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Yours kicks mine's ass , the one that you commented on was as far as I was able to get. I spent a crap load of time on it and finally gave up on it. I am waiting to retry but think I need to get more concepts of digital painting down till I'm ready to tackle it again.
The nose is definitely the strong point of the piece. I really get an icy feel, but I think the eyes are a little overdone. In camera terms their exposure needs to be toned down. Adding more value would improve it, in my opinion, a lot.
You have more dedication than me. What should our next project be? Landscape?
Two questions; How do you blend well in Photoshop (Do you just use gradual variations in color, or is there some helpful tool to smooth), and how do you create a link out of a word?
Valve There is no better teacher than experience. Thanks! But I agree that the eyes are a little much, they were added in as an afterthought because I didn't like how the 'normal' ones had that staring-into-your-soul look.
How do you blend well in Photoshop? Weeeeeeeell. I have the bad habit of turning down opacity and using the color picker/dropper around the area I want to blend, and just keep going over and over with new transparent lines, and using the color picker on the new, merged area. BUT that way one is supposed to do it is to use full opacity and use the color wheel/menu to manually pick a blended color.
But don't take my word for it, I don't want to send you off in the wrong direction, I'm new to digital painting myself.
How do you create a link out of a word? First, copy the URL of the site/page you want to link to. Next, when posting, in the middle of the tools, beside the alignments, is the picture of a world with a paperclip beside it (this). Click on this and you will be prompted for the URL address, simply paste the address that you copied earlier here. Once accepted, down in the typing area, a section of text will be highlighted. Modify this to fit what you want people to see.
Poses and some Loomis. I hate him but he knows what he's doing.
Edit: Whoo. Page four.
I am envious of your pose maniac skills I'm guessing you do 20 minutes a day? Do you prefer Loomis or Bridgman? I like how Loomis explains things, but he is too wordy. Bridgman I like because he shows us examples and emphasizes the importance of the third dimension.
Valve Guess you could call me a regular pose maniac.
Well, 40+ poses at 30 seconds each equals to about 20, 25 minutes a day, to warm up. I prefer Bridgman cause doesn't stick to precise measurements and its more comfortable style to emulate. But Loomis knows his stuff, and is great to learn from. I just hate all the precision...
Small, early update today. Going to a sort of farewell party for a friend he leave for college. Found a nice juicy pen to do poses in, and scans a lot better. Also downloaded a book by a guy by the name of "Gottfried Bammes". It's all in german, but the picture of self explanatory.
Here are a couple of useful links I found (the last one is a photoreference site that contains artistic nudity)
Valve More links! My browser header is getting full of reading material. I need to sit down and do some studying other than just drawing.
Poses, a lousy figure sketch, and some environment thumbs I've been needing to do. I tried using my pen on them, but not sure about the results.
I apologize for yesterday's missing post, there was another going away party for a number of friends. I also apologize for today's shallow post. I am dead tired from work and lack of sleep. I might also be sick.
A thought just occurred... is your favorite food Steamed Hams, by any chance?
Anyway... good dedication on the gesture-ish stuff from posemaniacs.
I would suggest doing a smaller sheet of slower gestures... I.E. not timed. That way, you can get some of the proportions and measurements down. Just as a changeup. I think this might allow you to get the accuracy in addition to your speed.
Just a suggestion. Keep going!
p sage Not my favorite, but i'm a strong supporter Have you ever had pork-burgers? Tenderlicious.
Valve Thanks. My landscape is lacking... I can't decide on a good composition or details.
I substituted some poses for longer studies, as p sage suggested. I have a lot of proportional issues to iron out. I also realized my sketchbook is out of paper So I'll be scrounging around for scrap paper for a few days till I can pick up a new one.
Those are looking really good, man. I think practice like that and the speed practice will tend to fuse together at some point (fast and danger!) and you'll have excellent gesture skills.
I really am impressed by the two larger drawings from yesterday.
Keep going man!
p sage Thanks. Those two drawings bugged me the entire time I was working on them, but when I finished I felt a bit more accomplished. There will be more coming soon!
Valve Yeah, the colour piece confuses me too. It was supposed to be the start of a landscape, but I couldn't do anything with it. I just really liked the colors in it.
I come bearing poses and awesome news. After tomorrow my work schedule gets shifted back to normal (the last couple days have had me covering for not one, but two people) so I'll be able to get some decent sleep, get out from under the weather, and hopefully, get crackin' on some more (And more varied!) studies.
We shall see..
Your gesture are still looking strong, keep it up
I do not why I didn't realize it till now, but after looking at your gestures I have realized you're not trying to define form. You want to portray action. I was too bent up trying to make it look like something that I muddled everything up. Thanks!
Last edited by FiftyFortunes; August 21st, 2009 at 12:48 AM. Reason: Epiphany :)
Steamed Hamms: Does Whiskey count as beer? :p
Hah. Simpsons references FTW.
Yeah, that's awesome. The advantage to quick gesture is it forces you to view the whole form at once. I guess I'll try that too sometime soon. You're kicking ass at it.
Valve No problem!...I think? I guess I've mainly been going for the action, but without some sense of form, it's hard to tell what's going on, especially when its not a normal viewing angle on the pose, such as below or above, or if the torso is twisted.
p sage Thankee. And, unfortunately, I actually have seen much of the Simpsons, so a lot of references might be lost on me sorry
Lousy day today. Today was the one I got morning off, and guess what? I get called in anyways. So yeah, no sleep till Monday!
p sage Steamed Hams makes me sound like I'm passively angry
Still very tired . However, I took some time to look back over my poses and I think numbers 19, 33, and 37 show good promise.
I think if it were me, I'd have to slow myself down and try to make each pose mean more. It just seems to me as if the 30 second time limit might hinder progress (at least initially) until I can snapshot the gesture, and then really feel like I've nailed in quickly.
For that reason, I slow way down and try to feel each line.
Don't know that that would help you any, but maybe you could get through more of these feeling like more than just 3 of them looked good to you.
Then again, maybe something will just click soon with these 30 second-ers and you'll rip out 40 perfect ones each time.
p sage I think I'll trying doing a combo of slow and fast poses tomorrow, and see what comes of it.
Low on paper and low on sleep The little shadow people I see out of the corners of my eyes tell me to keep going though.
Wasssuppp??? I haven't heard from you in a while, did our sketch group die . Where's your painting?
I like your gestures, as always. What P-Sage says makes sense, can't copy mindlessly. The noblest pleasure in life is understanding . I found someone interested in joining our sketch group.
Kudos to your tenacity senor! Great studies going on. I think some more info-oriented studies will help out. Keep doing the gestures, but learning the proportions and anatomy of the body is important too. The more you understand about those, the more descriptive, efficient, and faster your marks will be in the gestures. Starting with the skeleton, like how Loomis describes, is a good decision.
Add oil! Keep it up!
I love the flow of your stuff Hammes. I would like to comment on the absence of other studies though I suppose you are trying to focus on one thing at a time? I'm not one to speak as I totally abandoned anatomy (well, save for learning about certain things for robotics), and my gestures are as bad as they were a year ago, but I think changing it up would be great for you - you're definitely a good artist and I can see mixing it up can help interdependantly in all of your areas of study art wise, ya know?
I'll stop speaking out of my ass now.
Edit: Oopsie, forgot to say how much I love your thumbnails, shows a lot of artistic intelligence and creativity, looking foward to seeing more of those!
Valve Hey dood. No, our sketch group didn't die, I just couldn't get anywhere with my environment beyond ten minutes. That little colorful box a couple posts up was all the further I got. Do still want to continue with it, or try brainstorming some new ideas?
YihyoungLi Hey, someone new! Gracias! Yeah, I have some loomis e-books, I just need open them again.
p sage Thanks. Fortunately (or would be it be unfortunately?) no classes for me. Didn't get signed up anywhere in time, and didn't want to go in the first place.
Pearscrow Two new people in one day, and thank you for the compliments! Don't worry about speaking outta your ass, many a great idioms and quotes have come from the nether areas.
Just updating to post some poses and to apologize for another missing day. Right now I' busy trying punching down a thick brick wall built of sleep deprivation, physical, and mental fatigue (hallucinations started on day six). Everything's finally caught up and hit me like a semi (no, I don't actually know what this feels like, but I've come close). So I'm just trying to get fully rested again and find some motivation, since I burnt myself out by forcing myself to post everyday.
Right now I'm taking some time off to recuperate and find joy in drawing again. Thus, it might be another day or two before I start posting again.