried to think of some examples for argument's sake of earnestly Christian artists who don't ever "push sex" if not "sexual limits"--geez it's not easy! At least, not off the top of my head. Stanley Spencer? Um, wait no--there are some very terrifying nudes of his nutty lesbian mistress... William Blake? Nevermind.

    I googled around for you and found a super-Christian super-young artist who's been successful painting still lifes (no nudity there, natch) in the middle-of-nowhere California. He was even homeschooled. And he's never been to art school. How much more of an art world outsider could he be? That's the new REAL Outsider Art movement: Outsider Art Christians! (vs the Outsider Art that comes from artists in LA with MFAs--which, yeah, I dig). So, you're not the only Christian outsider. Now go get 'em! Shapes and colors!

    I read abt him here: http://www.artistdaily.com/blogs/fea...-the-odds.aspx
    Here is his website: http://danielkeysfineart.com/about

    Also, here is one thing I WISH were more sexy: life drawing class with nude models. Is there anything less erotic? It's always too early in the morning to be drawing some old guy with boobs and a wispy ponytail. Not a turn-on.

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    Yeah - life drawing is not a sexy thing - your brain has to switch into study mode instead of appreciation mode. Same thing happens when looking through soft-core for poses - very much not erotic - until maybe one catches your eye then you can feel the gears switch - it's weird.

    I checked that kid,s website...so not self-taught. He's a Richard Schmid clone to the nines. That was clear from the start then I read his bio...I always thinks that's a shame - he's not the only one of course.

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    I am a glass of coca-cola....and while my body may be fully sensual....moist...little... white Sunday school wearing cheerleader skirt. i am hard on the outside a full bottle so to speak. when the rain comes down i weep! did that get you hot?///??
    ???? was it pornographic??? well now we can exchange words. hot darkness the quiete death over came me. we got of the boat but suddenly lostt at sea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    Yeah - life drawing is not a sexy thing ...
    This may be true for you, for me it depends on who I'm drawing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReneeLarson View Post

    Also, here is one thing I WISH were more sexy: life drawing class with nude models. Is there anything less erotic? It's always too early in the morning to be drawing some old guy with boobs and a wispy ponytail. Not a turn-on.
    I like having attractive models, but for the sake of the models I think it's better off being "less sexy" in general. I've seen some serious creepers in some of my art classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reign View Post
    If by "the art community" you mean CA then answer is simple. No. There is nothing (apart from quality, that is) on this site you couldnt find in mainstream media.
    You obviously haven't done a thorough search of the sketchbook section. There's some hardcore messed up stuff in there.

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    your all dead now... i just shot you with my laser geeck ray!!!!!!shut the f up! how about this for a new topic....this is an art site DRAWorDIE!!!!!!!
    if images you view here our offensive simply click on the I AM NOT 18-yrs or older button.wait there isn't one -fornication-Under-Consent-of King! actually wait images of naked women turns you on.....i get it...hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Listen View Post
    You obviously haven't done a thorough search of the sketchbook section. There's some hardcore messed up stuff in there.
    Guilty.



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    I think the line is to vague to call on artistic sexualism...I mean, there's sensuality, sexuality, then pornographic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    Yeah - life drawing is not a sexy thing - your brain has to switch into study mode instead of appreciation mode.


    Yeah, if you're attending a life drawing class right after spending yourself on your wife, girfriend or whatever, at which point all women can spontaniously combust for all you care.

    We once had some young vietnamese dancer model who could contort herself into poses i have never freakin seen a human do before and with nipples so hard and pointy she could cut glass.. For about 60% of dudes in class including me, there was far more observation than actual drawing. And to make it wurst she was an exhibitionist at heart, and the more she noticed us stare, the more provocative she got.

    Life drawing is not sexy, the model deffinetly was. And it's not our brain that did the 'appreciating' at that point, unless one conciders thinking about all the nasty stuff he'd do to her as 'apreciation'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_jos View Post
    Yesterday I watched a movie about two guys who fell in love with each other.
    I have no doubt many 'strong christian' people would rather not watch this movie. But when I look at such a movie I see love, not two people who sin.

    Why do you have difficulty looking at some of the stuff 'here'?
    Because of what's really there or because of the image you have in your head?

    What you see in those drawings is line, tone, value. Your mind makes this into a mix that reads 'seductress image'. And is troubled with this.
    Just look at it for what those drawings really are.
    It's your mind that creates the seduction, not the image itself!
    It's True, however it's not uncommon for those who practice religion to be repressed to the point of feeling guilt when shown things that are completely natural. It's true that sex sells, however it sells to those who want nothing but that. When you're told that you shouldn't do something, or that something is bad, you're always going to have trouble exposing yourself to it, whether you've had experience with it or not. This might explain the "difficulty". There are millions of theories however lol.

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