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    Love Tank: Spreadin the Love

    EDIT: New philosophy on art and life
    So it's been well over six months since I've updated this sketchbook. Shame on me. It doesn't mean I haven't been drawing! But I also haven't been improving like I wanted to, and I couldn't understand why. It's been really frusterating, until about two weeks ago I realized - The essence of art is form and structure not anatomy and lines alone! All this time I thought that anatomy would make pretty drawings for me, but I learn all the parts of a skull, and go to draw a face... my knowledge of a skull dissapears, because I face isn't a skull!

    So I decided the entire way I approach art has to be different, and it's been tough. I am going to go back to basics instead of spending another 20 years biting off more than I can chew and not improving.

    And no more self loathing! Every art piece I will ever do will be a failure, because it wont be the best that I can make it. There will ALWAYS be something I can improve on or do better on. However that doesn't mean my drawings and renderings can't be successes, because they will be successful if I actually DO improve on those things. So if I look at art this way, nothing is a failure and it all is steps towards finally making an artist out of me.

    So my new focus has been form, form, form.

    What I need from you guys-

    Please tell me where I'm having trouble, show me the problems, encourage me where I'm succeeding, but most importantly - tear this stuff to shreds.



    Okay, so here's a background-

    I haven't drawn in years. I was a digital animation major, but found out - I don't like spending 12 hours a day staring a computer screen. But I do enjoy drawing, and I miss it, so I've started back again.

    I've already posted this sketch in the critique thread, but I think I'll post it here too. Please critique anatomy, form... and pose. His name is edward. He's something of a bisexual, very slight effeminate thief. The sword is meant to be a bit of a phallic symbol, showing his bravado. I want to do more with this image, eventually turning it into a painting. Think the phallic imagery is oevr the top? I've never tried using any kind of sexual symbolism before .

    Also, is his pose effeminate?

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    And... I also drew some grafiti today, because I've never tried that. It was actually a lot of fun - Love Tank: Spreadin the Love

    The perspective on the nose, and other features is meant to be off in kind of an avante-garde way. Does it work, or does it look like I'm bad at what I'm doing?

    I wanted to draw graffiti, and couldn't really think of any symbolism to use, but this is what I came up with off hand- the word is ROME, and... I dunno... something about a fallen city as it relates to Rome? Meh... whatev it's graffiti.
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    Hey guys, so for the next little while I'm going to be pushing hard core my drawing from life skills... which completely suck. I may for good measure throw in something else every now and then, but mainly - life and facial drawings.

    I need to improve, and I need to see my improvement, and dare I admit it - I really want you guys to see my improvement too.

    Here goes, today I've been trying to sketch a likeness from a face using different methods, all of my attempts have similar issues (the photos in this post are copyright of Mark Edward Smith, from his book "The Nude Figure - A Visual Reference for the Artist.")

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    attempt 1 - Love Tank: Spreadin the Love

    attempt 2... that I gave up on - Love Tank: Spreadin the Love

    final attempt - Love Tank: Spreadin the Love




    and here's a sketch I did the other night, from this photograph-

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    This is an example of me using a photo as a reference only, not trying to draw the actual photo (though I followed the pose pretty closely... or tried to).

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    Drawing from life and references is the toughest thing for me in art, but I feel like I need to get over that if I'm going to improve in any other areas.

    So if anyone could help me out, I would love you forever.

    P.S. Sorry about the horrible scans, my scanner was built in the 1800s and I used an h4 pencil, which in the future I'll use a much darker pencil.
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    I saw your topic in Critique Center and came here - because I can't give any useful advice I fear, I just wished to tell you I know your pain...
    I started drawing a few years ago, mostly faces, sometimes figures... and I still can't draw anything decent by myself. Maybe a profile view face, but 3/4 view - I ALWAYS mess it up. I practice too little but I try and learned A LOT and still I'm very bad. Something is missing.
    Drawing is a mysterious thing, it's insanely difficult to me. I always learned quickly but I tend to forgot my anatomy knowledge with an incredible speed...

    {Well, I usually can _copy_. Except delicate expressions and other harder stuff. But I want to be able to _draw_ by myself.}

    In my case, my very strict inner critic makes my life harder too and it seems your standards are high too and you too have an eye for flaws... I've seen many with less skills than you and they were confident and had no idea they have HUGE problems.
    I'm glad I'm not some brave and confident but really bad artist-wannabe... still, it's tough in the beginning. We need to draw a lot, no matter what insults the inner critic shouts...
    Well I just assume things, I don't know enough about you. I may write too much blurb but I really want to help even if I can't...

    Don't give up, of course! Practice, study from different sources and show us the results. I want to see your improvement too

    Drawing faces. I've read a few books and tutorials about it... There are no easy way, at least for me. One must try again and again, without loosing heart...
    I don't believe one CAN'T learn to draw decent pictures if he/she really desire for it and put efforts into it for a long time.
    I'm stubborn and I need that.

    Best wishes!
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    Cheers shinn! That was a really thoughtful response, and in a lot of ways it's true. Damn inner critic, I have a love/hate relationship with that douche bag. The thing is, I get it in my head that "I can't improve on this" and then I don't. But I also don't practice drawing from life, so there you go.

    So this morning's sketches should prove that if I can do it, anyone can. I'm kinda proud of them to be honest, not because they are "good," but because they have solid improvements from my last post.

    Thank you deviant art for the completely random face pics.

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    Sketch 2-

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    More to come!
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    I don't know if you wish to draw digitally, I just talk about my own experience...
    I always had difficulties with lines (somehow I can't control them as much as I wish - except in paper but there I fill everything with dark strokes ), my value stuies seem to be more successful - and more realistic, of course. There are no such thing as line in real life, after all
    Just an idea, but the most important thing that you should keep practice and post (even if your scanner isn't great )
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    You seems to dive in straight to human forms and figures, which can be a daunting exercise, for its’ complex forms and shapes. Suggestions, study anatomy, especially those that illustrate how to break down complex forms and shapes into simpler ones. by doing those exercises and hopefully a better grasp of forms then you'll see amazing improvement (as oppose to your incrimental improvement) in your photo reference exercises, as you'll be better equipped, observation ability wise, to decipher the complex forms shown in 2D, process it within yourself and representing it the way you "know it" again. Hope all these make sense...


    btw, thnx for stoping by my sketchbook. hav fun
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    Shin Yea, I'd love to get into digital art. I don't have any of the equipment for it though .

    Zenichi Thanks for the reply , I'll definitely listen to your advice, given that I respect your work a great deal. It's been a looooooong time since I've done real anatomy studies, so it never hurts to do them again.

    And my update for the night - Love Tank: Spreadin the Love

    ^ took a break from facial studies for the night and went for a 70s themed cigarette chick. Hey, Girl's gotta smoke right?
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    No, smoking is unhealthy! And it doesn't make her happy, look at her expression!
    I like it, good job, maybe the hand could be a bit better (I think she had more delicate fingers in the ad), I don't know the original though.
    Keep it up
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    I would say don't draw only from photo, you can draw also from life and from mind, you'll learn a lot also in this way. The stuff is to don't do the same type of work two time, it'll be useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiNIN View Post
    No, smoking is unhealthy! And it doesn't make her happy, look at her expression!
    I like it, good job, maybe the hand could be a bit better (I think she had more delicate fingers in the ad), I don't know the original though.
    Keep it up
    Careful, she'll cut a bitch! haha.

    And I really only used one old 70s advertisement as reference for this, primarily the hand. It was just a photograph, nothing abstract about it, but it was helpful in drawing African features. I'll try and scan it on my next update.
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    k, today's update. I tried to do some studies mostly today, and I feel like they are paying off already.

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    and my face study today-

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    Still not a decent likeness, but learning to construct these heads from the ground up certainly took me farther with this head than the others I thought. I also didn't feel lost while doing this as I did the others.
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    Keep hammering those studies. Your line weight is nice and confident.
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    Thanks fourton!

    Update for the night -

    Some cyberpunk thing I had a brainflash of. Prolly wont do anything with it, but here ya go. It was fun to draw either way.

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    and my face study... gotta find more time to do more studies... I spend a flippin hour doing searches through deviant art for a good face, only to find out I have to leave for work.

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