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    Gimp + GPS and + Gimp for Painters

    An often recommended program for people on a budget is Gimp.

    Gimp was developed for *ix systems (linux, unix, etc) but also comes in Windows and Mac platforms.

    If you've used Gimp before you'll notice some of it is lacking in painterly features. Some of this was resolved by installing the Japanese Gimp for Painters.

    The other part of getting Gimp to work a bit better for artists is downloading Gimp Paint Studio (GPS) This was developed by Ramon Miranda and you can see how he utilizes Gimp and "GPS" here http://ramonmirandavisualart.blogspot.com/

    Download it here: http://code.google.com/p/gps-gimp-paint-studio/ It has an English manual and tutorial videos. I would presume it's not too hard for Macs since it's only carrying over brush presets.

    Follow the instructions to also install Gimp for Painters Mac version here: http://gimp-painter.blogspot.com/

    The video linked to where you can get Gimp for Painters and it will still load it in English.

    However, I'd like to make one suggestion versus how Ramon launches Gimp.
    Once you extract the Gimp Painters dir. I'd do the following.

    In the Gimp-Painter Directory, you'll see "home" and "gimp" rename "home" to "_home" Next, is that instead of going to the Gimp folder like he's doing go to the "run_gimp" Script file.

    I renamed it as a shortcut, and changed the icon. Create a shortcut. Once the shortcut is created you can put it on the desktop or drag it to the top part of your start menu (whichever is more convenient).

    Right click to Properties and Change icon. Navigate to the Gimp/bin Folders Gimp-Painter has Chose the icon from Gimp 2.6 or the Gimp Console.

    You can rename the Shortcut to Gimp Painters.

    If my instructions aren't clear and you'd like screenshots of the process let me know.

    Ramon has some videos that outline the process when installing and checking for brush presets, that I'd use. It's in the same spot where you download the GPS.

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    Thanks Arshes Nei!

    I posted the same (more or less) months ago. it's nice to see more people using gimp.

    Sadly for mac users, the creator of the Gimp for painters plug-in is not releasing an Intel version (for now), and the Gimp creators don't include it by default, and well, I don't think we are going to release newer versions of our build in the future .

    I hope Gimp gets better and better, it's a very nice software.

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    I drew 6 apples in 6 different programs and painted 6 too.

    It was just to see the capabilities of all the software out there. Apologies for the quickness of it but just to show that with enough tweaking you can get some results out of each of them.

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    Are those for us to guess?

    My guesses on the painted apples would be:

    1- Gimp
    2- Photoshop
    3- SAI
    4- Painter
    5- Opencanvas
    6- ArtRage

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    Actually they were done for another group doing the "Abortion" debate (ie which is better PS or Painter) so I don't mind the guessing.

    1, 3, 4, and 6 are correct.

    Gimp I'm newly understanding so I didn't have enough time to mess with some of the functions as well. I got tired of the dreary background and went Rainbow in Artrage. I still love its bits of impasto

    I didn't use OC in this one but another freeware program. Photoshop is one of the ones used though.

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    Got mostly right then, was only certain of SAI and AR.

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    Yeah if you don't tweak it enough ArtRage (#6) is pretty apparent imo.

    Gimp (#1) was surprising took a bit for me to figure it out since I have barely used it. (Like my first time in months/years?) I only installed it to help people on certain questions. I think Ramon put in some stuff with Gimp Paint Studio that makes it work better.

    #2 is Artweaver. Painter's bastard GUI cousin? I didn't get much out of it, as like Gimp I've barely used it.

    #3 is Sai of course. I should have let more textures come through but wasn't a big deal.

    #4 is Painter done in Artist's Oils. Still trying to learn .. "Effective" impasto? Something about Paitner's impasto still screams digital.

    #5 is Photoshop. I started messing with the scattering options to get better results

    These were also done in the order I painted them, by the time I hit AR I was like "I don't want to see another fucking apple again!"

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    Hi, you seem to know a lot about gimp. I'm struggling with creating brushes, for one I'm working with a mac and the damn thing doesn't automatically save it in the brushes folder to I have to manually locate it every time, but once I do that it only colours in black, not even in grey. I figured if I use the FG to transparency option it works in colour, but what exactly am I doing wrong? I also downloaded GimpPainter but can't figure out the chinese (or japanese) tutorial so I'm sticking to a traditional round brush with the increment box checked. I also need to know why the size of the brush doesn't increase after a point, or again am I doing something wrong? Please help!

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    http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Image_Pipes/ maybe you can solve some of your problems if you understand about GIMP image pipes. There is a second tutorial on that subject also to be found at http://www.gimp.org/tutorials as well as some other ideas involving scripting.

    The GIMP is kind of "do it yourself" and so you just get a basic package. You can probably google "gimp brush packages for mac" or something and find people who solved your problem for you.

    For those who clicked on this thread because they are hungry for open source solutions I offer this open source vector illustrating program (pretty handy): http://www.inkscape.org and this open source 3d program (interface rather baffling): http://www.blender.org

    I liked the comparison test Arshes Nei.

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    i don't get the instruction because i don't see home in the Gimp in my program files.

    I downloaded GIMP 2.6.7 and the painting patch, how do i apply the patch to GIMP?
    i use windows vista btw.

    i did everything manually by copy and pasting the files to gimp but i can't find some files to replace...

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    I've made an AutoHotKey script for the GPS package for those that are interested.

    I've found that GIMP has significantly improved since I last used it and aside from how slow it is in Windows is now much closer to being a professional grade tool.

    If you don't understand AutoHotKey this script won't make much sense, but if you do you may like it. Of course feel free to tweak it, your tool pallets may be very different from mine. I've found it makes the usability as a painting program much better.

    Code:
    #SingleInstance force
    #NoTrayIcon
    DetectHiddenWindows, On
    
    Run, %programfiles%/GIMP-2.0/bin/gimp-2.6.exe, %programfiles%/GIMP-2.0/bin/
    WinWait, Toolbox
    Sleep, 1000
    
    GIMPHidden = 0
    GIMPHidden2 = 0
    Hover = 0
    Hover2 = 0
    
    SetTimer, AutoHide, 0
    SetTimer, FixWindows, 100
    SetTimer, CloseCheck, 5000
    
    
    ;Changable variables
    TW =		208			;Default Tool Options width
    TH = 		30			;Default Toolbox height
    CH = 		300			;Default Color Picker height
    ;BSize = 	1			;Default work area border size
    ;BColor =	222222			;Default 6digit HEX for border color
    
    ;Changing these varibale will break the script
    WinList = Tool Options|FG/BG|Toolbox|Navigation
    
    CP := A_ScreenHeight - CH - 30		;Color picker position
    TOH := A_ScreenHeight - CH		;Tool options height
    NH := A_ScreenHeight - TH - 30		;Navigator height
    NP := A_ScreenWidth - TW		;Navigator position AND Border box width
    BH := A_ScreenHeight - TH		;Border box height
    
    ;BLw := NP - BSize
    ;BLh := BH - BSize
    ;BTw := TW + BSize
    ;BTh := TH + BSize
    
    ;WB := A_ScreenWidth - BSize
    
    ;Draw work area border
    ;Gui, +LastFound +AlwaysOnTop +Toolwindow +Resize -MaximizeBox -Caption
    ;Gui, Color, %BColor%
    ;Gui, Show, Hide W%A_ScreenWidth% H%A_ScreenHeight% X0 Y0
    ;WinSet, Region, %TW%-%TH% %NP%-%TH% %NP%-%BH% %TW%-%BH% %TW%-%TH%  %BTw%-%BTh% %BLw%-%BTh% %BLw%-%BLh% %BTw%-%BLh% %BTw%-%BTh%
    ;Gui, Show, +NoActivate, BorderBox
    
    
    ;;**********Hotkeys**********
    
    ;Toggle autohide sidebar feature
    #IfWinActive, GNU
    Tab::
    	
    	If GIMPHidden = 0
    	{
    		;WinSet, Region, 0-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%BH% 0-%BH% 0-%TH%  %BSize%-%BTh% %WB%-%BTh% %WB%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BTh%, BorderBox
    		WinHide, Navigation
    		WinHide, Tool Options
    		WinHide, FG/BG
    		GIMPHidden = 1
    		GIMPHidden2 = 1
    	}
    	
    	Else
    	{
    		;WinSet, Region, %TW%-%TH% %NP%-%TH% %NP%-%BH% %TW%-%BH% %TW%-%TH%  %BTw%-%BTh% %BLw%-%BTh% %BLw%-%BLh% %BTw%-%BLh% %BTw%-%BTh%, BorderBox
    		WinShow, Navigation
    		WinShow, Tool Options
    		WinShow, FG/BG
    		GIMPHidden = 0
    		GIMPHidden2 = 0
    	}
    
    return
    
    
    ;;********Subroutines********
    
    
    ;Autohide side bars after tab is activated
    AutoHide:
    
    	MouseGetPos, XM
    	If GIMPHidden = 1
    	{
    		If (XM <= 10 AND Hover = 0)
    		{
    			;WinSet, Region, %TW%-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%BH% %TW%-%BH% %TW%-%TH%  %BTw%-%BTh% %WB%-%BTh% %WB%-%BLh% %BTw%-%BLh% %BTw%-%BTh%, BorderBox
    			WinShow, Tool Options
    			WinShow, FG/BG
    			Hover = 1			
    		}
    			
    		Else If (XM >= TW AND Hover = 1)
    		{
    			;WinSet, Region, 0-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%BH% 0-%BH% 0-%TH%  %BSize%-%BTh% %WB%-%BTh% %WB%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BTh%, BorderBox
    			WinHide, Tool Options
    			WinHide, FG/BG
    			Hover = 0
    		}
    	}
    	
    	If GIMPHidden2 = 1
    	{
    		If (XM >= A_ScreenWidth - 10 AND Hover2 = 0)
    		{
    			;WinSet, Region, 0-%TH% %NP%-%TH% %NP%-%BH% 0-%BH% 0-%TH%  %BSize%-%BTh% %BLw%-%BTh% %BLw%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BTh%, BorderBox
    			WinShow, Navigation
    			Hover2 = 1			
    		}
    
    		Else If (XM <= NP AND Hover2 = 1)
    		{
    			;WinSet, Region, 0-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%TH% %A_ScreenWidth%-%BH% 0-%BH% 0-%TH%  %BSize%-%BTh% %WB%-%BTh% %WB%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BLh% %BSize%-%BTh%, BorderBox
    			WinHide, Navigation
    			Hover2 = 0
    		}
    	}
    
    return
    
    
    ;Fix window styles and positions
    FixWindows:
    
    {
    	Sleep, 10
    	Loop, Parse, WinList,|
    	{
    		WinSet, Style, -0x800000, %A_LoopField%
    		WinSet, Style, -0x400000, %A_LoopField%
    		WinSet, Style, -0x40000, %A_LoopField%		
    	}
    	
    	WinMove, Toolbox,,0,0,%A_ScreenWidth%,%TH%
    	WinSet, Region, 0-0 W%A_ScreenWidth% H%TH%, Toolbox
    	
    	WinMove, Tool Options,,0,%TH%,%TW%,%TOH%
    	WinSet, Region, 0-0 W%TW% H%TOH%, Tool Options
    	
    	WinMove, FG/BG,,0,%CP%,%TW%,%CH%
    	Winset, Region, 0-60 W%TW% H%CH%, FG/BG
    	
    	WinMove, Navigation,,%NP%,%TH%,%TW%,%NH%
    	Winset, Region, 0-0 W%TW% H%NH%, Navigation
    
    	
    	SetTimer, FixWindows, 1000
    	return
    }
    
    return
    
    
    ;Check if GIMP has closed and close script with it
    CloseCheck:
    
    {
    	IfWinExist, ahk_class gdkWindowToplevel
    		{
    			return
    		}
    	Else
    		{
    			ExitApp
    		}
    }
    
    return


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    I'm interested in using this, but how do I install these?

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    I installed GPS, but I don't know how to use it now XD

    The interface is so changed from GIMP normally, is there a tutorial I can use?

    Also, where can I find Gimp for painters for windows?

    EDIT: Ack, sorry about the double post.

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    If I'm thinking of the right thing- in the brush options, on the bottom there is an icon called "restore options from..." click on it and you will see the GPS brushes. Not the most optimal way to access them, but that's where they should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Q Lethargic View Post
    If I'm thinking of the right thing- in the brush options, on the bottom there is an icon called "restore options from..." click on it and you will see the GPS brushes. Not the most optimal way to access them, but that's where they should be.
    Some tinkering later and I think I can access and use most of the new stuff. Though i'm still looking for the GIMP for painters thing for windows.

    Also, I installed GIMP on a flash drive (normal gimp, not portable, I merely selected a folder E drive as the install location) back when I updated my home version last, and I works fine.

    However, I only have what would be in the "program files" area on the flash drive for GIMP, so I can't install GPS on it in the way the tutorial shows how.

    Is there still a way for me to do it?

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    Cool

    Hi there, Im new here and a real beginner. My problem is that recently I added GPS to my Gimp studio and now I can't see the little circle on my mouse pointer that tells me how big my brush is going to be. Now I have to paint first to find out....and all my accuracy is trial and error. I love asll the new brushes but to me it's more than useless without this feature. Any suggestions?
    Thanks in anticipation.

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    any tips for a sai user who used to use ps considering switching to gimp?

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    Gimp 2.8 (Release Candidate 1) available for Windows

    http://www.gimpusers.com/downloads

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