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    ....at a tremendous cost. You can buy books on all these subjects at a fraction of the cost. The only valid reasons to go to college and grad school at today's prices are

    1. it'll certify you for a specific career, with a salary high enough to pay off your debt.
    2. Scholarships and/or financial aid make it free.

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    Sometimes I always wonder why art schools are so fricken expensive.
    I really don't understand. A standard normal Bachelor degree in engineering / HR / accounting etc., costs way less than those US$160,000 art schools.

    Maybe all the lecturers are of the old masters' standards, and all the materials provided are made of top-grade platinum. And maybe they hire Hollywood celebrities as models for students to draw.

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    Nothing is free TASmith. Time and money my friend, you're going to pay one way or the other.

    And, as far as Art School vs. University, I would definitely go with University. I went to a small state university then went to SAIC for some post-bac. Other then status level, there was no difference in the courses.

    University Cost ($6k a year before Grants and Scholarship, $5.2k after Scholarship)
    SAIC ($30k a year before Grants and Scholarship, $7k a year after applying Grants and Scholarships)

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    CK, you did it right, minimizing the costs. Not everyone can do that. The same advice isn't applicable to everyone - some kids get to college not knowing what they want to do yet. If you don't mind my asking, what was your major?

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    I received a BFA in Fine Arts, majoring in Painting/Drawing and minoring in Art History.

    However, I spent my first two years as a political science major, had I not taken Classical and Modern Political Philosophy I would have never had the gumption to commit to a Fine Arts degree. The readings and discussions I had in that course changed my life.

    And, as a quick note, I just recently started dabbling in commercial art, my primary studies are centered around a career in academic art. My MA program starts next year, after that I plan on heading to a larger state university for my MFA, which will help once I start looking for a professorship somewhere.

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    It could work very well for you, however I could NOT do this. My self motivation is terribly low but when I'm at college I work no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CKLamb View Post
    And, as a quick note, I just recently started dabbling in commercial art, my primary studies are centered around a career in academic art. My MA program starts next year, after that I plan on heading to a larger state university for my MFA, which will help once I start looking for a professorship somewhere.
    Just curious, but is there a PhD for art, after getting MFA and BFA?
    I think art is the only discipline that doesn't have a PhD. Maybe there is, but I haven't seen or heard one in my entire life (Doctoral degree in art / PhD in Art).

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    Xeon- Yes and no. I've heard of a couple PhD programs springing up, alongside honorary doctoral titles (I think Wyeth was conferred one such title)...can't think of any off the top of my head though...but, anyways, they aren't gaining any steam. There are PhD programs in related subjects, like Aesthetic Studies, that do seem to be springing up, but, ultimately, I think there is a consensus that a PhD is just unnecessary in our field....it would kind of be like getting a degree in Bullshitting at that point.

    If you're into art and academics there are PhD programs in Museum Studies, Art History, Aesthetic Studies, Critical Theory, and Preservation/Restoration.

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    I am learning by myself right now, since I never went to an art school and are studying COMPLETELY different subjects then art (sometimes I wish I went to art school though...). But I got a great friend who's self thaught and he helps me a lot, encourages me, gives me so much great advice and critique, shows me techniques - he's the one who made me start taking art more seriously. I have been very lazy when it comes to studies and that is why I haven't progressed, I realise that now and there's no excuses for it. But I have decided to really push it now, study more then I have ever before and study hard each day, because I want to reach my goals - even if they seem like a hundred miles away right now I want to reach them soooo bad.

    And I have started watching Bob Ross, and he cheers me up as nothing else when it comes to art, and as my great friend say: don't see a drawing that didn't come out as you thought as a failure, see it as a progress, another study on the way to your goal (not exactly his words but you get the point).

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