Team ChoW III - Pirate Ship Lollipop
We are Team
Pirate Ship Lollipop
We are going to rock your socks of and do the best we can to win this team C.H.O.W. And if we do not win at least we will gather a lot of experience and learn stuff from you guys, our visitors, but most of all form us.
So, First things first... Our name?
Some Suggestions that were made.
1)The Pirate Ship Lolly Pop
2)Who Wants Pain?
3)You Die Today!
5)The Donkey Puncher's Guild
7)The Fight'n Winners
8)The Demon Hunters
I like Gods WIP, Pirate Ship Lollypop and the Puppeteers.
Give me your favourite picks, and we'll then choose from those.
Furthermore, maybe present yourself. I know your alterego, but who are you in real life, what do you do, any ideas for the upcoming team chow? Any other stuff? Lets make this thread as comfortable as possible.
Last edited by Janos; January 28th, 2010 at 09:49 AM.
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I don't mean to come off as presumptuous, but I was doing a skull study for my homework and when I heard Pirate ship Lolly Pop was a name you guys liked, I threw that pinkish crimson on. I think if we threw in some lollypops for crossbones and some ship sales, this would be one hell of a flag. There is pleanty of room for collaboration on this one.
Great first post. Lets get this rolling. Atm I am sitting in a beautiful house at the sea, and I love the idea of pirates. I also like the knocked out teeth on our skull, but I would definitely only add teh lollipops. The sails would be too much for me. And I would paint the skull from the front, just keep it basic, though make keep the missing teeth, and maybe try a version without the pupils. And of course the two lollipops, they are a must. Would you like to tr and make a version? Atm i am not able to upload anything, but as soon as I can, I'll be on. If you want ou can send me the image of the skull with the lollipops and I'll finsih it up nice to represent our logo.
Also, DHTenshi. What up? Give us some input! =)
And, here just some infos on me:
I am 20, male, and I live in Germany atm, though as mentioned above, we are stying in Ital over Christmas. I am also half italian and half polish, but I grew up in Germany so I have got all of my friends there. I have been drwing since about 4 or five, and I have always been interested in Illustration. ATM I am prparing to get accepted at anacademy here in germany, so I am doing 3 or 4 Portfolios. It is a very hard job to do, but CA keeps me sane at times and gives me input onb stuff that might not be the most academical subjects. I really admire a lot of artists on here, and I am working on developing my Photoshop and generally digital skills. I would one day love to work as a freelance illustrator, for children books, general bookcovers and Fantas/siFi stuff like for WOtC or other companies. I do think that a traditional learning of my subject, in the academy might help me develop a special style. And I really want to kick ass in this team chow, so bring on the 26! I do have to say though, that I am going to get home the earliest on the 4 of January, so till then its just sketching and no showing for me.
Now to you guys!
This is just a test run for the logo, just one direction I'm exploring. Janos send me your email in a pm so I can send you the full resolution psd.
I agree with the dis-inclusion of the sails. I played around with working them into the comp last night and I realized it was going to be a pain in the asshole.
Let's keep the color Pallet limited to cream, hot pink, brown and warm black. I'm going to work on more design options.
Last edited by Raoul Duke; December 21st, 2009 at 06:21 PM.
My name is actually Kirk McCosker and I am 27 years young. I live in the San Diego area. My hobbies include coffee, cigarettes, fine Kentucky Bourbon and fighting the forces of evil. I am currently a student at Studio 2nd Street. My biggest influences are Bill Seinkiewicz, Ashley Wood, Dean Cornwell and I could list dozens of others.
here's another design option. Once again just a starting point.
Hey guys! I'm back!, just saying that for now lol, I'm gonna post some sketchbook pages in a little while, just to let you know I'm alive and I am gonna work hard with you guys =)
Gonna upload in a while then, ok?
Raoul Duke, man, that looks really good, you seem to be working hard already that's amazing! Love the warm feel, so, we are lollipop pirates now? lol
So, I am DHTenshi, male, 19 years old, mexican.
Err, I really like watching anime, manga, and like to surf on the web, looking to other people's art.
I just left graphic design and animation career to join the fine arts school here in my town...
What else? dunno, just gonna post some sketchbook pages I made on a vacations trip
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Amazing stuff you guys are posting. I am gonna try and add some stuff too soon.
I love your sketches DH and how confident you seem to be with faces and anatomy generally. Keep on with that and these will look amazing in our team chow designs.... 4 days to go guys.
Raoul, I send you my email adress. As I mentioned before, I'd dig a front view skull even more, but the lollipops are spot one. I'll try and get to my brotehrs laptop later which has got photoshop so that I can play around with your design.
Pirate Ship Lollipop, over
EDIT: So here is something I came up with. The problem is that I do not have a tablet here in ital, so it basically looks like crap. But you guys, especially you raoul with our own style, couls really make a great logo. I actually also kind of like the mirrored image (i did it because I didn't have a choice) but if you could try to sketch one up in your style, in this design, it would look awesome. Also my brither gave me another idea, that we could loose the two lollipops behind the skull, and instead just put two lollipops in its eyes (there kinda are two in its eyes now, but we could add sticks to the eye lollipops. I'll post some vector stuff later on.
Last edited by Janos; December 22nd, 2009 at 08:41 AM.
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@ DHTenshi: Do you draw from ref? I realy like your sketches, but one thing I think might really benefit them, is if you try to change up your faces. That is a probelm I have as well. We should reall tr to learn from Raoul who has some nice expressive faces and try to make our character designs very individual, but of course fitting all together.
Also, how aboput thinking about a general style. What direction shall we go in. How shall we divide work? All that kind of stuff!
How's about I work on the gestural abstraction. Teneshi tightens up the shapes and brings in the more subtle values and Jonos you bring in the the final touches.
Originally Posted by Janos
DH-How are you with vectors? You said you were a graphic designer, can we see some logo work or vector drawings you are particularly proud of? Maybe we could create a waving Pirate flag as an animated giff. If your up to it.
Yeah that sounds really good.
One thing that would be awesome if we make it a full on collaboration. So all three of us work on every single character. Sketching is of course a must for all of us. So if there are six characters we could just start sketching our initial ideas for all of them and then when we realise whose strenghts lie where we divide the character concept design, so the clothes weapons and so forth, to one artist. DH gets two, Raoul you get two, and I get two.
We sketch our ideas for pose and face as well, but we leave it to you Raoul to bring your awesome style to every figure. As you said your gestural abstraction is really a thing we should use to our advantage. We should try to keep a congruent cloth/weapon/ornament style, too. And keep in mind that the character should in the end fit into a nice pretty Diorama, so pose/lighting of the individual should be realistic to their later position.
Then me and DH could apply the digital colouring (I think its best if I help DH in this part, or I could just start the basic colouring and DH, you could then tighten it up.)
Finally we decide how to arrange them in the panorama picture and then bring them into the final image, and I could merge them together with their surrounding, which won't be the hardest job, if the second phase of our plan goes well.
Raoul as you would be needed most in the early stages you might want to start "networking" later on if you know what I mean? Check out our competitiors, try to get people to visit our thread and of course give us advice on how we are proceeding. This division should only be very basic though. We post all our efforts here andlisten to one another and discuss if there is a problem.
Basically we all work through the whole of January, but each of us harder or less hard at a certain time. And if one of us has probelms of finding the needed time he should definitel tell usbeforehand, so that we can plan around tight schedules.
Actually I might wip up a schedule and ask what you guys think about it, cause my warble further up might have been complete bollocks to you.
So anyways, what do you think of the idea of work division yet all of us working together on all of the characters?
PS: Some more aspects of Janos. My real name is Jonnie, I've got a Dog, I listen to lots of Music, mostly and maybe quite shockingly to some of you to british Pop and Electropop music (Little Boots, La Roux, Florence and the Machine and many more). I do like my Strokes-CDs though... I also am studying Korean at the moment, but I hope to get into a academy next year.
PPS: I have looked at your blog and sketchbook again Raoul and while I think that you capture movement very well I think proportion wise DH and me should give a little input so that the characters keep the movement of your more cartoony characters yet general they have a more realistic appearance.
PPS: The Vector skull was omsthing my brother came up with to make it readable and simple. DH, would you feel like picking it up form there and maybe polish it a little?
Okay, thats enough for now.
Last edited by Janos; December 22nd, 2009 at 03:19 PM.
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First of all! please have patience with me! I don't know a lot of terms you used to describe some things of art (gestural abstraction, Diorama) and also, I'm good at english, but it isn't my mother tongue, so, please be patient =)
Thanks Janos, I love to draw from imagination, but yes, the references are always needed, even if sometimes it's boring
Good to see you working Janos! I think that design with Raoul's style would really look great! hope to see it soon
Raoul, actually, I got no experience on vectors, I just started at that career this semester and left because I made a wrong decision, and never got to use vectors, it was pure boring theory, and very simple.
So, let me see if i get the idea, everyone sketches the character ideas yes... then, raoul is gonna do the gestural work, as he applies good movement to them, then, we'll check out the anatomy and proportions, then he's gonna do the lines or janos or me? and after that we'll do the painting? I think i got good rendering, but not so good structure, and I believe that's what I do best right now
I'll be checking out the user cp so I can know if there are any news, thanks for adding me to you gmail janos, I'm gonna send a pm to raoul so i can give my email and he can give me his.
I can't wait to know the theme of this!
Also, Janos, if you can, put some awesome photos from there, it would be awesome
c ya guys!
WIth gestural abstraction I think Raoul ment that he can depict movement in a pose quite well, which is something that I struggle with for instance. And the Diorama I meant was the image in which we could put all the characters we create, to present them as a group.
Your rendering is probably the best, so you should do the most important job of colouring, but I'll help you with that of course by adding basoc layers you can then develop the colours from and by maybe retouching stuff you forgot. We are stating the obvious that we want to use digital colouring, but if both of you think traditional is the way to go I am up for that, too. DIgital is easier to develop though.
And here are some fotos for you guys where I'm at atm. I would love to see some of yours as well!
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Oh and, actually I kind of like the simplicity of the vector logo my brother did. How about we use it? We could also change our change our avatars to different views of the skull logo, for the reminder of the Chow, so that we are recognised and built some kind of attention. We've got some pretty competitive and to say the truth amazing artist groupings to fight against, so we might as well give it all we got.
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