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    Classical Atelier at Home

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    Hi folks!

    I want to tell you my story and I hope I´m able to elate you for my enthusiasm in what I am doing now and want to do in the future.

    When I was a kid I collected Spider Man comics. And I not only read them, I copied the figures by drawing them - the comic book set
    to my left and the paper to my right - since I´m a righty. I drew them in pencil and then inked them. Unfortunately I threw them all
    away since my father thought this was a waste of time and "I should put that much effort in my maths homework!"

    I did not know that at that time I had put the grounds for the things I am doing now as a grown up and selfconfident person - namely
    learning to see - seeing distances, angles, lengths.

    In my job as a lab technician I wasn´t happy. During apprenticeship we had to make drawings of the objects we saw through the
    microscope. We also were dissecting mice and rats and had to draw the organs, which I did in McFarlane style The people
    told me "Hey, why aren´t you doing arts?"
    My mouth had a reasonably sounding reason for it - but my heart said something else.
    After 7 years in the laboratory I got fired

    During unemployment I grabbed my oil paints I had gotten few years before - I wanted to paint like the old masters ´cause their work
    was fascinating me - not that abstract crap.
    "So where to start?" I thought - I did not even know the term Old Masters to look for it. "Ok, lets take a look into the
    internet!"
    and I found a german forum under all these Bob-Ross forums. This forum only had a few members. I showed them the
    website of someone I considered to be that type of artist I admired (Scott Bartner).

    I said "I want to paint like he does - can you guys show me?". And they could. Some of these members had contact to William
    Whitaker and Bill occasionally left some words of motivation and information in that forum (did you know he speaks some german? ).
    I found out that information on the Old Master techniques is rare in germany and I had to look for it at US websites and english books
    - while parallely practising painting. I improved very fast although I did not practise as much as many others. When I did a new painting
    I first had internalized the information read and then painted with a big step forward. So my output was not that big but quality is what
    counts

    And then (now I come to the part where the reason for this thread is) I found out that there are schools/ateliers where one can study
    the classical atelier way for three years. But there was none in germany and since I already started studying Media Design with focus
    on illustration at a private school with high fees, I could not afford any more money for going there. But I learned how things are taught
    at those ateliers and since I moved to my girlfriend´s home I now have space for setting up my own studio in the basement.

    So here it is - my little pride :
    Classical Atelier at Home

    And I am not lazy. I made two Bargue drawings.
    Classical Atelier at Home Classical Atelier at Home

    But Bargues are just the beginning in classical atelier training as you propably know. I made some plaster casts on my own (one of them an ear) and started cast drawing.

    And here are two version of the ear (color adjusted):
    Classical Atelier at Home Classical Atelier at Home

    And my next goal is this (still have to put up a satisfying light situation):
    Classical Atelier at Home

    I want to say thank you to all of you. I´m glad I found this forum with so many people that are interested in this. And I want to thank MindCandyMan for his "Journey of an absolute rookie" which is inspiring me concerning self motivation and I want to thank Dorian Iten for showing the classical atelier training in detail.

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    Hi and welcome bjoern.

    This is the right place to share your art and learning experiences with the rest of us. It'd be a treat if you starting making this forum one of your "homes" for art.

    The fact you casted your own ear for a drawing shows a lot of dedication.

    Great story too, I think you've found your calling after all those years in a lab. I'm with you in your enthusiasm.

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    dude! welcome!

    What fantastic dedication you have shown by making ur basement into an Atelier! I wish you all the best and would love to see your progress

    All the best good sir

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    Thank you guys for your kind words.

    Seems that you think I´m new to this forum which is not the case (see my registration date)

    I show you some of my older things I´ve done

    This is a sef portrait done in 2006 I think and it serves as my avatar
    It measures about 7"x9,5"
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    I recieved the reference photo of the following from Bill Whitaker
    It´s 20"x27,5"
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    Again reference from Bill
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    A comissioned portrait (don´t know the size anymore)
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    This one is actually the most recently finished and is about 20"x23,5"
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    One of my application drawings for studying media design
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    I will post my progress here - as mentioned next thing is the bust. Then I will do some color studies and then make a still life with few colors and so on

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    very nice work, its awesome that you were able to start pursuing classical training on your own. I always loved the work of the masters when i was young but had no clue how or even that i could possibly reach that level. now I know better and i am getting help from Jon (hardesty). At least i know if i need some more critiques i can come here!

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    Hey that second drawing of the ear isn't half bad! Now as you continue with such a large cast as your next, remember to take your time! Your oil self portrait is good too, the perspective works good on the eyes, maybe not so good on the lips. Keep working man!

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    LumoGraphiteThank you. I Wish you big success working with Jon! I´m not sure if I am the right one to critique - if you meant that - but I love to see the progress of others.

    SerpianThere are several things I learned from the ear cast:
    - use right paper and charcoal - no charcoal pencil
    - on the first version the light was much more dramatic and interesting, the second one lacks it.
    - The light was too bright because due to my low ceiling it was too close to the cast. So there are big areas that are too bright - no smooth transitions, too less midtone area.
    - I did not work with a sponge or brush (as explanied here by Dorian. I will do that on the bust to get rid of the grainy surface of the paper and make the drawing look more finished.
    - take more time - the first one was the quickest, then the second ear took more time.
    - there´s definetly more I learned from it but It doesn´t come to my mind right now.


    Will go downstairs now to see if I can make a good lighting.....

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    i love your dedication!

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    Hi HTML rulez d00d! Thanx for your comment.

    I think it was necessary for me to first work something different so I could learn what I really wanted. Took some years of my live but it was worth it. While I was studying Media Design there where a lot of young people, coming right from school, and they did not take it as seriously as I did. Some of them did not even know what to study after school. And some others were sponsored by their parents.
    Now I do Layout and Graphic Design for the marketing department of an IT Company halftime and the rest of the day will be dedicated to that what I´m showing here.

    Greetz

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    Hi.

    I´ve set up the bust and the lighting. Since the easel can not stand even with the ground
    I´ve mounted a board with the paper on the wall.

    There was also a problem with the light source. If I would use the easel, a second light source
    would be necessary and this would cause problems on the bust since I dont want a second
    light source on the shadow side. So now I can use one light source for the bust and the paper.

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    AND I´ve realised that I had used the wrong side of the paper with the second ear drawing.
    Thats the reason for the grainy look which frustrated me a bit but now I know the reason for it.

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    This is the second day that I´m working on the bust.

    I thought I had quality charcoal - at least the artist shop claim this - but when I draw,
    the charcoal suddenly does not make a line anymore, it only scratches on the paper.
    When I twist it a bit it makes a line again for some more strokes but then it happens
    again until I twist the stick again

    The usual recommendation is Fusains Nitram charcoal but the shop did not have this and
    I did not know how it looks like until few days back when I saw a photo by Dorian Iten in
    this thread of that particular charcoal:

    Fusains Nitram charcoal - Photo by Dorian Iten

    I will look for that type of charcoal the next time I go to that shop. Until then I will work
    with what I have now.

    Here is the WIP of day two:
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    hi bjoern...good going....i liked ur story and efforts.....yeah charles bargue method seems good to learn....actually i was seeking something for foundation studies. Thanks a lot for examples and inspiration.

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    Thank you for your words, charcoal. It´s not very easy without a "Mister Miagi" and I have to learn things the hard way through trial and error.

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