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The final completed version, tough at times but it was a fun journey...... and a special thanks to Randis and others for all your comments and suggestions
This is my first art contest I've entered for a long time ( the last one I think I was about 8 ) but loved the idea so i thought I would give it a go. The concept I've decided to go with came about while listening to a live Bloodbath album. The singer asked the crowd whether they had the 'Resurrection through Carnage' album, which really made me sit up and think what a great image that could make. The other thing I rather like is the mythology of the Succubus and wondered what would happen if I combined that with the idea of newborn/brought to life through carnage/death. So grabbing the gestation cycle of the parasitic wasp*, I thought depicting the birth of a Succubus rising from the host of an unfortunate human male would make a cool image. I want to stay away from the sexy image of big breasts and horns and stick back in something primeval, well that's the idea anyway
Heres the Math
* ooo and heres the science, apparently this wasp isn't a parasite at all but a parasitoid 'This is because a true parasite is something that lives at the expense of its host but doesn't actually kill it, whereas parasitoids nearly always kill their host.' http://chrisraper.org.uk/Html/parasitica.htm
not to sure about the wings yet, want to use something similar to those found on the wasp (hopefully tie the two together, though I might change this if she ends up looking too much like a fairy) but I also might change them so theyre pointing a bit more downwards. Hopefully this will form a an arrow with the body and head and give the image a bit more impetus upwards.
right now to work on the backgrond....
Added the webs as well to give the idea of a period of time were the demon incubates inside the host but hopefully they'll also help draw the eye upward.
Hmm........ just thinking it might be an idea to stick some pants on the chap, maybe some sexy Y fronts
Last edited by Seaport; July 31st, 2009 at 07:48 PM.
i think the poses of the fairy and the guy don't fit together.
First thing is that her legs suggest that she is standing but the hosts body is not long enough to hold the stretched out legs.
Second thing is that the way he is sitting, his body seems complete unaffected that someone of her size is climbing out. A dead body would simply not support the pose.
there are some anatomy and perspective issues too, his feet and where the chair meets the floor seems to be in a wrong perspective.
Chicks shoulders are a lot wider than her hips, also the length of her arms does not match the body. The perspective of the room is wrong too.
hope it helps, cheers.
Cheers Randis for the comment.... though a lot of the issues you describe have been done on purpose for a specific effect, I want to represent an unnatural birth one more like breaking the seal on the genies bottle rather than the wholesale explosion of the body and the eruption of a normal sized/proportioned human, with the length of the body, arms width of the hips etc these I have changed intentionally as I wanted to convey the growth of the character like the release of a genie from its vessel, So the character swells and grows unnaturally as it rises from its container (that is in essence to small for it, a prison and a womb), at the end of the day I don't really want paint the real in this image, I'd like to portray the birth of a creature of myth and not a normal human... so I better make an effort to make sure people don't read the picture as a wonky woman
Yeh the unnatural pose of the body, that does worry me a bit I might change that, though again the pose was on purpose to represent what is ultimately a very unnatural death. Like the parasitic wasp the Succubus has consumed all that was inside and left nothing but the thin rigid crust of an empty shell that is broken like a stripper jumping from a cake...
Good call about the perspective I'll have to go outside and give myself a slap for that........ouch
Right first off I'm going to fix the room perspective problems....
Thanks again for your comment Randis
i understand the effect you try to get here, but i have to say that if you want that genie in a bottle effect without making the proportions wrong then you really don't need the gore effect around the exit wound. You may make the effect more magic like or something. Coz if you go for gore, if you see body parts fly then you expect a physically logical explanation.
If you want to show that her body is growing while she is popping out then maybe the lover part needs to be distorted somehow and maybe twisted to help the viewer to understand what is going on.
If you keep the gore, make sure to make more gore on the walls and the floor
cheers and good luck!
haha now i have the bottle in a genie thought, can't get rid of it.
randis has a point with his last post
if you truly want to go for genie in the bottle look, than have her climbing out of his mouth or something
Hmmmm ... good points Randis I'll have to have a think about this, as you say I think I might have to slash some magic or gore around
Cheers for the comment Bhrandon,
this is the progress so far, just working through in greyscale......Now I'm off for a think and to try to get that 'Gene in a bottle' pop song out of my head
After a think about the comments I've recieved (thanks guys) I've decided to change direction a little bit and go all Aleister Crowley on it. Dont really have the time to restart so rather than something newborn I'm going a bit more occult, its now a summoning more along the theme of Newborn “Bring Something Into the World”. I'm also going to change what originally was going to be webs to string and rope, holding and binding the corpse in position. Add a bit more magic and just a little more gore....
Right next job is the feet and hands, two things I need more practice on and one of the reasons I chose to pose the corse this way rather than giving it more thought, oh well next time..... still having fun doing it though
I like the background, love the combination of this window and the curtains.
Kinda has a bathroom vibe, i can picture some sort of location like in Biaohazard. Creepy blue/green, dirt, rust, tiles. blood. Lots of candle wax around the candles. Maybe one of the candles felt over.
The position of the head takes away some impact and dynamic tho IMO. The way she is popping out has energy and motion but the head looks like it was carefully placed, so frontal and centered. I think it would be cool if the head felt in his lap or maybe the hands caught the head, like oops i dropped my head, puh, caught it!
cant wait to see it finished
If you need a certain colour-feeling or whatsover, I recently stumbled over the music clip "Bush - Greedy Fly". This would also fit to your illustration, I think.
Thanks for your comment on my post, by the way ^^
Thanks for the coment Randis did originally go for a redish colour scheme but after reading this 'Creepy blue/green, dirt, rust, tiles. blood. Lots of candle wax around the candles' I swopped to the new colours and I'm certainly not going back. The head catching made me laugh but unfortuently I'd all ready done the hands etc
Hi DeadInTheAttic, just watched the video link on youtube, cool just the look I'm going for now, cheers
Right done some of the hands and a first colour pass, still plenty to do, candles, background feet etc.....
I used some textures on the walls for a bit of noise etc, found this site to be really useful
Also made some custom brushes using a mud textue from that site and brushed these around the opening on the corpse
Last edited by Seaport; July 23rd, 2009 at 07:07 PM.
i wonder how it would look like if the window in the BG was really bright, that might outline the characters well, giving the image more contrast and some nice light play with the curtains. The window could be a very dirty one, so the light is diffuse, the shadows not hard, the room would stay dark. Just an idea
I'm liking how the colors look. I would darken the background to add contrast.
i really love the concept, good job!