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    Derpbook (please critique!)

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    Howdy! Okay, so, I really liked the shading in these pictures. The muscle tone is also very well drawn but there's just a couple things that seem off with the anatomy. In both of the pictures, the necks seem just a bit too long and the muscles and tendons don't really seem to flow as well as they should. In the top one, the trapezius is a little lopsided. It seems to bulge out just a little. Same with the area bellow the shoulders. The right forearm has a tiny unnatural curve to it. The buttox looks a little too low...as far as where the cleavage starts. Lastly, the legs are a little too thick for how thin the arms are. Int the second picture, her chin looks a little smashed, but that might just be her face type. The collar bone doesn't really round off in the middle, it's just draped across the front of her. The muscle between her neck and shoulder blade is a bit too big. her upper arm also curves in an unnatural way. Her torso feels a little too long...either that or her breasts are to high up. I realize she's pushing up on them with her forearms, but it looks a little confusing. lastly, the bulge on her wrist is a bit to big. Great job on the hands though. they look great.

    I also realize that I am neither studying art nor a professional artist, but I would still like to voice my opinion. Sorry if it sounds too nitpicky coming from me. ^^;

    P.S. Sorry it's so long...

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    Wow, uh, thanks! *tries to process*
    ...I'll put that into consideration. XD

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    nice start!

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    Thanks, struve!

    Here's another one~

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    Dude.

    So it's been like forever since I last posted on here...
    I've been too intimidated, even though I've posted in the past. But basically, Deviantart has really pissed me off because of how everyone just gives asspats and never critiques ANYTHING, so I'm just like screw it I'll update my sketchbook and let people destroy me, because I seriously need to get better. Haha.
    I'll post some studies and gesture drawing things later, these just happen to already be on my computer

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    Yeah...
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    Post-apocalypic nurse... lady...
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    There she is again!!!
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    some unfinished drawing... not sure where it ended up...
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    Ah! she's back!
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    lame picture of someone with a broken spine apperantly.
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    I drew this because I was mad at someone. SO MATURE, GUYS. It was better than punching them, though.

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    Okay, I scanned some of the studies.
    I darkened them a little.

    ALSO, can anyone tell me how I can change my thread's thumbnail? I can't figure this stuff out... :/

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    I like your cross hatching, it really adds a unique look to your work. Keep at it, looking forward to seeing more from you.

    Oh about the thumbnail, I put one picture in my first post ensuring it was the one that showed up on the forum listing... I dunno if you can choose between multiple pics...

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    Looking good! Keep up the studies

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    You're using the attachment manager right? upload the picture you want as your new thumbnail to post #1 and then click on the paperclip icon. It'll show a list of the uploaded pictures, attach the one you want. You might have to delete the other pictures from your post, just put them up on post #2 if you want.

    I'm liking the hatching too, it'll be nice to see where your style goes. Really nice marker stuff too.
    It looks to me like your figure studies are focusing too much on the 2D shape and contours of the figures, try to focus on the mass and anatomy. Visualizing the rib cage and pelvis as solid blocks and building up the drawing from them is a nice way to start. You might want to try some ecorche drawings, just draw what you think the muscles and bone would look like under the skin. Are you using any anatomy books or resources? Loomis, Michael Hampton's, or Glen Vilppu's figure drawing books would be good resources if you're looking.
    Best of luck, keep posting!

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    THANK YOU for the comments!!!
    @Vertical: yeah, for sure, I definitely have difficulties with those things... and as far as books go, I have some Loomis books as pdf's on this computer... I've kinda read them.... but I mostly look at the pictures... :/ haha

    Also, yeah, I use the manager. I just shoved one of my doodles in the first post so it'll show up as the thumbnail

    Anyway, I did some more studies and tried to give them more mass and imagine blocks like you said!! I think I'm starting to grasp it but there's definitely more work that needs to be done...
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    This one is just an unrelated study.. I think I drew it before the ones above:
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    These ones weren't from observation...
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    I forgot to add these ones too!!

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    I was doodling... blehh -_-

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    more doodles... not paying attention to whatever class I was in...

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    On an unrelated note, here is a space girl and a druid-type lady.

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    Heey! =) Your work improved quite a bit in your last post, think you have worked on your drawings =) Think maybe necks are jus a bit long in your last girlies =) Hope you don't mind that feedback and it helps =) Good luck with your next study =)

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    Thank you!!!!!
    And ugh I know seriously... I have this weird issue with necks.... :/

    so yeah I've been pretty lazy but here's a watercolor..
    I really have to get over this obsession with the nurse lady...
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    I will get back to studies in my next update for sure >.<

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    did like 3 more but I can't find them at all for some reason. ugh

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    figured I would post some random doodles too...
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    I draw this little character of myself... yeah... HORNED RABBIT

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    I also like to draw her as a monster. BWAH!!

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    c:<
    The little cat guy is unrelated.. haha

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    Also did some more serious things too.. Most of these are from imagination

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    I actually did this a long time ago.. I plan to color it but I want to save the lineart... I LIKE HER EYEBROWS!!

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    Also did this a long time ago... it's... blehhh.

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    It's kinda cute I guess...

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    marker doodles
    sketching in marker is very intimidating! @_@

    Also, loomis thingies:
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    A little perspective doodle I did during some random class... this is also pretty old...
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    AND FINALLY....
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    SPHERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Bump post pretty much...
    please comment and critique... I could really use it...
    old old pictures from imagination

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    more old works

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    Hey there. I like the direction you're going, you seem to be on a good path.

    You've already made one of the best choices of your potential career (IMO) by involving yourself in conceptart.org. Complacency is the womb of mediocrity as Jason Manley said it, and hopefully CA can keep you hungry and motivated. Even though as the membership grows the ratio of professionals per user goes down, it's still one of the most useful online resources for a budding artist.

    Your studies look nice, keep doing those! I was never really that into studies, and my progress has been slow because of it. They can really speed up your artistic growth (as I have seen them do for others). I don't know how much older the pictures you say are "old" are, but it seems to me that you've shown definite improvement since then. Actually I especially like the last picture in post #18, despite the anatomy being worse than many of your other drawings, it reminds me of my own work from not too long ago. I really enjoy the attitude and style in it.

    May I suggest you try to get into a SSG (Sketchbook Support Group)? Essentially you band together with other CA.orgians to visit each other's sketchbooks and leave crits on a regular basis. It can be a more reliable way of getting crits, plus you get to know other artists. There is strength in numbers. There's a thread for it here: http://conceptart.org/forums/showthr...=42234&page=46

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    I really have to get over this obsession with the nurse lady...
    It's good to have some art companions. Either you draw them until you're so sick of 'em you forget them, or they can be sort of a safe haven; something to fall back on when you're lacking inspiration or you're in a slump. Although it's good to diversify, it's also important to indulge in your favorite themes now and again. After all, the most important thing is to have fun. If you're not having fun doing art, why do it at all right?

    Good luck and have fun

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    hey, you got some really nice designs going on here, i like your nurse character alot!
    looking good so far, keep it up!

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    @Hai: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMMENTING!!! haha
    I was starting to feel really lonely here!
    Yeah, I will do more studies for sure :3 I'll probably update again later today with some. And thanks about that picture!
    About the Sketchbook group, that sounds like a good idea! I am pretty timid when it comes to critiquing other people, though... I just don't think I really am at the point where I know what I'm talking about... lol

    @rumpenstiltzkin: THANK YOU TOO!!!!

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    Liking your line quality on those life drawings! Keep up the awesome work

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    @ChrisKlungerbo: THANK YOU!!! I'm really glad you decided to comment again!

    As for my update, I've just got some sketches from imagination...
    I have several complaints about these, but I was getting tired of trying to fix them (sooo much erasing...) that I'll just dump 'em here haha

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    ^This one doesn't bother me AS much as the others, primarily because this is a WIP that I plan to do more with in the future when I get a tablet again...

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    ^Yeah.. I don't have much to say about this one. I tilted it a little because I felt it had some balance issues, not sure if it still looks unbalanced really

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    ^THIS ONE. THIS ONE CAUSED ME SO MANY PROBLEMS. It still looks really conflicted but I just got too sick or reworking it. My main issue is that it looks as though her feet are on a different plane from her upper half, so it makes that area look really flat (including the wings)
    I just... bleeehhhh

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    ^oh no!!! I was mostly just doing this as a gesture drawing that I started with a loomis skeleton... but I am still unhappy about her lower half... :/

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    ^Lol yeah. I just figured I'd leave this here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shizmoo View Post
    @Hai: About the Sketchbook group, that sounds like a good idea! I am pretty timid when it comes to critiquing other people, though... I just don't think I really am at the point where I know what I'm talking about... lol
    Don't worry about it. I suppose it's a bit of an artistic trait to be a little shy, and I'm all too familiar with being uncomfortable giving critiques to others because of insecurity about one's own work. Thing is though, you're still part of the real world, so you know quite a bit about how things are supposed to look. And as an artist, even if you've just started out on your artistic journey, you're already starting to scrutinize the world a bit more than others (or you should ). What's more, even though your skill level might not be at the point where you can realize your visions just the way you see them in your head, your taste is still good. That comes from watching art that you like (and don't like), not training your technical skill.

    In a SSG setting, you shouldn't feel bad if you can't critique all the time. The group is also about encouragement. So you all encourage each other, say what you like about a picture if that's easier than pointing out what's wrong, and every once in a while you might see something you can critique, and it's like a bonus. As time passes, you'll get better, and you'll be able to critique more. One thing that you should always keep in mind is that CA.org is a place where people come to get better, and to do that they need critique. They expect it. If you find something to point out, don't be afraid to do that, no matter how much better than you they are - 'cause even if they are, they still might have overlooked it.

    The important thing is to contribute your critiques in a friendly, non-aggressive way. People will listen to you if you're friendly, and might ignore you if you piss them off. On CA.org, people will take critique gracefully, so long as you deliver it gracefully (and if they don't, it's their problem, not yours). Sometimes you might get a bad reaction to your crit, but don't let that deter you. You have to filter for yourself what you pay attention to and what you ignore, so let the good experiences encourage you and don't let the bad drag you down (or even use them to motivate yourself to do better). The same goes for critiques on your own work. You have to decide for yourself what crits you listen to, and what crits you don't agree with.

    Alright, this is getting long so I'll just say one more thing. What comes around, goes around. This is so true for CA.org. If you're an active member of the community, you visit other people's sketchbooks, you leave critiques and contribute - I promise you that will come back to you in a good way.

    Sorry for the wall of text, I think I'm done now I'll just recap with: Don't be afraid to critique if you have a legitimate complaint about a work - people expect it. And when you do choose to say something, say it in a way that you'd want others to say it when critiquing your work.

    Cool update!

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    Man, thanks Hai for the thoughtful responses!
    I haven't been on in a long time! D:> I've been so busy with Thanksgiving, finals, and Christmas...
    BUT!
    I FINALLY got a new tablet! I havent done digital art in almost a year because my other one broke... so here is a drawing I did (it's a version of the other rough sketch I posted a while before in the previous post) it's a work in progress right now, but I just had to post something because I've been gone for so long...

    man this really makes me realize how little I know about colors... lol

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    edit: uploaded the one without the ugly palette there

    also, im not gonna keep her face that way, it just looks dumb because I wanted a placeholder there before i work on it more haha

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    http://www.floobynooby.com/ICG/artvalues.html


    I like this tutorial, it helps a lot with many issues of the digital painting realm.

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    Thanks for the link, JFierce!

    Here's an update on the picture:

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    Here's a creature sketch from today:

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    Oh, and my current WIP:

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    It's fan art of Riven from League of Legends. She's pretty coo'

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