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    Sid's fine art studies

    I'm about 7 hours in to my first Bargue drawing, which is going a lot faster than I thought it would. We've already had several assignments in school (AAU) where we had to make extremely accurate copies of photos in charcoal, and that was using comparative measuring, so it's probably why this is going quickly. There are still some measuring problems I can see in the photo, so I'll need to fix them in the next sitting.

    I've also posted a few of my studies from the last semester.

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    The paintings are fine!

    But the Bargue is a bit off - can you see it? If you can´t see it, I would recommend to do another Bargue. If you can see it, then leave it as it is. As long as you can see it you can fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoern3000 View Post
    The paintings are fine!

    But the Bargue is a bit off - can you see it? If you can´t see it, I would recommend to do another Bargue. If you can see it, then leave it as it is. As long as you can see it you can fix it.
    Thanks bjoern! Yeah, I do see some measuring errors that I need to fix in the next sitting (I didn't see them until I looked at the photo), but I'd be really grateful if you could point out something I'm missing. Right now I see errors in his left eye, width of the mouth, some parts of the jawline, and I think the width of the forehead is too narrow. I do definitely plan on doing another bargue or two after this one though, but for now i want to get this as perfect as possible!

    Edit: I also just noticed several errors in the hair .
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    Ok, if you want to make it perfect, then you have a lot of work to do.

    What I show you is not all - only what I have seen by taking few views.

    Remember it all is about millimeters. You have rendered to early (but you rendered it well - technically wise).

    You can also lay your drawing over the printout (in Photoshop) and reduce the opacity of the upper (drawing) layer to see where it matches and where not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bjoern3000 View Post
    Ok, if you want to make it perfect, then you have a lot of work to do.

    What I show you is not all - only what I have seen by taking few views.

    Remember it all is about millimeters. You have rendered to early (but you rendered it well - technically wise).

    You can also lay your drawing over the printout (in Photoshop) and reduce the opacity of the upper (drawing) layer to see where it matches and where not.
    Thanks man! Lots to do then, I'll try to fix most of it (depending on what I can erase at this stage). And definitely much more attention to the measuring on the next one . I seriously couldn't even see those errors until you pointed them out, but I guess the Bargues are supposed to train that attention to detail. Thanks again dude, I really appreciate it.
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    In my childhood I loved to do these. I think it trains the eye pretty well - at least it trains eyeballing.
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    Sidharth-
    On the Barque:
    Depending on your paper density just try putting the 2 images over each other
    and hold them up to a window in daylight that will show you how far you are off
    on your copy. Not wanting to be to critical- your image looks like he is on a diet
    compared to the original. He looks rather skinny. Overlaying the images should show
    you that. Barques are tough but well worth it. Your paintings are very nice!

    Good luck and keep posting!!!

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    Nice work Sid - paintings are looking really good! Excellent feedback from Bjoern also on your Bargue - what I noticed was an overall, slightly "skewed to the left" issue and your ears don't drop down quite enough - run a line across the original at the lobes and then do the same on yours.

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    Bjoern, Doug and Jeff, thanks so much for all the helpful feedback so far . I won't be able to get back to the studio till the weekend, but I'll post an update as soon I can.

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    I decided to restart the Agrippa Bargue. Taking it much slower this time and doing a LOT of measuring. I'm also trying to do the measuring by eye before using the tool this time, I didn't realize that was how you're supposed to do... kind of obvious I guess . Anyway, hopefully this is coming along better than the last one. It's about 9 or 10 hours in.

    Edit: Sorry for the distortion in the photo, probably makes it kind of a pain to critique...

    Edit: Just wanted to say yes, the levels are way adjusted so that the lines show up. The reference is nowhere near that dark . I'll probably have another update this weekend, since I cant get to studio before then.

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    Hi Sidharth,

    I guess the picture is so dark because you adjusted it to show the light strokes of your drawing. I hope that your drawing and the reference is not so dark in reality.

    9 or 10 hours should be enough to guarantee that the measuring was exact.
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    Yes I also agree the picture is so dark because you adjusted it to show the light strokes of your drawing. But nice work.Keep it up

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    Sidharth-

    I really like this one so much better. Even at the this stage you seem now to understand
    more of the process involved. Keep up the good work!!

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    You are doing much better this time around. Here's an overlay with a few places to look out for:
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    most of it is just a matter of line width. great improvement.
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    Some progress on the Bargue. Some of the measuring seems to have been messed up while working on the tones, so I'll go back and fix those next time.

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    I don't have a picture of the Bargue right now, but will take one soon. In the meantime, here's a 3 hour figure drawing, and the beginnings of a cast drawing that a friend of mine in the studio and I have started. We'll probably end up scrapping it, since next week we're having a private lesson with Andrew Ameral so he can show us how to properly set up a sight size.

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    great progress in the brague. Some mistake i notice is the 3 lump on the top of the hair is too right. Compare them with the hair fringe at the hair line and u will see it.

    Loving ur long pose drawing. Remind me of drawing done by Henry yan. Are u taking in class?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mydrako View Post
    great progress in the brague. Some mistake i notice is the 3 lump on the top of the hair is too right. Compare them with the hair fringe at the hair line and u will see it.

    Loving ur long pose drawing. Remind me of drawing done by Henry yan. Are u taking in class?
    Thanks, Mydrako! I do see the problems in the hair now, thanks for pointing them out! Glad to know you like my figure drawing. I haven't taken any classes Henry Yan, but he does teach at my school and I love his work.

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    Nice Sid! That three hour rocks - only notes I see are the cast shadow from face/head a little jarring/angular - also her right arm inner forearm muscle (flexo digitorum sublimus - hey look at me with the anatomical names and stuff!) looks a little "bulgey" but may in fact be due to resting on chair. Easy enough to correct by bringing up that shadow (I mean if you even wanted too).
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    Hey sid! nice stuff dude..about your bargue..your making the nose just a tinyyyy bit too long, its throwing off the ears that people are talking about, see? Nice figure stuff as well keep going! and take Henry Yan's class if you can, he's awesome.
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    JeffX99: Thanks man! I'll keep my eyes open for the arm thing in the next drawing.

    LumoGraphite: Thanks! And thanks for pointing out the nose problem, I'll work on that.

    Here's today's figure study in oils. I also figured I'd post some the landscapes I've been doing for class, and the progress on the cast drawing.

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    Progress on the cast drawing. I can't wait to finish this one- this Saturday a friend and I had a private workshop with Andrew Ameral at his studio, and he showed us how to properly set up a sight-size and what tools to use. We also learned a lot about his experience at the Florence Academy of Art, and the differences between their work and the Angel Academy's.

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    aaaah, man it is soo good to see someone training so careful
    always an inspiration.
    your paintings are brilliant, and I´m hooked to see where the ecorché bust study is heading hehe

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    Sweet stuff, definitely inspiring me to start working on life drawing more. That Bargue drawing was really nice, and the cast drawing is coming along great. Keep up the excellent work!

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    Darkside and Jeremy, thanks so much! There'll be more on the bust soon.

    For now, here's a drapery study, 2 landscapes, and this week's figure painting, which did not go very well and actually looks quite muddy in real life.

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    Progress on the cast drawing.

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    Well, this one's done. I really worked FAR too small for charcoal on this one, so I'm not taking it any further (It's maybe 15 inches tall). The next one, which will be properly set up in my studio, will be in graphite so it'll probably be tighter, take longer, and I'll occasionally be getting Andrew Ameral's feedback on it, so it'll probably be more polished than this one. Was a fun experience though- really trains the eyes!

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    New figure drawing!

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    heyyy nice cast drawings!
    thanks for the add on facebook
    you have some pretty nice studys here, makes me want to paint

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    r y a n o i r: Thanks! As for the painting, go for it!

    Here's a lot of stuff.

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