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    Here goes, please critique

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    Hey good start.

    I'd just like to point out the very first guy's light source is out of whack. At a glance it looks fine. But the highlights behind his legs and under his cloak contradict the shadow on the ground.

    Looking forward to see more. ^^

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    thanks!

    I appreciate that crit, thank you!

    I will work on that and thanks for the reply

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    k...the gestures from above were used to get the pose down for this drawing that is currently in progress:

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    Nice beginning to your sketchbook. With regards to the drawing of the (orcish looking guy?) charging up the hill their were two things I wanted to comment on.

    First the guys right arm feels a little off. He seems to have his arm lifted at a very steep angel but his should comes out pretty horizontal. It just feels like his shoulder doesn't really connect to the arm at that intense of an angel.

    The second is that the lighting seems a little confusing. This may be because you are still shading the work but he seems to have the main light in front and a little to the left of him, as highlights hit his head and eyebrows and chest. The question I get is that the front right of his face and chest are both very lighted while the back of his right leg is also very lighted. Maybe I am wrong but it just throws me through a loop a little.

    Overall very nice WIP so far, definately see potential. Hope this crit helped a little.

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    Hi and thanks for the crit! Appreciated...

    I will have to research on the shoulder...I have already noticed that I dont like his pecs. I am going to adjust them (higher, more firm) and see if that resolves the rght shoulder...it may not but so often things that do not appear to be related are throwing things off "down stream", if you will.

    On lighting: essentially I struggle with it so all comments on it are appreciated! I tend to think in terms of volume as opposed to lighted surfaces and I dont know if thats right, wrong or indifferent but I do wonder. I do see what your saying, however I am intending for an internal light source behind the charging leader that is still to faint to notice I'm going to resist saying what it is until I get to that point and we'll see if it works!

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    pex

    I was thinking of your picture and of the pec problem, but you seem to have noted it, with his arm raised like that his pec should be stretched a bit. If you look at yourself in the mirror, stand still, and raise your arm straight up you'll notice that your pec does some stretching and thinning.

    Related I think where the pec is connecting to the shoulder/arm may be the problem. The pec, at least for me, doesn't really show where it is connecting but appears to go back towards the neck. The only problem is that it should connect to the front of the shoulder near the base of the bicep so that it can create that armpit alcove defining the front and back of the arm, width wise not length wise. Hopefully I am saying this in a way that makes sense, if I'm not just let me know and I can do a quick little drawing/paintover of what I'm trying to say. Hope this helps.

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    most def!

    heya rth2art,
    Actually your comment is VERY helpful and made me tweak his shoulder right before a re-post! perfect timing I think this is much improved...and of course there is much yet to do...

    anybody else that wants to chime in is sure welcome!

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    some random thoughts...

    butt tired after work and lotsofstuff going on in RL...but...

    i decided to draw this little gif to track how I start layin a figure...not right, not wrong, just mine

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    orc head....

    the latest little ditty..

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    good sketchbook!~ keep it up, look at some references and do some studies too!

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    fine!

    ok...here is a "digital painting" from ref (also included) that is WIP...

    I have never actually gone straight digital before...always drawn and then scanned...oh well, here it is:

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    colour, of the last piece is fine, you can work on the hait and the face, but it´s no portrait-good one!
    seems like you like ogres
    will be interesting to see you stuff on page 4 or 5
    see you

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    thanks...I think?

    Here's a little more progress before I go into the day job:

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    more of the same ;-)

    I am continueing to chip away at this ref pic...going in adding detail...re-working the skirt...went to far on the face initially and got caught up doing PS surgery to bring the likeness closer..still not quite there but we'll see...more to follow!

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    Hey, great WIP.

    If I may; I would suggest being more bold about the shading. The light reflection really pops out, because there's some dark shadows contrasting it.

    You may be on your way doing that already, but just to keep in mind ^^

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    tanx Irish' ...and you may, as it is an excellent suggestion and I had not thought of that...I am trying to work more dramatic shadows in (as well as working on her face a bit more)

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    pencils wencils...

    a coupla' pencillages 'o' skullage and fanciful catapult crews

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    I would suggest for more figure drawing, try to draw from people. Sometimes I sit down at a Caffe or other public place and just quickly sketch different people. Loosely getting their motion and gestures.

    As much life drawing as possible, it will save your life later... twice...

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    i agree...

    ya, I need to do more life drawing...trying to work it in

    here is another sketch from today...uhmm...not from life

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    I like your school girl...

    I think doing some anatomy studies from images or life will help you...


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    Thanks, glad you like it. Yes, I agree, that's one reason the school girl is from a ref pic...I would also like to find a life drawing class/school near me...

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    Oops pow surprise!!

    Brain- glad to see that you are working and so diligent. To go way back to the orc portrait the main thing that catches me is that where his hair first comes out of that woven cylinder, their is a halo of white. It may just be me but the piece is nice and that little distractor just seems annoying. I've been neglecting my digital paints for too long but your painting seems to be coming along really well. The only problem is that you've left me in the dust and now I'm going to have to catch up. Guess that will be a little bit of motivation.

    Keep up the good work man. {p.s. same prob. with life drawing, it is really hard to find life drawing classes if you are not actually in school. frown. }

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    Second Thoughts

    I just noticed that on your last piece (with the guns) the holster and pose seem to say that the girl is in action moving so that her right leg will be catching a large amount of her weight but below the knee on the right leg feels like it is stationary. It does not really feel like it is strained or exerting force to keep her level. Just how it strikes me. Nice idea however.

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    tankya!

    Hey rth2, thanks for stopping by Good call on the orc portrait...I will fix that! I also like your CC on the gal...you are correct she is a little light on her right foot...I am not sure how to correct that and with her ridiculous high heels (yes I have a thing for heels *sigh*) it might be necessary for...balance...sure...that's my story ;-) Perhaps if the right leg were extended straight that would help...I'll see what I can do. I am glad you like the digipaint of the school girl...making slow progress this week with the day job slamming me. Hope to pick it up this weekend. Again, thanks for the comments!

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    Hey! Looks like you've got a great start here and I look forward to seeing more.

    While the shoulder on the orc looks better, it is still a bit too extended, I think. Also the left hand is awkward-looking. I originally thought it had been drawn upside down, but at a second look it is simply facing outward. Perhaps the thumb is drawn too low? It may simply be a matter of it not being finished. If you detailed the webbing between the thumb and forefinger it might clarify the issue.

    On the gunwoman, the only thing i see (apart from the balance that's already been mentioned) is that the trigger guards on her weapons should be longer. It is a very rare gun that has a trigger guard so short one can barely get the finger in. Also she seems to be using the wrong eye for sighting. If she is sighting down the barrel with the wrong eye it will throw off the shot, especially on the fly!

    Otherwise you are doing very well.

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    thanks!

    Hi and thanks for posting...good points on the crits. Now her off eye is bugging me ;-) Actually, though you CAN shoot a pistol with the off eye closed if one eye is stronger...I know, I have done it...although not in that position. Having said that I think I will revisit that drawing! =D

    Alright, I wont make excuses for not posting lately, but I have started art classes at a traditional school in Dallas that is not TOO far away. It is going well, and I really am happy with the arrangements they have. If you are in Dallas I would recommend them, PM me if you want the info.

    And without further my story, thus far...

    Cube and Cylinder are complete, first work under instruction. Ear is in progress after one hour, under instruction. Let me know what you think!

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    p0rgress

    A little p0rgress...

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    Welcome Back

    Welcome back. Glad to see you stop by. I was wondering if you had given up on the online community. Glad to hear you found a decent school. Attending full time, or do you still have the day job?
    The cylinder looks a little rounder on top then it does at the bottom. Looks like too extreme of a difference to be the perspective, but I am not there to see it. The gradients look nice though. The ear is coming along as well, just keep working out the forms. How big are the pieces anyway? Kind of looks like they are on newsprint. Just wondering.

    Keep up the work

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    Thanks, rth...no I hadn't given up just got distracted with the full-time day job, jury duty and other personal stuff that was pretty consuming. I think my art classes will help get me back on track. The school is very flexible/affordable and I take and pay as I go...I like it, as I am not interested in a degree (I've already got one and see no reason to pay $$$$ for another piece of paper!)
    Actually, I agree with you on the cylinder...but I drew it that way at the behest of the instructor and I did not contest it for various reasons. He did, in fact, site perspective as the reason...it is debatable as anyone's view is somewhat subjective and the cylinder is pretty tall...at least a foot I would say...Anyway, these pieces are very large, drawn on the "smooth side" of 24"x18" water color press paper.
    Keep on artin'

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