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    HEEEYYYYYYYY AAAAARROOOONNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!1

    Glad to see you postin dude. I like the concept so far there dude. Try out different things with him/ or even her if you want (Sexy halfelf battlemage chick sounds hot).

    Maybe even working with the layers to help you out with the guide lines, I pretty much did the same thing with my thumbs, build a basic framework and then dressed it with heavy armor and coats and whatnot.

    Tim that is an awesome vid there.

    And thanks for the IM there Debbie

    A couple modifications to the last thumbs plus some more; remember if there's pieces and parts you like and don't like, let me know I can play butcher!

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    Excellent CD!

    I am kinda liking the guy on the far left, top row of the second set (long hair, sword in hand). He just seems to fit into our theme so well.

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    Update for Foxtayl ......

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    Shawn - great sketches, I agree with Debbie I like the guy with the long hair, but I also really like the helmet you drew on the guy in the first sketch. Looking forward to see which one you go with.

    Debbie - She is really coming along! If I were to offer a bit of advice, the head is a tiny bit small, may want to make it a bit bigger. Other than that loving it, keep it up!

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    Another Foxtayl Update .....

    Last edited by Razorleaf; August 10th, 2009 at 04:22 PM.
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    Heres my first sketch for my evil character ......... Silverfrost Icemoon. But I'm think I am going to try something rather unique (unique for me anyway hahaha).

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    frigid dude in the middle of arctic hell

    Debbie, your foxes are getting hot there gal!

    Here's a bit more rendered image of the Arctic Swordsman

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    Shawn says:
    Hello hello
    Debbie says:
    Hi, I was about to give up on you guys
    Shawn says:
    Sorry bout runnin late, had a drier that I had to fix up
    Debbie says:
    No prob
    Shawn says:
    So hows been everything
    good I hope
    Debbie says:
    Have you checked the sketchbook today
    Shawn says:
    I checked and I like what I see
    Debbie says:
    Did you make any posts?
    Shawn says:
    Not yet but I was about too. Got the long haired dude a little more rendered, trying out a grisalle technique ~ kinda
    Debbie says:
    Great!
    I can't wait to see him
    Did you get the emails I fed from Daestwen?
    oops sorry .... forwarded from Daestwen
    Shawn says:
    The IM's yep
    Debbie says:
    good
    So we are now all on the same page
    I was thinking .... why don't we do 4 good characters and then one group image, and then 4 evil characters and another group image.
    I see other teams doing it and I think it will make for a great final setup
    That way we can have to backgrounds to work from
    oops sorry "two" background
    Shawn says:
    I'm sorry debbie, but unfortunately we can't do so. If you check Team Baguette's Final image here ; http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=156801
    I believe that's how daestwin wished it to be.
    Although a couple images in the sketchbook akin to what you are talking of wouldn't be a big problem
    Debbie says:
    In the last team chow they only one set of characters to do, so of course there would only be one final image. But this time we have two sets. If we do not do two separate final images then how do you propose we do it?
    Shawn says:
    I think one final image could be done, it's just a matter of layout
    four top four bottom
    two columns or pull a 9 square area and have one of the empty panels with something involving the team
    Debbie says:
    Oh no .... really ... I don't see anyone else doing that. We want to make the layout appealing to both good and evil characters.
    Do you mean for individual characters or the group image
    Shawn says:
    The group image
    the final image
    sorry
    Debbie says:
    Everyone else is doing side-by-side characters.
    For their final image I mean
    Shawn says:
    I'll have to see myself
    Debbie says:
    ok
    Are you looking?
    Shawn says:
    yep, that and trying to post my image in the SB
    Debbie says:
    Team Thundercats is coming along great but they are very high-fantasy
    ok
    oops "aren't very high-fantasy
    They look like everyday characters to me even though they are done extremely well
    Shawn he is coming along GREAT!
    I especially like the realism
    Shawn says:
    Thank you I try
    I'm still a bit wary of how I'm going to play with the color, I seen techniques that someone had on youtube involving color dodge but I dunno
    Debbie says:
    Just go slow and Tim, Aaron and I will help you along the way
    Shawn says:
    hehehehe thank you
    I;m mostly trying concepts I seen in the underpainting thread in the forum
    Debbie says:
    Good idea ....
    So are you going to have any kind of background with yours
    Who are we going to get to do the group image
    Shawn you type to damn slow ..... hahahahah
    Shawn says:
    I know
    Debbie says:
    Com'on boy faster faster .....
    Shawn says:
    If it's three words or less I can do it but otherwise
    Debbie says:
    Can you do an audio conference call?
    Shawn says:
    nope sorry... I tried to work the headset but it's boned
    I
    Debbie says:
    ok, no prob
    Shawn says:
    I'd have to remove the old solder first and that has a possiblity of fucking the little chip that connects the usb to the computer
    Debbie says:
    ok
    Shawn says:
    Sorry if you don't care for the cursing (son of a navy man with Irish bloodlines and all that)
    Debbie says:
    hahahahah, I know you said already. Thats some heritage you got there
    Shawn says:
    Have you seen 30 days of night?
    Debbie says:
    ok, so focus......how are we going to do our finals
    Yes, I am too damn sick of zombie slash vampire movies
    Hey do you wtch True Blood
    Shawn says:
    sorry I'm making you lose focus, but the conditions in that movie reflect the conditions we are trying to emulate. and no I haven't seen true blood... don't have those expensive channels.
    Debbie says:
    Hey, I watch it online
    Shawn says:
    I'll check it out when I can then
    Debbie says:
    You are going for a more urban arctic than I am. I am going for something more desolate
    Shawn says:
    I'm just figuring that even the arctic has a varying degree of civilization
    Debbie says:
    True
    But do our characters fit into it
    Shawn says:
    I think they all do
    Debbie says:
    I know mine and Tims probably don't ..... and some to think of it, yours doesn't really either
    REALLY! hahahhaahhaah
    What kind of background do you see Tims character in
    Shawn says:
    I think he's gonna be good to have around a icy slope near some water
    Debbie says:
    I see a isolated little village ... something out of Conan .... all covered in snow with dogs barking and small fires everywhere
    Did you read the summary of the novel I am writing that I posted in our sketchbook?
    Shawn says:
    yep, but I think things have changed as we worked on this so it might be incompatible with the characters...
    Debbie says:
    ok
    Shawn says:
    Although I think your method of writing could be used very well.
    Debbie says:
    As for as our timeline goes ... I was thinking 10 days for our good characters and 10 days for our evil characters and the 10 days to finish our finals. But at the rate we are going I don't even know if we will finish in time
    oh Thank you .......
    Aaron already asked me to do the write-ups
    Is that ok with you
    Shawn says:
    I was mostly thinking the final week be the best time to work on finals, but the first two would be time that we could spend organizing the thoughts and getting some thumbnails and roughs done and then on the third week we all get our final image figured out and fourth week we execute. Considering that august ends the 31st, we still have a bit of time.
    Debbie says:
    I hope you are right!
    Shawn says:
    Well with the roughs we could bring them up to the level polish people are expecting through the last week there.
    Debbie says:
    The only trouble is we have to do two of everything
    Shawn says:
    It's still good, just gotta be diligent
    Debbie says:
    ok, I won't worry
    OK, back to the final image design
    The reason I am making such a big deal out if it is because of the lighting. If we all have the light source the same then merging our final images will not be so hard.
    But if we all have different light sources then final image will look rediculous
    I went for a top left hand corner, and I will probably do the opposite for my evil character
    Shawn says:
    I think mostly if the images are good regardless of common lighting, it will all still work out well.
    Debbie says:
    But the should be consistent in the final image ... people (judges) will be able to tell easily if we have not come togther on this point
    Some of the other teams are doing incredible backgrounds with the individual images which allows them great flexibility but they are consistent in the final image
    And speaking of finals ...... what should I put down for you "job" in the team
    Shawn says:
    I wouldn't mind being the secretary
    Debbie says:
    oops nope I already got yours .... its Aaron's that I don't have
    You ARE secretary hahahahahahaha
    Shawn says:
    sorry I'm having a bit of cerebral flatulence
    Debbie says:
    me too hahahahaha
    Shawn says:
    *brainfart* CALL KGB
    Debbie says:
    ok, well for now I am simply going to finish my characters
    I will have a top left hand corner for my good character and a top right hand corner for my evil character
    hang on Shawn i will be right back ok
    Shawn says:
    ok
    I was thinking the two rows probably be best personally, having good on top and bad on the bottom (pushing the polar opposites)
    Debbie says:
    I'm back
    Do you mena for you final image
    The final image has one background and all the characters on it.....
    Shawn says:
    I was thinking about the teams final image.
    Debbie says:
    How can you have them on top of each other and still have it make sense
    Shawn says:
    But our individual finals we could have side by side
    Debbie says:
    oh ...
    Shawn says:
    Or a straight row of 8 with the good placements mirroring the evil
    G1 g2 g3 g4 e4 e3 e2 e1
    Debbie says:
    YES, I think I get it. ok, I will have one panel for my characters but two separate image - both facing each other.
    Shawn says:
    I think that the images still have to be separate though
    Debbie says:
    so the G1 thing is for the final image ..... right!?
    Shawn says:
    No it's supposed to be good dude 1.2.3.and 4 with evil dude 4 next to Good dude 4 and going backwards from there
    Evil dude 4 3 2 and 1
    Debbie says:
    Shawn are you talking about the final image?
    Shawn says:
    yep
    Debbie says:
    oh good
    Shawn says:
    sorry
    I tend to go on different tangents alot
    Debbie says:
    ok then i think I understand what you are talking about and yes, I agree with your format
    Shawn says:
    I think the layout would be best to show the characters on equal ground rather than good over evil
    Debbie says:
    ok ... so then my idea about the light will work great then
    and having my good character face right and my evil character face left is going to work really good too
    ok, I'm all set
    Shawn says:
    I think we should really get a good look at the reference that ms Daestwin gave us, I see the lighting and color is all different, various and unique in each, yet all coincide with each other
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...0&postcount=12
    The final post of the winners of last TChow
    Debbie says:
    ok, Shawn in the example you just gave me that team submitted one final image broken up into panels, each with its own background and light source
    I am talking something different .....
    Other teams did one background with the characters all placed in it, and that is what I think we should do. Picture x-men face off ...... good on one side facing evil on the other.
    Shawn says:
    I'm sorry give me just a second, I have to give my dog his meds.
    Debbie says:
    hahahah ...... ok
    Shawn says:
    I'm back, anyhow. I was mostly concerned with how Daestwin wanted us to organize the final image. and considering her example we should definately follow suit. I would hate to see us disqualified for something as small as how the thing is set up
    It could make a difference in how things are voted on too
    Debbie says:
    What example ...... the only example she gave us was the one done by the man in Asia
    The example you gave me is not in the description anywhere
    Shawn says:
    But it was the example that Daestwin gave us in the pm that you sent to us
    If I recall
    Debbie says:
    hang on I'm going to re-read it
    Shawn says:
    "You will need eight seperate images, as well as a combined image, but this time please do the combined image as simply all eight lined up, like team baguette's entry in the last team chow."
    Debbie says:
    oh , ok !!
    So then I have nothing to worry about
    Shawn says:
    Yep we can have all unique lighting situations and even some difference in palettes, just as long as things look similar enough to work
    Debbie says:
    Cool .... that works for me !
    Shawn says:
    So now we have our final image all situated, I'll do a quicky sketch describing it. so that everyone is on the good footing with everything
    Debbie says:
    YES! Excellent Mr. Secretary hahahhahahaahahahhh
    Shawn says:
    Awesome
    Debbie says:
    ok, I'm happy now ........ so then we are done for tonight right?
    Shawn says:
    If you wish, I have all night long to work
    Debbie says:
    Will you please post this to the sketchbook for the others
    Shawn says:
    alrighty
    Debbie says:
    I'd like to chat more but it is 9:20 here and I still have a ton of things to do
    Shawn says:
    Ok
    It's all good
    Debbie says:
    So when will the next meeting be
    Shawn says:
    maybe wednesday...
    sorry I could never spell that day correct
    Debbie says:
    Lets make it Thursday this time....it will give the other two more time
    Shawn says:
    And it won't be friday so they might be more able to join in the conversation
    Debbie says:
    Yes, right!
    How much drama/action are putting into your images
    Shawn says:
    I'll try my best to have as much as possible but I don't want the drama to overtake the character's appearance
    I'd like to have the evil dude standing over a fire as if he was a leader of a raider group
    Debbie says:
    My characters lack action .... so this time I'm thinking on doing somthing a bit over-the-top for me.
    Ya, thats a good idea shawn
    Shawn says:
    I'd say do some thumbnails of different gestures and see which one pops up more for you
    Debbie says:
    I don't think that will work this time around ..... I'm thinking on doing something that has less substance and more glow
    I dont' know ..... I will work on it and see
    Shawn says:
    It's all good
    Debbie says:
    ok, talk to you on Thursday - same time
    Shawn says:
    Awesome, I'll write it out on the end of the post
    Debbie says:
    ok
    Shawn says:
    Hopefully we'll all get together this next time
    Debbie says:
    Ya, that would be nice
    Still, you and me make a great team .......
    Shawn says:
    I try my best, I'll see if Aaron or Tim decide to chat anytime tonight
    Debbie says:
    Are they online
    Shawn says:
    That's a negative....
    Debbie says:
    hhahhahaahahahha ..... ok then
    I hope to see some of your stuff posted to the sketchbook tmoroow
    oops tomorrow hahaha
    Shawn says:
    Alright then I'll do my best to work something out
    Debbie says:
    Nice
    Shawn says:
    I'd really like to get some color experiments going with it
    Hmm' it looks like it started raining outside
    Debbie says:
    Now that the final desgin issues have been ironed out, I think we have plenty of time to mess around with things.
    Hey, thats all it does here in Nova Scotia is rain.
    ok Shawn .... ttyl
    Shawn says:
    At least you don't have to deal with kentucky's muggy augusts'

    If you have leather seats and bare flesh.... you literally have to grab a spatula to peel yourself from it
    Debbie says:
    Hahahahahahahah ..............you are funny Shawn and i would luv to chat more but i really do have to go.
    Shawn says:
    Alright, Have a good one!
    Debbie says:
    Good night! :0

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    Alrighty then Lady and Gent's we have found out how the final image lineup will work out; All of em are going to be lined up panels of individual characters (thanks Daestwin)

    I think the line up is still open for discusion but I'm thinking of a straight row of Good characters A B C and D, followed by Evil characters D C B and A, so if Tim's orcain dude is A, his good character would be first and the evil would be last.

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    a little more progress with this roughian

    I'll see if anyone posts after I get back from work, Have a good night either way!
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    Ok, here is an update for my evil character ...... Silverfrost Icemoon. I am mostly working on color and bring the image together.

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    Debbie says:
    Welcome to the Fifth meeting of Team Obsidian
    Shawn says:
    Hello.... hello.... hello.... hello....
    Debbie says:
    Don't forget to post you most recent images inthe sketchbook everyone ....
    Shawn says:
    Give me a second, doing some touchups with some fresh eyes
    Debbie says:
    Please do not forget ......

    * Tim - I need your character description
    * Aaron - I need your team job description

    OK CD, we should probably begin.
    And it looks like its just you and me again tonight!
    Shawn says:
    This is unfortunate
    I hope they show sometime...
    Debbie says:
    I really don't know what to day to their absences .....
    OK, well we can make this a short meeting tonight
    We are already well on our way now that we have the design problems ironed out.
    How is your character coming along?
    If you are busy CD, we can reschedule the meeting
    OK ...... I'm going to call this meeting to a close.
    CD, will you please post this in the sketchbook. Thanks
    Shawn says:
    Sorry I was being talked at
    Debbie says:
    Our next meeting will be Tuesday 18th August - same time.
    Shawn says:
    I'm still available for the meeting
    Debbie says:
    oops - talked at?
    Its ok CD ..... we are on a roll anyway
    How is your character coming along
    Shawn says:
    I'm working on the evil version a bit, still trying different poses to differenciate the good
    got some simple designs on the good dude too
    Debbie says:
    I'm thinking that our characters are just not high-fantasy enough
    But when I look at the work of other teams we seem to be all on the same page - which is good
    Anyway .... I'm still going to call an end to the meeting CD.
    Shawn says:
    Alright. I'll go ahead and post it in the sb
    Debbie says:
    Thanks

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    I'm sorry if I didn't seem like I was as active in this meeting as I should have been. I'll go ahead and post what I refined so far

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    Your characters is really coming along CD ....... what about some color!?!? I'm really interested to see what you do with him.

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    Sorry guys, I should be more active anyway. Um, some more update on the battlemage. I think I'll change the pose a bit just to make it more dynamic. But anyway, I'm just so terrible with poses, and I spent some hours trying to find a pose which works without any real progress.

    So here are some poses which work slightly better. Sorry but I haven't put the armor on him........I think the second one is my favorite so far~

    Should the final image be more of a combat pose or a less dynamic one anyway? I've seen both on the last challenge.....

    About the setting, I think a more wizardly battlemage would suit the high fantasy setting better. And after all, how can anyway high fantasy team do without a spell caster?

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    Shawn:I love how your char is turning out. Great mood in there. Anyway, the head is a bit flat, perhaps you can change the way the shawl/hat wraps around head a bit~

    Also, I found a pretty ref for your armor.
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    Debbie: The evil char is working great. The cloak is simply fabulous, She can be perhaps more different than the good version though, perhaps change the skin tone/background a bit?

    Also, what do you mean by team job description in the email? Don't each of us do a char, at least for now?

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