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    Spiffy paints and studies

    Crits and comments appreciated, skip to last page for recents


    new update:




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    show me some more

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    reserved

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    Quote Originally Posted by GETBUCK View Post
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    sry I was just getting first post in, I'm still posting new work...

    I really don't know what I'm doing with figures... at all...

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    Envire is looking nice. Studies and pencils need a lot more work. Look into some Bridgman and Loomis books!

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    I was waiting for somebody to mention these, I've done enough lurking to know the names but amazon searches turn up several titles - which one do I pick!?!

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    a study I did, still wanting to know title of loomis or bridgman book to buy

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    a study

    any reply on what Loomis book to buy?

    I will scan my sketchbook soon - got midterms around the corner, portfolios are posted through, lots to post =P

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    hey man CA is where its at keep the sketches coming

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    Figure drawing, for all its worth

    is the title you are looking for its all over the internet and these forums though unless you are dead set on having a copy in real life

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    out from the shadows

    some are studies, others are just random musings

    I've since taken a life drawing class, about 20 4 hour sessions, I'll post some scans when I get around to scanning anything

    I need to start painting daily again =/

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    Talk about a definite improvement!


    I'm interested in seeing how much you have progressed with life drawing/anatomy, it might just inspire me to improve my own skill (or lack thereof) with it as well.

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    back from lurking =P

    study of a technique painting

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    trying to work on figures EVERY day, I have lots more to scan

    I also have a blog with more studies and paintings
    http://blackburn-art.blogspot.com/

    crtique desired

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    more speedpainting

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    hey there man, great digital work! you seem to be doing good with those digital studies, keep those up. as far as the pencil stuff goes, i would just really focus on simple proportions at the moment. try to guage how big the head is compared to the rest of the body, or how far the arms come down on the body, do alot of sketches of this type, but most importantly OBSERVE these things, really try and focus on storing these things into your memory. it will come in handy later on, when your trying to build figures from memory. theres tons of references on human anatomy, and proportions in the forums section, under references. but i would get a book too, something by andrew loomis, or burne hogarth might be good to start out with, then once you become more familiar with proportions, and general shapes of the figure, you may want to delve into some george bridgeman, his book on anatomy "the complete guide to drawing from life" is like my bible. but just keep studying, keep drawing, keep observing, and keep working hard!! youll get there in no time!

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    thanks

    thanks for the advice, I have all of those books and then some, and have been delving through bridgman, the ones I posted are from photographic studies however. I've also taken a life drawing class and am probably gonna take another. You would think I'd be better but I was pretty awful when I started, lol

    heres some recent figure studies:
    EDIT: just realized I reposted some previous ones, heres the ones I meant to post lol:





    and I have more to scan....

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    simple sketches, something a little more finished eventually

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    blech, wip, idk what to do with em

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    I am dissapoint

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    freaking awesome environments! Now push that same skill to character designs too and youll get far

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    thanks for the kind words

    update to this character - I wish I were good at characters =[ /sob

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    some props and random doodles and things





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    I have to say, I like your painting a lot. Only thing bad about them is the Composition. I'd recommend this. I've heard it's good for storyboarding and composition.

    As for your figures, your proportions are off by a lot.

    This is only a suggestion but it's helped a lot of people:

    Try using Andrew Loomis' Figure Drawing for All It's Worth as a start for anatomy. Do NOT get stuck doing Loomis only though, just try his method for bodies.

    Also, for facial features, try to combine them into a face instead of piece by piece, this helps you learn propotions for the human face and they better your faces.

    Last thing: learn the skull. It will greatly help your form in your faces.

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    hm, you've got a strange contrast going on between your digital paintings (they're good), and your pencils, which are quite a bit off.

    looking at your pencils in particular i'd say you're lacking solid foundations - you don't seem to do any construction or development of your forms at all. you'll have to work on that, otherwise you're going to get badly stuck.
    It's harder to tell with your photoshop drawings because there it's much easier to gloss over mistakes with fancy brushes and colours, but your pencils are usually where your true skill shines through.

    loomis is a good recommendation, have a look at how he constructs things in perspective and from primitives. that's the very basics of drawing. hogarth is good for that too, altho his distinct style is hard to understand.
    there's also a process every drawing goes through, from very faint "gesture" lines to a blocking stage of major shapes to more refined final shapes. the idea is to build up a drawing over time so you can correct at every step.

    another tip i think might be useful: always consider the whole drawing. sounds obvious, but most proportion and perspective issues happen when you're drawing one area without considering the whole drawing. for example you might draw part of the head, and get really into it and get excited, but when you're done with it you look at the rest of the body and realise the head was way too small all along. this takes some practice but is incredibly important! with every line you make, consider what it does to the drawing as a whole.

    finally, I think you can improve a ton by watching your lines! you tend to make lots of scribbly hesitant lines to make up your drawings, it looks very scratchy. have a look at mike mattesi's blog (or book, "force"), you'll see what you can achieve with confident, strong lines instead. you'll need to develop your line quality in order to convey weight, force, intent, or direction in your drawings

    phew, that could've easily turned into a really long post

    I hope you don't mind me criticising your work for that long, keep drawing!

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    NeonDuck, trout mix: I downloaded all of the andrew loomis books, is it true they're out of print? I also have a paper edition for bridgman but all his figures are super beef cakes and don't really look "normal" (they're still excellent drawings) but he must be the michelangelo of the figure drawing world, lol

    I appreciate that you guys have taken the time to go through such a critique, probably the most insightful things I've heard in some time. Other art forums I get nothing but good jobs because my paintings far exceed my drawings (on account I've done far more painting study and practice than I have drawing, lol)

    I hope to eventually catch my drawing up to speed, I've also been browsing amazon for some books that may inspire me and give insight on figure drawing & art in general

    Any other names, links, and resources are always appreciated, and insight on what I am doing wrong is very appreciated.

    I wish I could draw with line worth a damn digitally, I'm gonna run out of paper lol

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    watching fheng zhu videos, he inspires me to attempt to refine paintings

    I probably should have made him chopping a tenticle arm off or something, for more interest... oh well...

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    I wanted to add some more for this but don't really know what to do....

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    As others have recommended the classics, I'll throw one out:

    Get Hampton's book on figure invention, that'll help you loads. Wish I had it when I first started, would've saved me a significant amount of time on learning how to draw and construct figures, both from real life and imagination.

    Anyway, your environ in your first post has killer atmosphere. You later environs show good promise. Keep it up!

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