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    P.O.W.! Challenge 35--Okaaaay...I'm (We're) Screwed...




    P.O.W.! Challenge 35
    Deadline: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 11:59 pm anywhere in the world.

    Topic: Okaaaay...I'm (We're) Screwed...


    We're back to our regularly scheduled programming after a rather disappointing experiment in single panels. This time out, the title says it all--and we've all been there. That moment when, after doing/planning something for a longish time, the realization hits that the bottom just fell out and we're all heading for the basement. This "topic" should leave itself open to a lot of different interpretations, ranging from personal experience to your relations with the opposite sex to War with the Ultimate Villain. You can interpret the art any way you wish, and the more creatively, the better. Any media. B&W or Color. We're also going to stick with the (almost) three-week Challenge period for a while because it seems to be giving people a bit more time to play.

    You can present your solution as a minimum of TWO to a TENTATIVE maximum of SIX pages which adhere to standard comic specs as below...and, yes, you can have the first or last (or both) as a splash page if you want. You can go to additional pages without asking if you have a decent idea that requires it--just don't get too extreme on page counts . REMEMBER: You don't have to have a complete comic to qualify to polling--if you're idea requires six pages or so, go for it, but if you realize you're running out of time, try to get at least TWO finished by the deadline. That's all you need to qualify.

    Standard Comic Book Size:

    --Trim size: 6 5/8" x 10 1/4"
    --Live art area: 6" x 9"
    --Bleed size before trimming: 6 7/8" x 10 1/2" (1/8" in all directions)

    This thread will be the place you ask questions on this challenge, trash talk, post WIPs and post your final art. See the READ THIS FIRST thread for all specs.

    Good luck.

    Again, this one is three weeks rather than the usual two weeks to see if it will allow more participation or just cause a lot more procrastination.

    P.O.W.! Challenge 36 will be posted before Sunday Midnight, December 20, 2009.


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    A little note here for all of you who have supported the P.O.W.! Challenges...thankyewthankyewthankyew...

    Just a reminder--those of you who didn't get a chance to finish exactly the way you wanted to, or ran into deadline problems, remember there is a sticky section where you can post your stuff when you do get it up to speed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilaekae View Post
    Standard Comic Book Size:

    --Trim size: 6 5/8" x 10 1/4"
    --Live art area: 6" x 9"
    --Bleed size before trimming: 6 7/8" x 10 1/2" (1/8" in all directions)

    Alright, new to CA's challenges (especially POW). I need some clarification on this.

    The whole page will be [6 7/8" x 10 1/2" (1/8" in all directions)]?
    With a [6" x 9"] area for us to do our artsy stuff.
    Then what is the trim size all about?

    SECONDS: Do you work from life of photographs?
    FRAZETTA: I work from my head.

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    Very informative discussion in the "Read this first" thread, plus freebie templates from Ilaekae:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=115867

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    I said I wasn't going to do this, but I'm kind of changing my mind. The templates I failed to see in the first place are really good... I just realized how my graphic novel doesn't fit that. /facepalm /triplefacepalm /ultrasupersonicfacepalm

    So I might do this, especially now that you allow color, but the thing is I might have to cheat and use previously created characters.

    Either way though, I'm going to use those templates, and the graphic novel I'm working on kind of fits with this topic anyway.... Soo... Maybe I'll do it? Previously created characters are okay?

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    3 weeks? sweet, I'll brainstorm for 2 until I think of the best idea, and draw in one

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    also could you specify the max and min size limit to number of panels too, then just pages?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zwarrior View Post
    also could you specify the max and min size limit to number of panels too, then just pages?
    I think it's a general rule of thumb to not go over 6 panels. Sometimes less can be more. It might take some practice to figure out how to do this. It's possible to go to 9, but that's only suitable for if you want to portray quick scenes with very little dialogue. It's also a good idea, although it doesn't have to be like this all the time, to have no more than 2 people talking in the same panel.

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    6 panels per page? kk, that narrows it down for me then thnks

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    FORGET THE RULES!! go all out with it!!

    old fart didn't scorn me for not following the exact size...

    *goes off contemplating ideas/images that makes no sense but goes with the topic...heheheee*


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    The rules are important for people who ever hope to see their work in print. I admit I have been considering making pages that are animated gifs with characters doing things inside the panels. That's a bit outside of the box but I didn't think it would be a problem as long as the storytelling makes sense.

    I don't see the outside dimensions rule or the "put the POW number and page number" rule getting enforced all that much. Just do your best and try to have a normal aspect ratio to your page. Don't make the words too small or people won't be able to read them.

    Trim and bleed are important because of page cutting machines.

    Here's some WIP type stuff. No time for assembly. I have a deposition today.
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    This is interesting...

    It's a bit long, but totally worth it.



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    When you say we can interpret it as anything we like, is it OK to do TOTALLY screwed, epic end-of-the-world, 2012-ish themes?


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    Nudity and violence are cool here as long as it doesn't cross over to porn or prolonged graphic torture type stuff. Other than that, a little action is actually a good thing because you don't want your strip to be boring.

    Here are the exact words that Ilaekae had used:
    7. There is no restriction on the style or approach, and any content within reason can be used to fulfill the challenge EXCEPT what would generally be accepted by an intelligent person as pornography--images that portray sexual penetration, for example, or offensively detailed cruelty and torture or pedo. Simple NUDITY is not considered pornography. Modified photography MAY be used appropriately for backgrounds or minimal special effects, but should NOT make up the majority of the entry. ALL CHARACTERS MUST BE CREATED AS ART, not photography.

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    Two weeks and counting. I've finished the environment roughs for all panels on my next two pages (and more, since it a SketchUp set that I can use ad nauseum). I know my story well enough to drag it out to an 8 page portfolio piece. All I need now is two characters and about 8 NPCs.

    When time gets away from you, you turn in crap. I hope you are all working.
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    IrishDrunk: The trim size is the actual size of the finished page.

    The bleed size is simply an additional 1/8" in all direction to allow for production slippage when the printer trims the whole mess.

    The Live Art size is a rough guide (often varies a good bit) that most of your important art and copy text should be inside so that it isn't cut off accidentally in the final copy.

    Yowza: You can depict the entire human race being ground up in a meat grinder for sandwiches if you want...just do it tastefully (), whether it's 2012 or 1357 BCE. We have, out of necessity, the loosest parameters of any of the challenges due to the infinite possibilities that any subject can be sequentially approached. A cook demonstrating how the pin from a hand grenade can be used as a pickle fork would probably result in a very short 2-page comic with a lot of impact...no text necessary but fulfilling the requirements...

    zwarrior: Panels depend on the readability and purpose you intend. There is no rule for minimum/maximum number other than common sense--the more cluttered and tiny stuff get, the more pissed off your reader gets. (I have one unfinished comic that has 30 panels on one page, but it works in context.

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    Add: Nudity can be useful. The average 11-year-old boy will read anything tattooed across a set of 38-double C tits...so if you want to have your kids say "NO" to drugs...hmmmmm....

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    Cat man wants to hurt me with hair balls....bring it on!!

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    I'M good Foo00000!!!!!


    People that don't understand that 'bout to get they asses kicked, Yo!
    Sh3eeeeeiioii111iit111ttt56tt!
    . (Yes, I am drunk, but I am over 21 so FU if U don't like my attiitude. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.)

    Honestly. This activity deserves the best effort of whoever checks in. The people who don't post be scare-de-ass-esd punk-ed people; and I mean that in the drunkest possible way. (and shit!111). Do you wanna get yo ass kicked by arttorney, or what11?- (just sayin'..............shee3eeeiiioittt!11!! Yeah, I'm just gonna yell a little bit more. AHHH!!!! Ahhh!!!!)

    (er, less drunk now but no less egotistical. I'll beat you if you don't beat me first. (and yes that's a challenge) (scared yet? Still just sayin' and added some damned exclamation points, yo !!! !!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by arttorney View Post
    I'M good Foo00000!!!!!


    People that don't understand that 'bout to get they asses kicked, Yo!
    Sh3eeeeeiioii111iit111ttt56tt!
    . (Yes, I am drunk, but I am over 21 so FU if U don't like my attiitude. And I mean that in the nicest possible way.)

    Honestly. This activity deserves the best effort of whoever checks in. The people who don't post be scare-de-ass-esd punk-ed people; and I mean that in the drunkest possible way. (and shit!111). Do you wanna get yo ass kicked by arttorney, or what11?- (just sayin'..............shee3eeeiiioittt!11!! Yeah, I'm just gonna yell a little bit more. AHHH!!!! Ahhh!!!!)

    (er, less drunk now but no less egotistical. I'll beat you if you don't beat me first. (and yes that's a challenge) (scared yet? Still just sayin' and added some damned exclamation points, yo !!! !!).
    /sigh.

    Fuck. I was going to wait on posting, but since you mentioned it, I'll just leave these here, even though I'm still screwing around and they are far from finished.

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    Hi!!! I am new here!!! This topic is awesome. As a result I have been totally inspired to actually participate!!! I have started work on my story. Its gonna be three pages long!! And its about RETRIBUTION !!!

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    Really like your stuff so far!!! Especially the colours u are using and the way you have treated the hair of yer lead character!!!

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    All right. Now we're talkin'

    Sorry about last night. I'm paying for it now.

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    My final entry

    This is my final entry. I hope this is the place for final entries. If its not, do tell me where ta upload it.

    I am gonna be busy the rest of the week so sat and finished these over the last couple of days. The last page was kinda hurried. I inked over the pencil work by hand and then coloured (hand) with colour pencils and markers and some final touches in PS. Also all text and stuff done in PS.

    I hope this qualifies!!!
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    Two more pages

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    taking a break from recording......hello kitty (:UPDATE:)

    O.K wow great entry's so far. i had origanally sketched out a manga -ish style comic.. i thought it would be basic and simple but it has back fired on me. it turns out i can digi paint faster than i can sketch....oh well plus seeing velderia's post make me want to up my game what's up arttorney!

    So yeah this is my final.....i'm happy that i accomplished something....not so much with results but that's all the time i have folks....thanks....peace!!!

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    Yay! More people! And I'm not the only one who's manga influenced! Yay! 8D


    And... Multitasking!

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    Good to see you back JS. What's up is that I'm currently keeping my head down a bit after an over exuberant bout of trash talking earlier in the week. I've assembled my environments basically into their respective pages and I have made the initial pencils for characters that will be in the second page out of my three. I'll try to finish up this weekend, I think.

    I am glad that my darkest fears have been allayed, and that other people besides just me will enter this. It's good to see you all coming up with some good stuff.

    Here's another page by me. Obviously I need a third page to come up with a story relevant to the topic.

    My final for my second page of this round:
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    Quick panel knock-out and pencils of the first two panels.

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    You folks are rocking this activity. I'm very happy right now. I've got all the pencil roughs and industrial design work done to insert in the below page. I just need to tinker around with GIMP painting for a couple of mornings. I may bust out a fourth page, time permitting.

    My final page 3 for this round:
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    I hate how this page is turning out. ARRRGH.

    I might have to start some things over. I don't know. I'm just going to try to continue with this mess.

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    I just found out my dad lost his job today.

    If you guys can give me critiques, that would help. I'm going to try to get these pages out to Dark Horse by the end of December. Even though Tokyopop and YenPress aren't so great with printing color (they seem to allow it and discourage it at the same time), I'll try them anyway.

    I feel so stuck right now. I'm going to try to find a job but I don't even think that's possible in this shit economy.

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    I'll try to help tomorrow morning. Today I have to meet a deadline for a legal client.

    What does your father do, if I may ask? P.M. if you don't want to tell the world. I've got some connections and knowledge in software, legal/financial, contracting, real estate, government, trucking, and biotech/pharma.

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