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    New PC Rig

    Hey, getting a:

    Xion Vulcan case
    4 GB DDR3 ram
    500 GB harddrive
    GTS 250 geforce videocard

    Any tips, do's and dont's?


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    Your forgetting a few parts....
    Most importantly the motherboard and processor.
    Are you making it yourself? If so, then I would advise shelling out on a more expensive motherboard to make it easier to upgrade. Make sure the chipset matches the processor though..
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    Oh sorry -.-

    AMD AthlonT II X2 250 Black Edition Dual-Core CPU

    Xion Vulcan case

    4 GB DDR3 ram

    500 GB harddrive

    GTS 250 1gb version geforce videocard

    MOTHERBOARD:Asus M4A78LT-M LE AM3, 2xDIMM, DDR3

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    Power Supply Make sure its over 500 watts or better (they do make higher than 500 up to 750 and more ) Because they will be draw in power from the Video card and Rom drives you add. Under powering system can really cause problems later.


    if you add up the wattage up that your video CPU and Drives demand and make sure you have the what will be a bit more. I am upgrading a SLI board with 2 video cards(this is Duel Video card system) I will be upping my Power to make sure that the cards run right. I will also be adding larger drives as well and since i can run SATA and IDE on this board I will have more than just 2 hard drives but also may add things like Blue-ray DVD /Burner as they price makes it affordable Aldo think about air circulation in your case .. the more power on your cards and CPUs the more heat that build up so think about fans and moving air Too much heat and the system slows and down it can go.

    I work on computers for living .. and seeing that some graphic cards are getting up toi 1 gb and higher soon Power Supplies will also go up as will heat.

    The good thing it that Hard drive will demand less power on your new system.

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    AS CC said make sure with that set up you have a 500W+ PSU and that it has a 6 pin vga power cord, or that your card comes with a split molex adapter for this.

    Also that motherboard is a micro ATX, and is a smaller form factor, that does not mean it will not preform as well as a full ATX but because of the size of a gts 250, you may have some of your expansion slots covered, and also your stuck with 4gb of ram, because of 2x dimm slots, and not the 4 slots on mosty full ATX. for future upgrades. Also the placement of the 24pin power input, your cable will go over the RAM slots most likely, not a big thing, but may increase heat, for the RAM.

    There are some nice full atx options for AM3, or even AM2+/AM3 (designed around similar di's so compatible) that are in same price range, and as stated before mobo is the most integral part for making it last/upgrading in the future. ASUS is very reliable brand, same with gigabyte, and a newcomer is the ECS black series mobo's.

    Anyway hope this helps.
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    Oh another thing if the new Motherboard supports DDR3 get it DDR2 is good but I seeing some good things on 3.
    I seeing that Video cards are doing same with the memory..
    the best is to make sure all you memory matches in Buss speed and spend the funds if you can(cheap isn't does not always mean you will get good memory) Kingston has been doing well for me .. Corsair is getting pricey again . but all memory is high right now.
    Oh what OS will you be running? XP pro still the best .. Win 7 (vista lite) better in that line as the turn off a bunch to get it to work with less memory(you don't need gb to run it anymore) but they seem to be pushing 64 bit and I not sure all the graphic programs work in 64bit just yet I do know I am still making list and has issues with PS and Painter. Plus some graphic card 64bit drive are still bit off. update often all if you are in 64 bit.
    I running duel boot system with XP and win7 and I am seeing some vast compatibility issues that will take time with some programs to be patched up.
    I know that my next Laptop will be system with 1GB graphic card and most likely have win7 but only because that.s when they will sell not because I have a choices in that matter now. I beta tested it and I know where to spend the time to fix it.(hm maybe I need to address this in another thread ?)
    You have the making and good advice her from many you should a good kick butt system up and running soon. looking forward to seeing you do some great work on it.

    See ya

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    Do: I would advise investing in a surge protector. My last rig got royally fucked because we had a bunch of power surges a few months back when we were getting a lot of storms and tornados and everything got scrambled, and by everything I mean the hard drive, the processor, the RAM, even the video card. So I got this surge protector battery thing. It's this thing that you plug into the wall and has its own power supply so in the event you lose power or experience a power surge, this thing can keep your computer going for up to an hour, (depending on what you have) or long enough to safely close out of anything so you don't lose any data. And even if you don't have a huge problem with storms and power surges it's still a nice thing to have if not for the novelty of having a working computer when everything else in your house is pitch black

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Edge Ryan View Post
    So I got this surge protector battery thing. It's this thing that you plug into the wall and has its own power supply so in the event you lose power or experience a power surge, this thing can keep your computer going for up to an hour
    That's a UPS, which will have surge protection. If your power is unreliable then they're a good buy. Bulky and extortionately expensive if your kit is heavy duty though. Surge protection is definitely a good idea, for the power and for the router connection.

    To the OP, I'd recommend multiple HDs (OS / data / backup as a minimum) & HD monitoring s/w and backup s/w. I'm using Cobian backup s/w - it's free and very comprehensive, even doing incremental backups. HD monitoring cost me about $20 as I recall - HD Sentinel. I'm often amazed how people can spend £1000s on a PC set-up yet aren't bothered to spend a few minutes and a few £ safeguarding their data.

    I also recommend WD velociraptor disks - not far off solid state in terms of speed and they run really cool. At the moment mine are running 12deg cooler than the standard raptors.

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    I have 4 Velociraptors running RAID striped in pairs, one for OS and apps, the other for scratch and as a temp drive for various other progs. Wasn't too pricey, I just hit online retailers during the recession scare when they dropped prices and were handing out discount codes like crazy. Of course this does no good if bottlenecked by any single component in the system. Cop that Win7 64 and bump that RAM up to 8GB (4GB has quickly become the new 2GB, seriously)if your board can take it and research what a mild overclock can provide. It's an ASUS and with the way AMD is going these days, that Black Edition is definitely OC material. I'm confident you can get good stable results on air cooling alone. One of the previous posts mentioned getting a drive for storage, excellent idea in case your system crashes or has a hardware malfunction on the main drive, but this strategy does not guard against possible theft, natural disaster, or vandalism. I store all my work on a network drive in a remote location with regular hard backups that are also stored in another remote location. We spend hours of our lives pushing a Wacom stylus on a tablet with the result being purely digital, those hours run the risk of going to waste and being lost unless you take these precautions to insure yourself 100% against data loss. If a thief runs up in your spot and rolls out with your gear, he/she doesn't give a damn about your work or your sacrifice, all they care about is the resale to some perv who needs extra storage space to save his third-world child porn collection. So once again here's my contribution to your little checklist there:
    1. Win7 64
    2. 8GB of RAM (what I have noticed is for creative apps, a blazing ram speed isn't really necessary, but quantity of RAM is. A lower speed should be cheaper. Check the FSB on the proc and the mobo, the lowest number is generally what you should shoot for)
    3. Network drive (Ok, I know somebody is gonna say "I use an external USB drive for my backup and storage." Cool, but if you forget and leave it hooked up and the worse happens, that remote network drive will seem like a sweet deal then wouldn't it? I thought so.)

    As a disclaimer, if you overclock your machine into ruin, myself nor anyone on this board will be liable in any way. Do so at your own risk, and if you do, make sure to research your options thoroughly before making that move. You also run the risk of voiding your warranty on overclocked components, keep that in mind. Usually I save such acts for older hardware that I'm trying to squeeze a few more drops out of before I make an upgrade. Just to give you an idea though, one of my machines still gets the job done just fine and then some:
    3.4 GHZ Pentium D (dual core) = 4GHZ
    8GB Patriot DDR2 800mhz = 940Mhz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burhtun View Post
    Wow three velociraptors? $510. A bit too pricey for me.
    Is the third really needed? Couldn't you just use two, with OS, apps, and data on drive 1 and have your art files copied over to drive 2 for backup. $340. Whats the benifit of a third drive?
    I wouldn't say 3 drives are essential by any means but if you can, I'd recommend it. I'm only using 160Gb VRs which can be got for around £110, but I suppose if you've got 100s of Gbs of data then it can become expensive.

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