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    here's my hawk boy~ I'm not really familiar with steam punk genre, so don't know if this is OK for the briefing. Would love some advice.


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    lead concubine on a pleasure zephir?
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    All right y'all you win, I'll just turn the friggin' head
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    If frontal nudity is not allowed, don't look at my sketches on the first page!!!. But I guess if it's functional there's no problem right, what are the rules on that?

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    Tommoy Nudity is allowed, pornography is not.

    It's a subtle line but we police it anyway. :]

    The only really huge issue is that photobucket will kick stuff from the poll (since that's where we host the poll images) sometimes if they deem it too racy.

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    I started at least. I have no idea what I'm doing though, heh.
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    You know, one would think I learned to butt-off from ChOWs since I`m lacking skills/imagination/whatchamacallit, but noooooo...here I go again!

    I did a boo-boo. Couldn`t find a reference image, so I drew the pose "out of my head", and now I need help making it look anatomically correct. Anyone willing to help out?

    CC to follow, as soon as I get back from my class..."Esthetics" AKA what is beauty...ugh...Android would love it...

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    pxelslayer - i think the torso is distorted. the middle line doesnt follow the body's twist, which creates a surrealistic look and i believe you gotta pay some attention to the hip anatomy. also, the lower arm seems a bit too long and there are no folds at all where the torso is twisting. (in such an extreme pose there are bound to be folds!) and yeah ... where are the feet??

    lkjhgfdsa- um ... you do know this week's chow is oriental-themed right? just a thought ...

    fluorine - it looks great. only critique, how is the viewer supposed to know that it's a harem slave? atm he looks more like a prince or smth like that.


    well, here's mine ... i hope its still clear what is going on in the picture. :/
    i'd appreciate some feedback.

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    Just a quick note on the oriental theme though.... It was actually forbidden to make slaves of muslims, so all the girls in a harem would originally be of christian, jewish, etc origin. And they were gathered from many areas, sometimes quite a bit away.

    It makes it funny though, they were converted to islam, but if you think about it, the Sultana would originally be from the harem. So the Sultan to be would be half something or other. And would then get a kid with one from the harem again that was again not a muslim originally and would be half something else. And then it goes on and on, heh.
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    There's something a bit squiffy about the perspective on the bed at the moment. Needs more Zeppelin!

    Edit01: Colour blobbed down on a multiply layer over the linework. Going to have clouds through the porthole.

    Edit02: A bit of work on the face.

    Edit03: Final and WIPs.
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    Flourine; I love him! I think the bird will make a nice steampunk element, and maybe if the patterning on his robes reflected some of the steampunk elements too (clocks, gears, that kinda thing!) His feet seem large upto his torso, and his hand looks huge up to the size of his head - as a guide the bottom of the palm to the top of the fingers should be as long as the distance from chin to eyebrows.

    lkjhgfdsa: She'd not reading too much as a harem slave to me at the moment, more like a captain of an airship. Might be the colours.. that navy blue, white and gold tends to suggest captaincy, and she's got a lot of attitude for a concubine, even a head one. Do like her mass of red hair tho, would love to see some gold ornaments in it.

    Pixeltuner: Peer pressure, gotta love it.

    Tommoy: I'm loving the colours in yours, really captures a flavour of something exotic and the dance pose is lovely. Her arms feel quite thin up to her gorgeously curvy legs. And maybe in the final version you post, you could just add a couple of teeny nipple-coverings? I love the nudity myself tho!

    Sorknes: looking good! The leather belts and dangling clocks are a really nice touch and her posture suggests subservience really nicely. her face reminds me of someone and it's driving me nuts I can't think of who! No real crits, but maybe add some darker greens to the shadows of the purple trousers, to unify it with the green in her top? Also, thanks for the tidbit on harems... I was wondering why you never saw dark skinned women in the orientalist paintings, makes a lot more sense now!

    Pxelslayer: Like the pose, tho there are some definite anatomy issues. You might find it helpful to browse through some of the nude in lockstock's gallery in Deviantart: http://lockstock.deviantart.com/gallery/#Nudes - she has some really nice laid down poses like that. There'd definitely be more twist in the mid section - specifically the line of the stomach in the middle. But it's very classically elegant, I like!

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    : it's stilla little early to give feedback, but I'd maybe figure out what you're going to do behind your lady too, light-wise. It'll affect how you paint the final thing a lot.

    Aly: Dammit man. You're too damned good! Great blending of the elements of the two cultures, and the bed looks good to me there, but I may have squiffy eyes. O.o

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    Cool theme

    Face is still a bit wonky, and I need to practice me some breasts. Tried to keep it soft, but it may just be too soft right now, got to see what I'll do to this thing. First time trying to mix PS and Painter

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    Okay, I hope I didn't forget anyone, but if I did sorry! I'm trying to give as much advice as I can, even if mine is really lacking right now haha.

    CKLamb: The pose seems to be holding together better now. I think right now though you are drawing too much attention and contrast to the background and not enough to the pose itself, and so it's starting to look flat and messy. Put some of that nice attention into the figure!
    Shogo: I absolutely love that idea so far. It reads so well as a silhouette and yet seems to leave a lot of room for some great details further down. I think adding a little mask-idea could really work, I mean, why not push the idea as far as you can? Not much else to crit
    Irrlaeufer: Thanks for the advice man! Except I'm a little confused... Do you mean make her left (our right) thigh a little wider, like the right? Or do you mean I should switch the two legs entirely? Sorry I'm an idiot haha!
    Zephryi: Man, that face is looking so freaking awesome! My only advice would be to push the steam punk element a little more, since it doesn't seem apparent quite yet.
    Zilrion: Nice steam punk look! I agree, some drapery will help make it feel more oriental. Be careful about the way she is sitting, her right (our left) doesn't quite read yet, it seems like it needs a little more attention to make it feel like it's really going up and bending.
    Matt_B: This looks so great, and already stands strongly as an overall design. My only suggestion would be to bring more light to her face and that heart-apparatus in front of her. I keep being drawn to the legs because of all the light and saturated colors.
    LaurenR: Love the linework of your piece so far, it really fits into this theme well! Her hair is freaking awesome too. I noticed her pelvis seems a bit too thick though, but I think if you liven up the pose like purb36 said that will really help.
    Grimwood: Your values are really working well as a whole, and I really like the overall movement that it seems to enhance. Be careful though, it seems like your main girl keeps getting disjointed. With a tough pose like that, you may want to take a transparent layer over it and break all the big shapes (head, rib cage, pelvis) down to just boxes then adjust them into the pose, then draw the body around those shapes. It will help to give you a more solid structure to work from.
    fluorine: I really love your character, he reads really well. But as far as the steampunk problem, I think one of the fundamental things about that genre is the mechanical lore in it. Gritty contraptions with Victorian overtones is key, so if you somehow made some of the details in his outfit (maybe in the belt or headdress region?) have more of a feeling of the Victorian style it may seem a lot more 'steampunk'. I hope that makes sense, I'm really bad with words haha
    lkjhgfdsa: A fierce redhead! I really like how powerful she looks, but I'd have to agree that she probably needs more elements to make her feel more like she is part of a harem. Perhaps a traveling zeppelin harem? Haha, I dunno. But It seems like you can really push the kind of Oriental feeling of it with that design.
    Tommoy: I really like that it feels like she is on a stage of sorts, entertaining all the sultans. It really has a interesting environment already. I'd just be careful with how her feet are placed, it becomes unclear about her pose as soon as it gets to her feet.
    Sorkes: I love those colors and shapes! She really feels like a harem girl (is that the correct terminology?) already. Be sure to push the pose throughout her body though, I'd expect to see more bending in her leg with a pose like that.
    Pxleslayer: This seems like a promising start, and it seems like with some work it will read very well. I agree the pelvis/torso relationship seems very off, but also keep in mind where exactly her body is going to be hitting the ground plane (or bed or whatever it is that she is laying on), and make sure you aren't forcing her into too awkward of a pose overall, if that makes any sense
    crimson_shape: Like before, I think you have a strong start. But now, I would worry about the relationship of the girl in the front and the man in the back. If he is in the distance, I would make him a lot smaller overall to push the perspective, but also make sure that the values of the foreground and the background don't compete with each other or aren't the same, since one needs to win!
    Poshspice: Now I feel bad for posting mine... since yours is so freaking beautiful! I have nothing more constructive to say right now, sorry

    As far as mine, I've been working on the background and I came to realize that I really, really, really suck at backgrounds. Especially with geometric, man-made objects. They somehow always look so.. fake when I paint them. :/ Anyways, I tried adding more elements of being a slave into the background, because I feel it doesn't quite portray the actuality of being a harem girl yet. So right now I'm trying to make the background environment feel like it's nice, yet has a lot of creepy slave elements in it.
    I've also really been trying to make the legs work. I tried making the thighs a little thicker, and a little thinner around the calves but I'm not sure if it quite reads yet. I still need to work on the one in the front a LOT more...
    Any advice more than welcome

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    Some one line comments for the last page or so:

    Zephyri – GORGEOUS! Your rendering on the face is looking excellent in the update.

    Uziel – Very nice setting. At the moment my main crit would be don’t try and do too much. Of course you may want to take this a whole lot further, but you could tighten up the composition and still make all the point you need.

    Grimwood – I like what you’re doing here, the forced perspective adds drama, but can I ask why you’ve tilted the camera? Right now it looks like they are on a ship being tossed around a bit. As for your concerns about the back leg, both of them look to be on the same plane, so although the perspective is forced on the background it’s not so on her back leg. Edit: Just saw your update... I take it they are on an airship?

    Deadhead16mb – Loving the sketches right now. Nudity is allowed, but be prepared for a ‘covered up’ version to satisfy the prudes at Photobucket.

    Majortom – Like the pose. I did a rough in a similar one when I was working mine out, and had a thought... why not put an old fashioned pipe (Sherlock Holmes style) on the end of the hookah pipe? It’d be more Steampunk...

    Clockwork Bunny – Lovely little image so far. As for background, a fairly typical harem environment? Look at some of the orientalist inspiration in the first post. One thing: the breasts look a little flat, as though they are pressed against glass...

    CKLamb – It may be a mess, but it’s a pretty mess. Lovely sketch and the profile is very nice. Interested to see where you take this.

    Shogo – Yup, the idea of peacock feathers is fab. Personally if you’re going with a mask keep it held from the face, as expression is part of the character process and important to the brief.

    Irrlaeufer – You’re having fun on the face, but broaden the composition a bit. At the moment it feels quite constrained.

    Zilrion – Has she scoffed all the fruit on that plate?! Relax the arm holding the fan. It’s a bit ‘stressed’ right now. And think about where the other one is going. It kind of disappears into ‘I don’t know what to do with the hand’ territory at the moment.

    Matt B – Wonderful lighting. You’re getting that orientalist vibe down to a tee with the shadows and the hazy light through the window.

    LaurenR – Great little sketch, and very interesting pose. Love the graphic style of your mark-making as well.

    Fluorine – Love the mechanical bird. Getting a bit of a T E Lawrence vibe here, and it’s fine for the brief.

    Lkjhgfdsa – Yup, smaller head. Also check the breasts. Pushed as high as that there would be a heavier ‘top curve’ to stop them looking as though they come from the neck area. Also don’t be tempted to put too many ‘waves’ in the contour of the cloth. For example where it indents next to the resting hand. It would hang looser and be more aesthetic. Costume’s coming along great.

    Tommoy – Very nice! Outfit is great with all the twiddly bits, and the environment looks like it’s starting to take shape as pretty Steampunky.

    Sorknes – Smashing. Lots of character in the face and I like the watches. She is going to have some feet!?

    PxelSlayer – Stop with that ‘no imagination’ rubbish. The fact you can draw poses from your head should stop that! Very odalisque and fitting for the brief. Not much more to say until it develops further.

    Crimson Shape – Great markmaking. Fresh and energetic! Only thing is right now it looks like two images, not a complete composition.

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    Not sure if this is going to go anywhere, but crits are always welcome:

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