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Ok, we should make it clear in which case one should close his eye. And I am talking about closing the eye when one is measuring a distance.
I close it while I am doing a cast drawing and measure with a plumb line. It is impossible to measure with two eyes while holding the plumb line in front of the subject.
How about yourself? Do you close your left eye most of the time while drawing? Or only occasionally? (when you're stuck or overwhelmed by details).
While doing a life drawing without measuring I use both eyes. If I use the pencil as a plumb line then I close one eye.
So we can sum up that both is valuable and closing one eye is nessesary to measure distances.
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Fortunately, most of us have two functioning eyes. Sometimes it's useful to close one. I think the advantages and disadvantages of stereo vision in drawing have been wildly overstated in this thread.
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How would you paint the illusion of depth without having firsthand, visual knowledge of what it is you intend to mimic? Can you paint gamma rays? I seriously doubt it, since you cannot actually perceive them.
Originally Posted by bjoern3000
After an artist has learned how to properly paint/draw form I can understand being able to paint from a photo reference (say, for an illustration) and faking some details that would lend it depth.
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Stereoscopy is only one of the contributors to the illusion of depth. Edge control can be taught, and proper edges have to be designed, not observed. I find it ironic that every time someone who's color blind posts wondering if they can make it as an artist they're immediately told not to worry, but this thread seems to be saying that anyone who's blind in one eye should hang it up .
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My wife only has one good eye (she couldn't see her hand in front of her face with her other eye), and she finds it incredibly easy to accurately draw from life. This is a just a useless anecdote I know, but I found it interesting... She doesn't practice, she's never kept a sketchbook, the only time she draws is when she's painting (shapes in paint) - yet every once in a while she picks up a pencil and has no trouble getting it all right. She has terrible depth perception - always putting cups down too hard on the table etc - but I believe that it's helped her art, which is very consciously flat, by getting rid of one extra distraction. I'm not sure if she'd have trouble making a painting with a sense of form and depth because she doesn't want to, so she never tries. Still, I'm not going to walk around with an eye patch - checking my plumbline maybe, but that's about it for me personally.
I'm sure that edge control can be aquired by experimentation and studying photos that have already had the depth hard coded in - although surely really good edges would require both design and observation from life? I've only just discovered that edges even existed last year, so I don't know much about them yet though.
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this is amazing and profound...but i don't quite get what you mean by drawing what the other eye see...
Originally Posted by bjoern3000
And what do you mean by drawing accurately? As in, hand eye precision?
Only if you want to reduce yourself into a copy machine.
Originally Posted by bjoern3000
Actual drawing should be done with awareness of 3D form in space, structurally, with attention to round form, even if you are drawing from life with precision. Otherwise you are going to miss a lot of the available information and be prone to produce a flat lifeless copy. Worse, if you don't practice with form in mind and focus on 2D shapes, you'll be dependent on the reference and have a reduced ability to invent compositions.
(P.S. Thanks to the necromancer for unearthing a thread from 2009... duh.)
So - no, that's bad advice.
Interesting discussion. I like to use both one and two eyes. I mostly use one eye when I get tired and I start seeing out of focus (serious sleep disorder, so I have to adapt).
There's no law against using one eye, just as there's no law against squinting, as long as you have a sense of what shapes are like and you also know a bit of theory.
Interesting test I did: when tired your eyes start going out of focus, and your mind has trouble avoiding distractions, which means: when you're drawing a face or portrait,
it can be very difficult to nearly impossible to focus on a single point and its relation to the whole shape.
Also another thing: it's virtually the only solution I've found for what is dubbed 'the artist's curse'. Your mind gets filled with preconceptions when working on an image,
and after a while you can't see mistakes. Closing one eye can work as the equivalent of flipping the image on its head.
I'd say it all depends on the problem you're trying to solve. Screaming off the top of your voice that it's not to be done is pretty cramped and nonsense in my opinion.
Art is about having an idea, a vision and getting that on paper. The human filter is always there, wether you want it or not.
Oh and another thing: 3 dimensional awareness can also fight against you. I seriously had to unlearn the loomis-way of drawing, as everything you draw after it looks like the same boxed human with slight differences in detailing. Essentially you're saying here that someone with on eye could not be an artist even if he or she wanted to, because it would all come out 'copied' from reality. Load of crap if you ask me... since the 'human filter' will always alter reality, wether consciously or subconsciously.
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