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August 8th, 2009 #1
Are my reasons enough as is needed to do art.
The main reason i'm on the art path is that i need to do SOMETHING in life. And since i would be doing art even if i became a cat burglar i might as well become an artist and kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
But also, i don't want to be a tramp on the street, i don't want to die and be a distant memory, i don't want to be uneeded, and i dont want to be a let down on anyone who does need me. So i'm gonna need some sort of profession.
I can't be the man who feeds his family working solely at McDs his whole life. If i worked at McDs while being an artist then maybe.
I'm aiming to become an artist because i mostly love but somtimes like art, and because i'm going to need to survive somehow, and so i'm not a disappointment to my family.
So do you think this is enough reason to pursue a career in art?
And at my age, will there be any point is trying?
Last edited by ZenzybaR; August 8th, 2009 at 08:03 PM.
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No, there is no point, do one. Begone.
August 8th, 2009 #3And at my age, will there be any point is trying?
(I'm 49, by the way )
August 8th, 2009 #4
Yes, yes they are………Dude…save the melodrama for your sketchbook…while your asking this question your competition is out there drawing. Don't waste time second guessing your passion (if in fact it is your passion)…all you do is open yourself to ridicule and sarcasm…DRAW! and make it happen or you'll forever be stuck at that McJob."It's better to have Heart than technique, you can be taught technique." (Frank Trigg -- MMA Fighter on the subject of fundamentals)
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August 8th, 2009 #5
Musselfarmstudios: lol, thanks for the motivation, i should think like that more.
dcorc: Are you starting to a path in an art as well? I mean, i know anyone can start art at any age for fun, but since im aiming to do it full time, i want to know if it's worth the journey.
I don't work at McDs at the moment. I'd work at McDs to help put myself through the art course i'm going on next month if there was an opening.
I have worked at McDs in the past and its all work and little pay. My payment was all accounted for before i got it. If i was lucky and got £3 surplus i'd buy a new pencil and comic book. I forgot how happy i was to get a new 50p pencil back then. It almost makes me want to cry lol.
What i mean is, at this age, is it worth it? Yes people are going to say "It's about the passion yo, if you dont love it then don't do it." But can i feed my hypothetical family off art starting at this age. Will my hypothetical kids complain and call me a bastard father and incompetent because i started art at such a late age. Will my wife sleep with the banker behind my back so we can pay last months rent.
These are my concerns.
I read the thread with the guy saying 40,000 a year and stuff just now. It helped a little but his was a different question.
August 8th, 2009 #6
August 8th, 2009 #7
Let's see. Most decent artists start to take their art seriously around the age of 16-18.
Mostly 18. Before that they mostly doodled and didn't improve their level very much.
So at 21, you'll have to work an additional 4-6 years before you retire when compared to people who started early.
You be the judge if that is reasonable.
Also, if you want to do art as a living, and not be a teacher, go to an atelier, not a public school.
And life isn't a Charles Dickens novel.
August 8th, 2009 #8
Hyskoa: That makes sense, i guess. But i've always read, "since i was a kid". Unless "kid" is 16-18 to these people. I never thought about it that way. Kid is 8 to me.
Also i'm going to a college with a separate art department. I've heard they're are decent. Is this sufficient. Also the course is 1 intensive year of art and design. Then i'm going to do something higher, this is just to give me a better chance getting onto a higher level course. I'm actually under qualified for the course and had to do an interview. She didnt want to take me at first. But then she changed her mind. I think it might have been that i said "i'm going to keep drawing, and i'll get better. So even if this college or any others don't accept me then i'll keep going on my own and make it." She said she'd give me a chance so i'm happy with that.
The course is Foundation Degree is Art and Design (Deploma). I don't know what it means but i can get higher up with it so whatever.
I've also never heard of an atelier until you posted it. I've only been on CA properly since about 3 months ago even though my account is old.
Elwell: Thanks for posting that link. It was a great read. Exactly the kind of thing i needed to see.
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August 8th, 2009 #9
I looked at your sketchbook, and it's pretty good. Keep at it and maybe one day you can make money off your talents, if not go into graphic design. lolz
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August 8th, 2009 #10
Depends how committed you are, really, doesn't it. Read the thread that Elwell linked to, above.
There are certainly people who've started far older than you who become professional artists.
For someone a little older than you, when he started, there's no more needs to be said here than Mindcandyman
check out where he started, and where he's got to, now.
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August 8th, 2009 #11
Dcorc: thanks for the link, its good to see someone improve over time.
Flake: Man whats your problem. You came with your, i hope, "tough love" and i didn't like it. Why are you trying to turn it into something!? I came asking advice from people who have been through or who might know what i want to know. I need to make the right choices and failure will leave me in a VERY bad position. I don't know your circumstances, so maybe you have a nice life where you can get what you want easily, but right now, 4 wasted years is not an option. So go watch your UFC. i bet you boo whenever Machida wins cause he doesn't provide your nonsense.
August 8th, 2009 #12
Flake - I know that for those of us who've been around here a while, this thread seems rather "same old, same old" - but its obviously not so for the original poster.
As you well know, much of the art "education" in the UK isn't worthy of the name, so its hardly surprising we get people coming along feeling rather confused, unsure, and uninformed.
August 8th, 2009 #13
Fairy nuff Dave, I'll shoosh.
August 9th, 2009 #14
This isn't a criticism of the OP but I just wonder where people get the idea that at 21, they're too old to consider starting. Someone must be putting it about, so come on, who is it? At 21 it would be another 14 years until I picked up a metaphorical pencil, so whoever it is I'm glad I never listened to them.
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August 9th, 2009 #15I just wonder where people get the idea that at 21, they're too old to consider starting.
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