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November 24th, 2009 #1
Draw and Repeat!
Ok so first i will introduce myself. Mladen, 17 years old guy from Croatia who is extra noob in drawing. I would like to get better in drawing, because i draw as a 5 year old kid. That sucks. Inspired by other artist (inluding MindCandyMan) i decided to start with it and to get better. So i need any advice or anything for you. I will post here any thing that i do no matter how bad it is.
I started with Loomis book, but i cannot draw a human body so i need really, really deep basics. I really dunno what is the problem. Maybe my head isn't getting something.
This is my sketch of human porportions from Loomis' book:
P.S. This should be a man.
Please say to me where should i start and how.
Thanks in advance!
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Hide this ad by registering as a memberNovember 24th, 2009 #2
First of all, good job on making the choice to improve. If you stick with it you won't regret it. Secondly, your image is too large. Be sure to resize it next time. If you're not good with Photoshop, Shrink Pictures is a good quick solution.
As for the art itself, you seem to be focusing more on attempting the intricate details of the human body. Don't worry about that right now. Try to focus on the angles of the figure. I've attached a paintover to demonstrate.
Keep on with the Loomis. It's a great place to start.
November 25th, 2009 #3
Thanks on the reply mate. Sorry for big image, i will resize it next time. I found a DVD from Gnomon where they draw lines, circles etc. so i think that for start will stick with that and after i get trough DVD i will switch back to Loomis.
November 25th, 2009 #4
November 25th, 2009 #5
Hi, i think just doodeling with a light grip on the pen and making shapes and playing with lines will do you good
i get the feeling you drew that with a pretty tensed hand?
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November 26th, 2009 #6
Thanks gnilrE. Yea my hand is a bit tensed but i need to soft it.
November 27th, 2009 #7
Ppl did you ever heard about artist named Jacques Fresco? Is he a good man to learn of?
November 29th, 2009 #8
So i am continuing (or better say - starting )
First i made some lines. After that i did that exercise from Loomis. I get this head and feet thing. Then i started to draw the mankin frame. So the question is now what should i do? Draw more mankin frames, draw more lines or continue with the book?
November 29th, 2009 #9
Your lines are very wobbly, practice drawing basic shapes (squares, ovals, cubes, cylinders, etc...) and then try to compose the body out of them. Also buy a mechanical pencil and push the button untill you have about an inch of lead sticking out of the pencil, draw like that in order to soften you lines.
Youve made a good start, now just continue with your studies untill you have a solid understanding of proportions.
Also, for perspective, check out http://tenminutedrawing.blogspot.com...1_archive.html
Feel free to ask if you want me to elaborate on anything ive said.
Good luck with everything, and sorry if i sounded like a jerk with my comment.
Visit my sketchbook here
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November 30th, 2009 #10
Thanks mate on the reply and it doesn't sound jerky.
Yea i am going to master my lines. I am starting to follow an artist named Jacques Fresco.
This blog looks nice. Thanks on the link!
December 2nd, 2009 #11
So i am continuing with Jacquest Fresco. I think that my lines are ok. They are not great but they are ok. I will get them trought the time (will sketch them everyday). But i have problem with elipse. I dunno why it looks so shitty. Any advice?
December 4th, 2009 #12
New sketch from Loomis. I will later put my circles.
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For ellipses try to ghost it, draws fast with a movement of wrist the raised pencil (about ten millimeters of the paper), then when you feel that it's good draw concretely and always rather fast. The more it will be slow and the more that will be wrong(strange, not correct,etc.) Sorry if my english is bad.
April 8th, 2010 #14
I'm idle till the end of the school (one more month).
April 13th, 2010 #15
I decided to draw whenever I have free time.
So I was shopping yesterday and I got this:
500 x A4
1 x HB Pen
So here are first images. Did them before going to bed in about 15 minutes.
Today more to come.
April 13th, 2010 #16
hey there, I wouldn't call you an extra noob honestly, because you're actually doing it and deticating yourself to it in your freetime which is more than honestly a lot of people do in artschool. As for the ellipses don't focus on being so precise try to be loose and do a lot of really light circles with a continuous motion and then try a harder line when you feel more confident, also make sure you draw through with light lines, this is really important because when you don't it ruins the sense of continuity in the line and ends up looking worse than if you had a line running through the object. Hope this helps, keep at it, it gets a lot better
April 13th, 2010 #17Draw or Die !
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Hey dude, nice you wanna improve ! Well maybe i didn't read well, but it's weird no one mentioned to draw from life, and i think it's the basics ! you should first improve your drawing skills ! draw from life as much as you can ! start with simple objects ! don't be focused on the values for now ! only the lines ok ! and also do a lot of blind contours, it means to draw something, your hand for example, but without looking at the paper ! the goal isn't to make a good drawing, but just to improve your line quality ! and don't look at the paper !!!!! try to draw all the little shapes variations from the skin ( you'll see that it's not straight, and that there is a lot of variation . ) and take your time man ! forget about anatomy for now, try to learn perspective, because there is perspective everywhere, even in figure drawing, and even in portraits !! so learn perspective and draw from life and do blind contours, i think you'll improve really fastly with these 3 things !
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April 13th, 2010 #19
Thanks on some great suggestions Kvick, kikindaface, cgaddict!
Guys, one question.
Does it matter if I draw on normal table or on drawing one? I mean is it ok that I draw on normal one (like this). So my paper is down, but the item that I'm drawing is up - link (sorry for bad sketch, it is 5 sec with mouse in paint).
April 14th, 2010 #20
April 16th, 2010 #21
Reading Loomis' book "Succesful drawing" and I like it. I'm on the perspective now. I also paid 1$ for trial www.drawing-online-tutorials.com and it's nice but I kinda don't like it, dunno why. Here's the work of the last two days:
P.S. Can you recommend me what to draw besides following Loomis' book? I really dunno, cup and mobile phone are "too" easy and I draw them fast.
Sketching a horse.
Scribbling and trying different tones.
April 16th, 2010 #22
With your dedication you'll surely reach way beyond beginner
I'll be stopping by to follow your progress!
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April 18th, 2010 #23
Thanks mate on the support!
Thanks on the suggestion. After the summer I'll buy a drawing table.
So here is more of the work. As I said, I'm following Loomis' book "Successful drawing" and I'm training perspective.
Sketched the body from the book. Arms are too small.
Doing some squares here, trying to draw with the wrist, not with the fingers. Is that ok? Do you draw like that?
Also do you rotate your paper when drawing?
Starting with perspective, not going well.
Tried to make big one, but still odd.
And I finnaly got it!
Here's with more squares, first one is too big. So here is how I draw it in perspective. I draw two lines from first VP, two from second VP and then I got the square. After that I put 3 dots above this square where the edges of the top should be. Then I draw more lines from VP that are going trough this dots, and that is all. Is this way ok?
Drawing a cricle inside.
An odd cylinder.
Then I saw that in every square a edge is in front of me, so I get that the first edge, and the last one are in the same line (don't know if you get me ). The second square is that I looked for.
That's all. Any advices, or suggestions?
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April 20th, 2010 #26
@Diarum - Thanks. I'll try that book also, when I switch to human anatomy. Thanks!
@kmoeini - Thanks on the support mate!
So continuing with perspective.
Trying to do the simple cube, but I'm getting mad.
Finnally got what is the problem.
Trying with rulers, not going well.
Once again, no ruler, good one.
Doing cylinders and a sketch of sphere, but it's too small.
Trying a big sphere, looking odd.
Trying with rulers, didn't make the VP and perspective and I got - sh**.
Then I found how to draw a cube in one VP perspective. Done it!
Doing some two VP cubes.
Finnaly, the sphere looks ok.
Doing some normal stuff.
Coffe cup in PS.
Any suggestions, advices? One question, can there be more than two VP on one object?
April 20th, 2010 #27
the perspective lines appear to be helping your cup drawings. keep it up. at this stage my only recommendation is that you draw a LOT. every day. fill sketchbooks. make sure you are drawing from life regularly, keep drawing cups, your shoes, whatever you find visually interesting.
your biggest weakness at the moment is your eye, its leading to some poor proportions on your drawings. you need to learn to abstract the things you see into basic shapes, like you said. starting figures with circles, etc
- i recommend looking into bargue drawings and seeing if you can copy some of those to help train your eye and hand. don't overcomplicate things by trying to learn anatomy or such things
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April 20th, 2010 #28
Thanks mate. Yup, I'm trying to draw as much as I can. After I do homework and school stuff, I open the PDF book of Loomis, and draw.
What do you mean with bargue drawings? What kind of drawings are that? Yup, no anatomy for now, only normal things.
April 23rd, 2010 #29
Practicing some lighting things.
Tried to recreate this - http://www.yeskafei.com/wp-content/u...la-History.jpg
And I got this:
I don't know if I should laugh or cry. :/
P.S. It took me 1h and 35 min to draw this.
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April 23rd, 2010 #30
It's amazing how you're getting better with every post! You may feel discouraged when comparing your sketches to pros' works or photographs, but it's all about those little steps. Keep drawing! (: