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A very appropriate topic - been dabbling with Tarot recently.
I like our cards and can't wait to get started I've had a look at the meanings and if we were to take that as a team reading -its pretty good, just need to be wary of the feeling over whelmed ( 9 swords) or having too much choice and being self indulgent ( 7 cups)
Last edited by Clockwork Bunny; December 27th, 2009 at 05:30 PM.
Ok so what we need to sort out.. I've been talking with MG and I came up with a to do list which I need your input on.
1. Over all style - Scott M Fischer has been put forward as a style we think would be pretty cool and push us on the challenge. Are we happy with this?
2 - Who's doing which card - We have:
The Wheel of Fortune
3 of Wands
9 of Swords
7 of Cups
Knight of Cups
Queen of Pentacles
I'd like to claim The Sun & the Knight of Cups if no-one objects.
3 - Boarders and Fonts - We should have one boarder and fonts style to tie all cards together, this we need to discuss.
I know we still have New Year to come but anything before the challenge begins to help us co-ordinate better can be done before then so we can use the challenge time purely on the cards themselves.
1: scott m fischer's graphic bg +char is only a start as far as style is concerned imo, we have much to discuss. but 3/4 have said they liked it so i think we're good on that bit
2: not particularly bothered with what i get but my mild preference is for emperor and 9 of swords
and 3: borders and fonts might not even be needed, since daestwen mentioned possibly printing a set i think there will be one done separately outside of the comp entries.
also we need to think of something in the way of story/flavour.
had a thought for the story line for flavour, what about changeling as a theme?
Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere is based on the changeing's world within worlds.
There was also a White Wolf RP game Changeling the dreaming
twisted fantasy with dark and sinister elements.
from this I would use a Sidhe - the nobility, Lords and Ladies, elves, the Shining Host. The dream of all that is noble and honourable in leaders, but also the arrogance of many leaders for the sun
and a Satyr - lovers and revelers, horned god, Pan. Formed from the deep passions and lusts of mortals for the knight
Last edited by Clockwork Bunny; January 1st, 2010 at 05:40 PM.
Wow, I really need to get with the picture! Apologies to you guys for being a little more than slow with communications. I promise this won't be a problem from now on (hopefully).
As far a styles and theme, we should really stay away from any overworked ideas, which means our overall theme should not be something that someone sees and thinks, 'Oh, that's fantasy/ sci-fi/ etc.' This, I believe, especially includes steampunk, which has been used more in the past few years than Lindsay Lohan's toilet and gag reflex. ;-) But seriously, what's going to make these characters interesting is that we've never encountered anything like them at all. That doesn't mean they have to look outrageous and alien, because 'alien' itself is another common topic that should be avoided.
I think what we can do is make a combination of themes, overall "emotions," legends, etc. to make something familiar yet strange. Clockwork Bunny brought up some work by Neil Gaiman and his book, Neverwhere, which I think is a great source to draw from for a mix of realism and mysticism. Gaiman's other stuff works just as well, especially the Sandman series which gives us a cast of 'D' characters that we can identify with and never really understand at the same time. Personally, however, most of Gaiman's work is with known characters and myths, which can get a little boring. In short, I think this project could be really interesting using characters that
1) we can't identify with a genre (fantasy, sci fi, steampunk, etc.,
2) clash themes together (ie, historically we know how to perceive an emperor or what swords were used for, but what do they mean out of context in a contemporary setting: Emperor = corporate executive, 9 of swords = 9 different weapons a housewife might use to kill her husband)
A good idea might be to add some sort of sinister twist. Like if we combine two INCREDIBLY different themes. For example, if we use Fischer's overall creepiness and generally 'dirty' composition with pleasant pin-up/ 50's advertisement themes.
Anyway, there are still plenty of things to discuss but at least we can start putting stuff down on a canvas. It makes no real difference to me which cards I do -- I think they're all very interesting and it's the style we do them in that's going to be the most fun. :-)
Below are a few references I gathered together. I hope I'm allowed to post them as long as I state they aren't my own work...? Mostly Mucha, Amano, and Klimt..
very interesting posts and i agree with a lot of it, but what say you people to a daily meeting on skype (or any other im you all want to use)? not sure if you got the message since i've been away a few days. real time conversation would save time.
Ok, so just read the backlog from skype. There were some good ideas passed around. I think we definitely should find some sort of paintchat so we can all put our ideas down in both words and images at once, but we'll definitely need a specified time to gather. School and work starts for me tomorrow, so pretty much every day I don't get out of work/ school until 6-ish over here, which makes an ungodly hour in the morning for everyone else.. :-( I'll sneak on when I can during work in the morning for me, but I think most of our time together is going to have to be on weekends. If 7-10 works for you guys, that's about midday I think for me, so that'll work pretty much every weekend.
Also, I really liked the zombie-ish theme, but if another team is already doing that, I think the 'dead' theme is different enough to use. Sounds good! Hopefully I'll catch you guys on skype soon! :-D
Also, if there's no objections, I'll be taking the 7 of Cups and Wheel of Fortune.
Oh, meant to post this, too -- the idea of doing dead characters made me think of the morbid portraits at the Disneyland Haunted Mansion where the figures are calmly facing impending death. Maybe the surroundings of the character could "tell a story" of how they died or how they are about to die.
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I like the ideas flowing here .. I love the 'deathish' theme and the somewhat twisted sick feel, by use of colors and mood/ facial expression. Reminds me abit of Alice in Wonderland/ Dave McKean/ Danny Devito as the Pinguinman in Batman. But then Like Colette says, more original ^^ haha
As for the cards: Is the Queen allready taken? If yes, is the Sun allready taken?
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