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January 7th, 2010 #31
I think a large cow would look great, and they walk at a good funerial pace. You could make the mount look less bulky by zombifying it. Or making it alive but emaciated / close to death. Reinforces the theme and slims the beast down significantly!
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January 7th, 2010 #33
Yeah, that's the stuff. Demonic mounts. Reminds me of...
January 7th, 2010 #34
Well, maybe a little too Doctor
January 8th, 2010 #35
Hehe, he's cool. I like the face and it's a nice sketch.
Are you planning to incorporate the tarot symbols blatently or weave them into the design more subtly? If at all? I think 'feather' 'fish' 'mountains' and some kinda running water all have meanings for the knight. http://www.tarotteachings.com/knight-of-cups.html
January 9th, 2010 #36
January 11th, 2010 #37
Today's offering to kick off a new week. Was thinking creative force with the first one, but the rod / wand looks like a cheap Wacom promo.
January 11th, 2010 #38
Haha, has a bit of that vibe to it. Maybe make what she is holding into something less specific.. or maybe the wacom thing would go down well here! Liking the mood of the second one too
I've just moved back to uni so been a bit hectic the last few days. Pretty much settled in now. Well, my PC is set up anyway
January 12th, 2010 #39
I shall try a different pose and wand design over lunch. It'd be nice if the look of the wand matched your piece ultimately so I'll concentrate on the composition more for now, and getting all the vital symbols in.
Yeah, I figured it was back to the grind for you and you'd be offline for a while. Is a relief when you finally get plugged back into the Matrix, isn't it?
January 12th, 2010 #40
Oh yeah, it was such a relief.. for all of an hour, until the power went off all evening!
My Nine of Wand's wand will probably be more of a staff or weapon, not sure how it'll be styled, but I'm sketching now
January 12th, 2010 #41
Ah, that's cool. I was thinking mine needed to be a Gandalf-style staff, lit up as a torch maybe (as the Ace is to be a guiding force, out of the clouds and into the light, yadda yadda...). Will add more sketches myself as soon as I have them nailed.
January 13th, 2010 #42
Really digging the energy of the first one. Very powerful pose and her fiery hair and dress compliment the composition well! I do agree about the wacom pen. A sage's staff for instance would suit her better. You could have it drawing in energy which would make her a force to be reckoned with!
As for the second piece, I like the feel of it, too. The two images balance each other quiet nicely! Not sure if using yellow for the smoke atop is such a good idea though. It steals attention from the guy
..woah! Just realized that your Ace of Wands looks like her - http://music.blogs.wkbt.com/files/20...by_cahankh.jpg
I had a feeling she resembled someone as soon as I saw the image!
January 13th, 2010 #43
Ah, nice thought. The background of the woman / goddess-type is going to be cloudy to symbolise her bring light and clarity as she steps out of it. If I can create a clearing in a murky sky from which she is drawing light, it should look pretty powerful. The flow is going to continue through the dress, and I'm thinking of wisps and folds in her dress (probably push my ZBrush skills a bit to make it, which will be good for me too!).
Yeah, I take your point on the yellow also. I was (very sketchily) trying to shed a positive light on the 2 remaining cups, whilst having the figure oblivious to them and still destraught over the spilt. Some internal light, falling on them more subtly would be better no doubt.
Ha! A resemblance. Not the pic I used for ref but having read the brief a bit more I think the character should have flaming red hair.
January 13th, 2010 #44
You're going to incorporate Zbrush into the process? Very interesting! Looking forward to seeing how that will turn out.
I started sketching my Devil card, but haven't gotten too far into it. Just been busy with other things that I'd like to get done before classes begin, but should be posting some sketches soooon!
January 13th, 2010 #45
Yes, I'm going to incorporate some 3D into the cards. I plan to bang together some cups / wands in 3ds Max. It'll all have to be integrated and balanced obviously, but I just find it gives a lot of freedom once certain elements are 'built' to repose if necessary. Bit like sketching in a 3d package I guess.
My office is closed due to snow, so this is what I've been working on this morning instead. The 2 shelved cups will be part glass, to show they are full and to add some interested refraction effects. The lighting will be more dramatic, and all 5 chalices will be a different design - again, to add greater visual variety. I've worked in the 'castle' and 'bridge' symbols roughly aswell, these will probably need accentuating (the stone carving and tapestry).
Any thoughts / ideas / critiques appreciated.
January 14th, 2010 #46
Ace of Wands update
Will get this more polished (when I get chance / update my wacom drivers for Windows 7. Grrrr!!!). Am prefering the composition already, just got bogged down with the face / hair this lunchtime.
January 14th, 2010 #47
Great face, great pose!
Nine of Wands sketch - not sure about the clothes yet, want to make her seem out of the same world as your Ace. Will keep sketching
January 14th, 2010 #48
Cool sketch, though my world could bend to your ideas - not sure on the background as yet but I think it's important to get the main card symbols in somewhere. I was even thinking of making the background completely clouded and having the mountain & river as patterns for the flowing clothing. Not sure yet, open to ideas. I was also thinking about the wand / staff. I imagine a blend of traditional fantasy with the sci-fi lance from the Predator comics / films. Your sketch has got me thinking more medieval halberd. Hmmm... any more thoughts?
January 14th, 2010 #49
I can't find much about the Wands other than they're about creation, summer and fire.. the kind of impressive background you have going should work well I think? Something majestic. Maybe have the mountain range composed less centrally, in a kind of V arrangement around the figure if you get what I mean.
The 9 of Wands is a warrior so it might make sense if your ace had a wand of a different design. I was thinking about an elaborate spear or halberd, but not so elaborate as not to be practical.. I imagine yours would be more ceremonial looking and less used for stabbing? haha
January 15th, 2010 #50
I'll have a play with the mountains today. Am liking the inverted 'V' shape idea as a triangular composition always looks stronger, and will push the character forward more.
Good ideas on the wands, also. I think something extravagent and gilded will look more fitting for the Ace. You may find something that inspires you amongst old Japanese spears for the Nine. They certainly knew how to make weapons, and I've seen amazingly ornate katanas / shaolin spades in the past.
January 15th, 2010 #51
Wellll bad news, my hard drive died last night. I ordered another today but when I'll get it and when I'll be set up I can't say. I've got a check disk going on mine right now and it seems rather fucked. It's no big deal though it's not like I'm losing all my recent work including my portfolio I was meant to send to a games company today because it is the deadline or anything like that, oh no!
January 15th, 2010 #52
Argh! That's... pretty shitty!
January 15th, 2010 #53
Ugh totally. My harddrive is in my friends PC and I'veb eena ble to back up everything important which isn't my folio - that;s the only folder that is corrupted it seems :| lost the psds, jpgs and the zip file I had ready to send last night! Wooo. BUT the few sketches i've done for team chow are fine!
also I'm ill and my ice cream melted when our freezer broke
worst day for liz everrr
January 15th, 2010 #54
Jesus... that's as bad as it gets really. Melted Ice cream?! Urgh!
Sorry, not good at being serious when supposed to be. I'm sure you've torn all hair out and are well on the way to making the best of some effin bad-luck. Cannot help, but will hear your pain should you need to rant!
January 15th, 2010 #55
Liz, I sent you an email. Hope you get back online soon!
thegrayslayer, your ace of wands is looking pretty damn awesome! Love her fire hair and well rendered face! Her pose is a bit unsure though. Doesn't make her seem too confident in my opinion, but it's definitely a huge improvement over the last sketch. I think it would look better if you changed the pose to where she confidently grasps the wand. As if she is of a royal descent.
As for the other wasted guy who looks like he lost the love of his life. Not much to critique except he needs clothes, haha. He could possibly come from a noble family too which would make his fashion sense quiet intricate. A hat would suit him perfectly!
This is what I have so far. Got a bit too carried away on the Devil last night, leaving not a lot of time to sketch the other.
Planning on detailing much that bull creature thing to make it look vicious and will add some wear and tear to the reaper's armor. Don't know about the background yet. Thought it would be fun to include the devil there, as if the reaper rode out to finish off that one guy, but the devil already tore his head off...haha, so twisted. Let me know what you both think.
January 16th, 2010 #56
AG, that devil is awesome. So sinister and menacing (lol minister), I love it. I'm really excited to see where your death is going too, looks badass!
Greyslayer: I like your comp, LOVE the hair!! I'm glad I didn't decide to go with fire hair with my wands, hahhaa! She seems like she's lacking a little mass, unless you intended her to be skinny. I feel like she should have more body under that right (our left) boob than she already does...but anyway, I could be wrong. I love it guys!
Team Chow III Presents:
January 17th, 2010 #57
Jeez you guys rock, I'm letting the side down!
I'm pretty much up and running now, gonna get down to business!
January 17th, 2010 #58
January 17th, 2010 #59
She looks great so far. Love the composition and her expression. Worn out, but has high will power to live!
You might want to fix her proportions though. Her head should be bigger thus making the neck shorter and her knee on her left leg has to be positioned higher since it's on the same plane as the other knee of the leg that is more in the foreground.
Also some more details on her clothes wouldn't hurt. Something of this sort could be used as inspiration since she has that chinese warrior feel to her.
January 18th, 2010 #60
AG. Nice start on the Devil, really reminds me of Calibos from the original Clash of the Titans movie. I'm wondering if you could push the bestial a bit more? I mean, have him more haunched over, rather than being so 'straight-up-and-down' (if you take my meaning. Liking the design of him already though. I imagined the bull being larger to carry Death around, can tell already though that the way you light both these pieces could create very powerfully dark cards. Look forward to progress.
Liz. Hope you're well on the way to full recovery. Regarding your hard drive I mean, nasty business. Your warrior is taking shape, I'd probably agree with AG.'s advice with proportions but they're almost there. Definitely is a warrior that looks like she's seen some action (or in mid-battle perhaps).
Background to my Ace is more polished now. I aim to flesh her out (literally) today with some skin tones and will update later.
Looking good, Porkers.