A discussion about figure drawing I had.

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    A discussion about figure drawing I had.

    I am working as a regular extra for a TV sitcom. I showed my figure drawings from various workshops to fellow extras. a few used to work as models, and one gentleman was really curious about it. He asked me if I feel OK with all the models in the buff in the classroom. My answer was "Not really.". And one lady backed that there's nothing sexual about figure drawing.

    Well, that's mostly true.

    I've heard stories about some models asked not to comeback to a workshop because they make really revealing poses. In some rare cases some models are really stunning but don't know how to pose well, so they end up posing like Playboy Playmates.

    And some models are...not so self conscious. Years ago I went to a big workshop/party and one stunning model posed with really revealing poses constantly, exposing everything. I mean, everything. And the model was a really stunning girl. But I never saw her ever again. Maybe she moved onto acting or something.

    And I know of a certain once-instructor at one prestigious art school who nailed a bunch of figure models. And he didn't even sound like a lothario or something. He always sounded dazed and stoned. And this one particular model constantly monologues about all the relationships she had with various painters and other artists.

    So the stereotype is not entirely false. And that was what I told to that gentleman on the set. "Well, the stereotype is not entirely false, you know..."

    And me and other artists used to joke about marrying models so that we can draw them all the time.

    And no, I am not making things up. What happened was what happened and all the discussions actually happened. Yep, sensitive issue.

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    Just because some people don't know how to pose does not mean that nude modeling = sexual. The fact that they were not asked to come back tells something doesn't it?

    And just because some professor "nailed" (as you so eloquently put it) some models doesn't make the act of nude modeling sexual either... By that logic ANYTHING could be sexual. If some guy does volunteer work to hook up with volunteer chicks, does that mean volunteer work is a sexual activity? No.

    Finally, just because some model likes to date artists doesn't prove anything either. Some people are attracted to certain types of people. Plus, if you do a lot of modeling, the majority of people you're going to meet are...artists! So yeah, kinda flavors the dating pool a bit.

    So yeah...really not convinced by your arguments there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphotic Phoenix View Post
    Just because some people don't know how to pose does not mean that nude modeling = sexual. The fact that they were not asked to come back tells something doesn't it?

    And just because some professor "nailed" (as you so eloquently put it) some models doesn't make the act of nude modeling sexual either... By that logic ANYTHING could be sexual. If some guy does volunteer work to hook up with volunteer chicks, does that mean volunteer work is a sexual activity? No.

    Finally, just because some model likes to date artists doesn't prove anything either. Some people are attracted to certain types of people. Plus, if you do a lot of modeling, the majority of people you're going to meet are...artists! So yeah, kinda flavors the dating pool a bit.

    So yeah...really not convinced by your arguments there.
    You are right. And I am just talking about what happened around me. I am not making any statement.

    Maybe this is better for a blog.

    Some models are asked not to come back because they are lousy models. (all the stiff poses...) But one model I drew acted so weird. She looked like some has-been pornstar and she smelled of alcohol. And for some reason she was more than eager to work privately with artists. Well, fortunately such situation never happened again. I dunno...I am usually conversational like this, which is not a good writing style...

    Honestly, I simply go to workshop to brush up my drawing skill. Drawing models is a chore to me. I get sick of it pretty quickly.

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    Well yeah sometimes what happens is, that people who usually trying to become actors or such will see ads for people requesting models. Some places are pretty good about screening the models they get. People think model=need hot person to show up. A model can be just about anyone honestly. I had quite a few models that were elderly which was great. Some were a bit overweight, and some were skinny.

    I never found it to be sexual but I have found the experience to be beautiful.

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    Drawing elderly people is great! Their body landscape is so interesting and has a lot of definitions. And some overweight models have virtually no definitions on their bodies, so they are the least favorite.

    The kind of male models I'd like to draw are the ones who are built like Doug Jones. Skinny people are very interesting to draw, too.

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    I'm not fond of drawing, but sometimes when I have free time and inspiration I prefer to fraw nature, flowers, animals and so on.

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    Hey gogidolim, if you don't mind, how did you get the job for the extra and how much did you get paid per hour?

    By TV extra, I assume you're like one of those guys who walk past the main actors, or the gardener in the background doing some bush-trimming while the main actors talk in the foreground?

    I can say being a TV extra = super interesting job
    It's like being an actor without the stress. Cool!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon_OND View Post
    Hey gogidolim, if you don't mind, how did you get the job for the extra and how much did you get paid per hour?

    By TV extra, I assume you're like one of those guys who walk past the main actors, or the gardener in the background doing some bush-trimming while the main actors talk in the foreground?

    I can say being a TV extra = super interesting job
    It's like being an actor without the stress. Cool!!!!!
    Basically it's a minimum wage job with decent overtime pay. And it's really, really boring. If you are union, you will get paid much more.

    I work 12~14 hours a day usually, and 3~4 days a week. And it's a very demanding job.

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