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    Please draw but don't go crazy on the size or the details right now.

    There is a bad thing about the dragon idea. Remember that these are supposed to be cards, therefore the final image size will be small. If we make a big dragon the king will disappear in the design of the card... it will instead look like the dragon of pentacles with a small figure on the top which may/not be recognizable as a king.

    At this stage I'm all for trying different ideas.

    One of the things which came to mind earlier today is to perhaps include a theme in all of our cards which would in some way or another symbolize torture. The Ace of cups already looks chained in the designs I had. We could make the other figures for our cards mutilated and piereced/bound in some ways?

    For example, the two of wands could be pierced by two spears through the chest. The king and queen of pentacles could be crucified?

    Anyways, keep the discussion here and lets see the designs.

    I think after discussing with Headhunter we will also use week 2 for ideas before we get working on the detailed pieces. Remember that we have plenty of time still and both headhunter and I can whip out detailed works quickly at this stage.

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    Headhunter your work is really impressive. Love your sketches. How long do you take for one of 'em? And do you render it out in black and white before colouring?

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    The Fool

    Hey guys,
    I have signed us up for one extra: "The Fool"

    Here are some tarot images of the character:

    Attachment 875047 Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan

    Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan

    Test description 1 from source of image: This goes double for the psychic world and highway driving, where people who are too sure of themselves are the most dangerous.

    Description from 2nd source: With his possessions in a small bundle at the end of a stick, the fool travels to places unknown. So busy with daydreaming, he may just fall over the cliff. A small dog is either warning him or jaunting along with him. Fool is the card of infinite possibilities. He’s on his way to a new beginning but stop daydreaming and fantasizing and watch your step, lest you fall and end up looking the fool.






    Also another example of a Priestess card:
    Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan

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    Headhunter : sick dude. Specially diggin' the first batch of sketches, they all have sweet elements to 'em

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    Quote Originally Posted by Janos View Post
    Headhunter your work is really impressive. Love your sketches. How long do you take for one of 'em? And do you render it out in black and white before colouring?
    Thanks mate! I don't know about the time but it's approximately 30-45 minutes. About the rendering it's not always b&w in first stage, it depends on how i feel in the moment.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambozo View Post
    Headhunter : sick dude. Specially diggin' the first batch of sketches, they all have sweet elements to 'em
    Thanks! Just sketching basic ideas, i don't need to say it all with the first sketch.
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    Great work from you guys. Niva, you have a point when suggesting a dragon could draw away attention from the main character being an ace, King or whatever. There are enough existing cards however with a character and animal combination that work fine so it should be possible. I think you're safe as long as the main focus is on the character.

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    Hello teamates and people who look at our works and comment! It is very useful, thank you!

    Nick I went to details and I messed up some legs and lenghts of chests. I spent this day drawing King Of Pentacles on a dragon and I think The King may disappear if we draw the dragon in full size. I do like the idea about turtured characters but I am not too sure if the cards won't lose their aim. Because there are certain elements that we must take care of.

    Ace Of Cups - The Ace of Cups shows is a symbol of possibility in the area of deep feelings, intimacy, attunement, compassion and love. In readings, it shows that a seed of emotional awareness has been planted in your life although you may not yet recognize it. When the seed sprouts, it could take almost any form. It might be an attraction, strong feeling, intuitive knowing, or sympathetic reaction. On the outside, it could be an offer, gift, opportunity, encounter or synchronistic event.

    I would recommend you guys we start arranging some serious ideas. I like a lot Miro's variant of Four Of Wands - the wings, the the wands. The idea behind each one of them must be emphasised on the meaning of each card. If we draw each card "tirtured" where is the aim of Ace Of Cups or High Priestess. I also think that we should do 3 (King Of Pentacles, Four Of Wands, Two Of Wands) male and 3 (Ace Of Cups, High Priestess, Queen Of Pentacles) female characters.

    Anyway here is my idea about the King. If you have something in mind we can develop the idea or leave it. Don't worry I can make other drawings .

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    Wow great work here, you guy rock!

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    sick :(

    Hey guys, I've been sick since Friday night and finding it real hard to push. I had such grand plans for this weekend and now it's almost over.

    Tommoy: Thanks a lot man, actually I think it was the discussion in your thread that got me thinking that the dragon is not such a good idea for a major figure like the King. We'll see where we go from here.

    I've a couple of other ideas for the two of wands. Here are the drafts:

    Attachment 875471

    More later hopefully!

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    Daymn Clanlord, that's an awesome drawing!

    Not sure that we can use it though... The dragon is too small compared to the figure imo. Also the character does not look like a King.

    We need sketches, many, quick ones. It really is a shame you made this awesomely detailed drawing at this stage.

    Here are a couple I just put together for the Fool and the High Priestess.

    The Fool:

    Attachment 876054

    I wanted to make our fool not so foolish looking, but rather an imposing and twisted looking figure. I guess kind of inspiread by the Joker from Batman? So from the examples I gave above I guess the darkest one is the one I liked the best. I was thinking of making him look like a god on top of a hill with a painted sky behind him. Not sure about the chains yet but I through them in there because I'm really starting to get this theme going about chains and torture.

    The Priestess:

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    Speaking of torture, I decided to go for a dark version here again. More like the high priestess of suicide and self mutilation. She's stabbing herself with two cross type swords.

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    More Foolishness

    Ok here's an update to the Fool.

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    Thank you Nick!

    No problem your sketches have some good ideas we will work on them more and push forward your ideas. I particularly like what Headhunter did with King Of Pentacles. Actually my initial idea lost during the process of the drawing and it came up totally different. Anyway let's look on the drawing like something which is done only for inspiration. We will not include it because I am not satisfied with it too .
    But I insist that we must take care of what is written about the cards in the main sources which I pointed out in the first page and use it. The character and all elements behind each must clearly symbolise a certain thought.

    I will try to share my ideas about your characters here with quick sketches as soon as I finish with my obligitory work from school.

    Keep drawing guys! - G

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    Clanlord I've been reading a bit into the links you posted earlier. While I do think following what these links say it is probably ok to skip some of the aspects related to the info given there.

    I've been talking to Headhunter about this. For example I'm not sure that the Four of Wands must actually have 4 wands shown in the picture. That being said if we can make a four arm woman holding 4 wands look good I'm all for it. Maybe the wands can be placed in the ground the character could be in the middle?

    For the King I really like the dragon Headhunter painted, it seems to work.

    One of the things we might consider is to do the dragon bounded similar to how Ring Wyrms were "collared" in Final Fantasy XII. Here are some images:

    Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan Team Chow III: Doomsday Dream Clan

    We can perhaps make the collar have a pentacle pattern within?

    Then again, it could get really crowded...

    Here is another push I made on the Priestess, colored her using the quick and dirty method but I spent more time on it then I should've.

    Attachment 877057

    I think the only card design we've settled to has been the Ace of Cups. Clanlord if you can make 3 sketches of him then we can pick the best one for you to detail then I can start painting him perhaps?

    Also Miro said he likes the Fool's design. Maybe you guys can post some variations of him? I kind of like the composition, was thinking of making the background full of chains, making it a hell type environment. He's not foolish at all though ... more like sinister evil.

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