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    Does this scare you or excite you?

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    Neither.

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    yup neither. The best I could descripe the video is underwhealming...I'll summerize it and save people time: other countries have lots of people, the U.S. isn't always #1, people have lots of jobs, the internet is popular...

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    well, the 1st part was a bit scary but not particularly shocking. After that it was just a whole bunch of info that I don't really care about, which shows what I find to be the counter-argument;

    While information is becoming increasingly available, the percentage of that information that is actually worthwhile is dwindling into a shrinking needle in an ever-growing haystack, a point that was quite poignantly made by Elwell in the "Drawing Asians" thread.

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    trivial facts and assumptions that all mention the obvious; shit evolves and grows through time... shocking.

    The China/India bit is also old, and why should it be shocking? Im aware there's an argument about it, but its all ethnocentric mumbo-jumbo.

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    Interesting and good presentation though

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    I was definitely excited. I don't understand you people who weren't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Coene View Post
    While information is becoming increasingly available, the percentage of that information that is actually worthwhile is dwindling into a shrinking needle in an ever-growing haystack, a point that was quite poignantly made by Elwell in the "Drawing Asians" thread.
    Also, I find myself not really caring about the information which I have available, because I have so much of it. I buy a bunch of books and end up not having time or desire to do much more than flip through them... but it might just be me getting old. There was a time when I really treasured my collection of.. for example art books (pretty much consisting of just "Judgment on Gotham"). Now I just put stuff in my save folder and forget.

    Sturgeon's law can be fought to some degree. What's interesting is what computers can do with information, and might be able to do in the future. Image search technology is particularly interesting for us artists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prometheus|ANJ View Post
    Also, I find myself not really caring about the information which I have available, because I have so much of it. I buy a bunch of books and end up not having time or desire to do much more than flip through them... but it might just be me getting old. There was a time when I really treasured my collection of.. for example art books (pretty much consisting of just "Judgment on Gotham"). Now I just put stuff in my save folder and forget.
    The reason that I like books in not so much for pouring over them, but that they still are easier for me to use when doing research on images that I know I am likely to work with. Image searching can be a bit unsettling on line for me. I never know exactly how exact the information given about the image is, and half the results are entirely unhelpful. Also I get caught up in trying to find exactly what I'm looking for, rather than finding the basics of what I need and figuring out how to adjust them to the needs of my image. It might be weird but thats just the way that I am.

    Also, you seem a bit more interesting to people when your home is littered in books about weapons, medieval art, human anatomy, WW2 aircraft, design motifs, as well as a large collections of props (toy guns, swords, armor, musical instruments, model sets, etc) adorning the place. It definitely beats a pile of bills and a computer in the corner.

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    It's not shocking, but it was exciting I'd say.

    There's too many people I've run into who underestimate the evolution of technology and such. Well, more like too many pessimistic people.

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    With everyone trying to "globalize" and the internet, yes, I'll admit, the first part is paralyzing.

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    Actually it was funny, especially since i am not from USA, China or India.
    Beauty of big numbers, can anyone tell me how much kilometers(or miles) of toilet paper spend in one year?

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    "By 2013 a supercomputer will be build that exceeds the computational capabilities of the human brain." so the Mayans were off by just 1 year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krato View Post
    "By 2013 a supercomputer will be build that exceeds the computational capabilities of the human brain." so the Mayans were off by just 1 year.
    In b4 Skynet.

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    so a computer will be better at computing than a human brain....... didnt this happen since, you know... computers existed?

    supposedly we only use 10% of our brain, with that 10%, the only advantage we have and will continue to have over computers is the fact that we can think irrationally. That's what creativity is.

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    "Computers are useless. They can only give answers" - Pablo Picasso

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    Scary was to see a 12 year old looking at a classic dial phone in a museum and pressing the numbers like they were buttons. That was a moment I wish I hadn't witnessed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtsySiridean View Post
    In b4 Skynet.
    That's no even funny man. I have nightmares about that.

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    The fun fact that scares me is that my state is on a track that within 10 years will have Most of its inhabitants qualifying as obese. Anybody walk through a midwestern Walmart lately? Anybody visit a rustbelt Sam's Club? Geeezuss.

    As far as the video goes, I liked it. I liked the music on it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zwarrior View Post
    so a computer will be better at computing than a human brain....... didnt this happen since, you know... computers existed?

    supposedly we only use 10% of our brain, with that 10%, the only advantage we have and will continue to have over computers is the fact that we can think irrationally. That's what creativity is.
    They just made that up (the "computational power of the human brain exceeded by 2013"). Either that or it was announced by some IT geezer who didn't realise that that not only does nobody have a clue what the computation power of the human brain actually is, nobody yet knows how to measure it or, broadly speaking, what it means. Of course a lot of nonsense has been talked about it, such as multiplying somewhat random digits by the number of synapses in our brains, but nothing sensible has been produced. It sounds good, though.

    And the 10% thing is made up too. There are no parts of our brains that are not used.

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    wait... it does live people outside the US?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baron Impossible View Post
    There are no parts of our brains that are not used.
    I ask you again, have you walked through a midwestern Walmart lately?

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    Did You Know?
    There are 60 seconds per minute
    ............this video contained 4.55 minutes
    ................That means I just wasted 273 seconds watching that video hoping for a deeper meaning....

    Thats What That Means


    ...plus the time it took me to make this ridiculous post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I ask you again, have you walked through a midwestern Walmart lately?
    Ah, but some people have very small brains the size of a pea, and they're stuck to the inside of their skulls like wads of chewing gum. (So says the guy who once looked at his watch whilst wearing a new suit and holding two pints of beer)

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    There's a man who only had 10%. Actually, he has it all, just compressed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill View Post
    I ask you again, have you walked through a midwestern Walmart lately?

    If not, then ENJOY: http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PsiBug View Post
    OH GOD MY EYES!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyDevil View Post
    OH GOD MY EYES!!!
    In 10 years, that will be half of Ohio.

    edit: Instead of only the third that it is now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zwarrior View Post
    so a computer will be better at computing than a human brain....... didnt this happen since, you know... computers existed?

    supposedly we only use 10% of our brain, with that 10%, the only advantage we have and will continue to have over computers is the fact that we can think irrationally. That's what creativity is.
    I think you need to understand either computers or human creativity better. Right now that 10 percent that we use does far more than any man-made computer out there. Sure, computers can calculate and work out a number of logical problems and all that, but ask a computer to invent, to write a bestselling novel, to interact on a level apart from basic communication.

    If we were all Vulcans and had nothing in our brains apart from basic logic then computers could easily surpass us. But there is far more to our brain, things we do even without thinking, that computers cannot come close to. Do you even realize how much information your brain needs to process just to stand up and balance on the structure of our own 2 legs, let alone walk? Asimo, that robot that everyone makes a huge deal about, was designed with a form far more stable than ours and still will have trouble doing the things that an average 5 year old does easily without even thinking about it. That is just a taste of the power of the human brain.

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    The fun fact that scares me is that my state is on a track that within 10 years will have Most of its inhabitants qualifying as obese. Anybody walk through a midwestern Walmart lately? Anybody visit a rustbelt Sam's Club? Geeezuss.

    As far as the video goes, I liked it. I liked the music on it too.
    Um, Colorado Walmarts don't seem so bad for me. Back in California they seem horrible tho. I guess because CA has so many other stores Walmarts there are nothing but disturbing while all the normal people go elsewhere. Here in CO just about everything but Walmart seems to be going down, so I actually see regular average people there.

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