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You've got some really good studies here - I especially like all the hands you've been doing. You may have mentioned this in a previous post but I couldn't find it - which book are you using for them?
Also, thanks a lot for the comment on my sketchbook !
Krato- Thanks! And you're right, I think part it has to do with me botching the angle. I can't seem to fill it out without taking artistic license.
anabanana- The hand studies are from George B. Bridgman's Constructive Anatomy. No problem.
Working on a banner for my guild. One of my friend's helped me with the composition and the 'O' in the word 'Dog.'
Should I add some cool colours? The guild colours are dark red and gold, so I'm not sure if I should. I know that you should have cool colours with warm lighting so...
Last edited by Enydimon; November 13th, 2009 at 09:31 PM.
Ok, so I want to get this right from the get go. Paint overs and critiques are welcome here! Especially on perspective and his overall pose.
A little more on Santa Orc guy. I think I've got him leaning too forward.
Last edited by Enydimon; November 14th, 2009 at 02:21 AM.
More studies from Bridgman, going to take a small break.
Jesus, you're working really hard. I like your color pallete and your bridgman studies look really great!
Keep it up
Helaine- Haha, I have a lot of time to work on art so I use it wisely. Thanks!
teapo- Thanks. It's OK, sometimes you have to go out and apply what you're learning on top of studies. Breaks from it are refreshing too.
Update on my santa orc drawing.
Nice inks on the santa orc drawing...he's taking a pooh O_o
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Krato- Thanks. And at least you commented, good feedback is still feedback.
Pigeonkill- Indeed he is, aha. Thanks.
Hellfire- Thanks, dude.
Haven't gotten back into studies, been working on the Santa Orc thing(because I want it finished up soon.) and I've got two commissions today. They're both speedpaints. I'm really happy with the troll.
Lovely man! I like the other boot on the roof though, maybe making the chimnee taller would help with the cramped feel in the lower torso bits
but nice to see you still keeping it up
thanks for sharing
Hey mang that Santa orc kicks ass! Great line quality!
Definitely get the large shapes down, then put details in. At least think of the large shapes first.Should I outline the entire shape and then add details or should I should I do add in the details once I get a big shape down?
I think the werewolf drawing got away from you a bit. The mouth ended a little to low and the nose got a bit too long.
As you study head construction more, those relative spacings will be internalized in your brain, I believe. Bammes does excellent mass conceptions of the skull/head, and Bridgmans are good too.
The crit you received (by another member... forgot his name) on the shading was a really smart one; but I don't think it's so much about "ref" as it is 1) understanding the large (and smaller) volumes and then 2) using value to depict those. Of course, you'll need to select a light source.
Mentler works without ref quite a bit because he knows how to draw the body from the inside out... which is what Bridgman and others will give you. Ref is fine but don't allow it to become a crutch.
You really do work hard and post a lot!
Flaskpost- Thanks, will do.
jedininjaman- Hey man, it's been a while hasn't it? I've been on and off with the studies but this time I'm determined to sticking with it. Thanks for the critique too!
p sage- Thanks for the info. I'll make good use of it. I hear Mentler's threads are informative so I'll have to take a peak myself.
Revisited some Bridgman because I felt I could do better. I think I'm starting to understand why he draws certain things the way he does.
More updates on Santa Orc.
Nice studies man, and lots of them. Have you tried Loomis "Head and Hands" book? I think it will help your face drawings a lot (shading mainly). That Christmas Orc looks fabulous. Remember for every page of studies you do, back it up with a page of of studies from your memory for a real power boost!
Krato- Will do! Thanks for the crit.
AlexTooth- I have in the past, but I think I'm going to start drawing from Fun With A Pencil and then work my way up to that book. Fun With A Pencil does start off with head construction, so that should be good for me. I'll try doing more studies from my memory! Thanks.
DeeLock- Wow, thanks a lot. Didn't think I'd hear something like that so soon.
I want to give a shout out to p sage and Collywobbles, because now I'm finally getting how to break things down properly. I still have some issues with proportion but man, studies just got a lot easier and I feel like I'm actually learning a lot just by doing this. Thanks guys, without your knowledge I'd still be stuck.
I think I'm comfortable enough with the new pencil grip that I'm drawing just as naturally as I did before. Here's some studies I did today(technically yesterday, it's 12:24 AM here right now), I swear I'm becoming addicted to studies, they're so much fun. I never thought they could be this much fun. I'm going to start breaking into some Loomis studies now with my Bridgman, that's the plan. An update on Santa Orc, and a small wip drawing from photo reference that was requested from someone.
Hey me again! As always your Bridgeman studies are looking tight and the santa orc cracked me up i love it! Thimk someone mentioned it up there you handled the line work beautifully you still havent fleshed out the previous orc though! tut tut! Going great guns keep doing what your doing
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hey enydimon! your santa orc painting is coming along great! do you plan on painting some sort of aurora in the sky? so you're getting addicted to studies huh?? that will certainly pay off ;3. WE MUST ALL STUDY MOAR!!! XD
latigid- Thanks, man. And I'll get around to fleshing out that other Orc, I just have some things I gotta get out of the way.
teapo- Thanks, I might flesh out an aurora, not decided.
OK, so all day I pretty much did studies. 7 hours worth plus a non-reffed one.
I think I'm going to start regulating things. Bridgman on Mondays and Tuesdays, Loomis on Wednesdays and Thursdays, Hogarth on Friday and Bammes on Saturday and Sunday.
I'm halfway through Constructive Anatomy from Bridgman and I'm on page 31 on Fun With a Pencil by Andrew Loomis.
Woo... I feel exhausted.
I'm having one of those days. Designing vehicles might just not be for me... I've been seriously considering getting back into 3d modeling. I don't know what I want anymoooooooore. Maybe it's just vehicles, I do enjoy environments and designing weapons and doodads. Hmmm.
This was as far as I got, about 5 hours worth(including thumbnails), before I just got sick of it.
Not sure if I should dive into Bammes just yet. Did some Loomis today but don't feel like scanning it in, lol.
Worked on Santa Orc.
Krato- Yeah, I should study lighting on chrome and metals.
Some Loomis and Bridgman and an update on Santa Orc. I realize that there are some perspective and anatomy issues on the Orc, but I've learned a lot. It's really cool when you start reading about how something works and you look at your hand or another body part and it just clicks with you.
Also a question: What books can I grab for perspective?
Great Bridgman, Batman.... that stuff is rockin. Line quality is through the roof.
Santa Orc is great... there's an issue with the lighting on the left hand, though. The main (yellowish) light source seems to be coming from the upper left, but his hand is turned toward the lower right, and it has light on it too... it looks weird...
I think that and a few little other adjustments to the lighting would help it read better.
It's stars time, btw. ***** for Santa orc plus great linework on the Bridgman.
(Stars pop up after like three people vote)