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June 16th, 2009 #1
Born 1990, from Finland, interested in concept art & digital painting but can only draw a little with pencil. Also, martial arts, they're cool.
Harsh critiques on anything welcome.
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June 16th, 2009 #2
June 18th, 2009 #3
Again, a day late...
Can't seem to find the time to upload things right after I get them done so a day late again.
@rupeshtalaskar: Thanks for the welcome!
Yesterday I felt like doing a self portrait so gave it a try. It's actually only my second time doing anything of the sort, so it was a good exercise. My rendering is bad and the lighting in the room I was drawing in kept changing so... I don't like it very much, but I'm glad I did it. Scanner destroyed most of the tones again... ~_~
I also started doing posemaniacs' 30 sec drawings but didn't get those scanned. Maybe next time.
June 23rd, 2009 #4
Skipping update days again...
Scheduling problems with various things so here's a bunch of things from the past days in one bulk.
Been studying Loomis and a bit of Hogarth. Got very frustrated with Loomis at times but I think I'm getting the hang of it. I've also been doing 20x 30 second poses from posemaniacs daily and collected it all together in random order.
Itching to do some master studies of Amano.
November 26th, 2009 #5
Away for half a year -.-;;
Could make various excuses for not posting anything for the past 6 months but truth is that I'm just too much of a lazy person. >_< Well, maybe not THAT lazy but I end up using my time in the wrong ways... Nah, I'm just lazy, that's got to be it.
Some stuff from during the absence. Would've had more loomis stuff to upload also but the attachment manager hates me and I don't feel like trying to get them up for the 5th time... For some reason when I tried to upload a new image the other ones that I've already got up disappear and I have to start uploading them all over again. If anyone knows what's going on with that let me know.
Got me a Bridgman book for my 19th birthday (which was in the summer >.>;;) so more of that to come probably...
November 26th, 2009 #6Registered User
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I'm glad to see that you are trying again, although I must say that if you had tried during those 6 months you would be on an entirely different level by now... just sayin.... I think that you should try to keep it fun by drawing more from life and imagination. I honestly get bored from trying to learn too much from books and sometimes it can be maddening, but it still has its place.
Good luck man and seriously don't stop this time, you just have to widdle away at all of the things that you don't like about your art and you will have something beautiful.
November 26th, 2009 #7
You're doing well, I can see the knowledge in your work. Just keep practicing at applying your knowledge and you will inevitably improve. About the Bridgman studies, try applying your knowledge to those as well rather than just copying the illustrations. Just because you might not see it in the original illustration doesn't mean that you shouldn't draw it. This is a trap I've seen loads of people fall into (I have done it myself), it will render your effort fruitless if you're not making a conscious effort to utilize your knowledge. The amount of control necessary is where the difficulty in drawing is found, that is why we need to practice. To improve, an artist needs to use enough control so as to get somewhat accurate results whilst simultaneously using the fundamentals (ie. not copying). It is a balancing act to be sure. Pay too much attention to the original and you will have copied it (pointless), don't pay enough attention and you will not have learned anything new from the illustration (almost pointless, you will have at least practiced applying your knowledge). It is a very fine line between the two indeed.
I'm sorry if my post is a little incoherent, It is difficult to explain. I feel passionately about this matter because the problem is so very common. I hope this helps you out in some way, good luck with your work.
"Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours." -Richard Bach
November 26th, 2009 #8Some guy there
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nice sketchbook, i love seeing people studying anatomy (probably because i never spend enough time studying it myself ) and bridgeman has some amazing books thou im sure you dont need me to tell you that haha. Keep up the good work and i cant wait to see you do some Amano studies, his art is amazing (im actually working on a sorta amano-y sketch atm too ).
November 27th, 2009 #9
November 29th, 2009 #10
@James Warren: Thanks for the encouragement! I'll try to put some effort into it. I have a lot of problems with motivation. I don't seem to have the kind of burning passion that I see everywhere in CA. I've just never had that for anything really. I do get a sort of 'Flow' state when I draw, if you're familiar with the term in psychology. That's probably my driving reason to get better in arts.
@Sir Cam: I'm aware that mindless copying doesn't get me anywhere. The Bridgman copies were pretty much my first touch to his art style so I was just trying to get a feel of it. Thanks for looking out for me, though.
@Zeth09: Nice to hear there are other Amano fans out there! Bridgman certainly has some interesting books, but I find his illustrations difficult to read. I don't know if it's because of the print quality or what but I find myself spending a lot of time trying to get the idea behind his teachings. On the other hand, I find Loomis a lot easier to follow but he has a very different kind of approach to figure drawing.
@gabs: I wouldn't say I've progressed much as I'm only starting out but glad you like it. I have Bridgman's Complete guide to drawing from life as paperback. I also have Loomis' books as PDFs, mostly just reading Figure drawing for all it's worth, and a paperback of Hogarth's Dynamic Anatomy.
So, I picked up my mech pencil and did some Loomis/Bridgman/posemaniacs applications. Used posemaniacs for pose references and tried to block some shapes to represent the head, torso and hip masses. The shapes ended up varying somewhat from pose to pose, not sure if that's a good thing... I tried to draw them so that they made some sense to me and looked natural. But finding the building blocks that best suit each pose wasn't as easy as I thought.
December 1st, 2009 #11
Did some free sketching with posemaniacs reference. I like the first (upper left) and the last (lower right) on this page. For some reason the two other poses felt difficult. Clothing and folds are wrong and the anatomy sucks. My lines are also scribbly again... -.-
Need to start doing some detailed anatomy studies...
Looked through one of Amano's art books again and I'm stunned by his style time and again. Makes me want to run before I can walk. Hell I feel like I can't even stand, so I crumble and fall... need to learn to pick myself up more often.
If anyone, who's passionate about becoming a better artist, stumbles upon this sketchbook, I've got a question for you. What drives you on to become better and why? (especially why >.> <.< >.>)
December 1st, 2009 #12If anyone, who's passionate about becoming a better artist, stumbles upon this sketchbook, I've got a question for you. What drives you on to become better and why? (especially why >.> <.< >.>)
Anyways, as I said before, I think your work is looking good. Keep it up.
"Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours." -Richard Bach
December 4th, 2009 #13
Some loose gesture-ish stuff with the help of posemaniacs for now, more to come later.
Question for visitors: What made you choose art over everything else? (A certain source of inspiration, an artist you look up to, someone suggested you to try it? What's your kickstart story?)
For me, ever since I've been into video games, I've liked cool looking characters, special effects and such. I thought it'd be nice to be able to design such characters and draw my own cool stuff. Seeing some of the concept art for the games I've played probably put me on this path. Essentially the same thing brought me to martial arts but that's another story, heh. I seem to be easily swayed by the things that seem 'cool' to me... >.>;; Makes me worry a bit. Of course that's not the only influence I've had but maybe the top most and among the first.
December 4th, 2009 #14
try some still lifes bro. dont give up
December 5th, 2009 #15
I tried doing some head constructing and anatomy stuff by Loomis, Bridgman and Hogarth. I tried, failed, compaired, failed, tried mixing up some methods, failed and quit in frustration soon before long... I also realized that I totally hate some of Bridgman's anatomy illustrations. They're just so messy with unneccessary lines that I just can't read the idea he's trying to deliver.
This one page turned out decent but I still don't like it. Only way I felt like my scribbles went right somewhere was when I copied from the reference or when I was just swinging it without thinking too much of any principles. Just tried to make it look right.
I know I need to "study anatomy", "draw from life" and "apply my knowledge" but that's really vague. I don't know how I should study them... Just copy the books I have until it's all memorized and in muscle/eye memory? Everytime I try to draw anything from imagination, 'apply my knowledge', I feel like burning my sketchbook. Illustrating my own design ideas and creating something new is essentially the way I wanna go with my art. Feels like I'm at a crossroad with signs pointing in many directions but there's no paths leading anywhere.
argh, the frustration...
December 6th, 2009 #16
@Joce: Thanks for the suggestion. I will do still lifes at somepoint and I know there are some things to be learned about rendering there. However, I'm not in a hurry to learn rendering as I'm only developing my way of thinking. And I've just learned impatience leads to giant frustration.
The frustration is gone! ( ^o^)b
I had been reading praises of Vilppu in various posts and eventually took a look at his stuff (what I could find anyway). After watching his a couple of his videos I found and seeing his work flow, I think I learned to think in form a lot better. Building the figure on the gesture and feeling the shape of things with crosscontour really helped me. Actually, I think I only took Vilppu's principle "analyze the model, don't copy" and without realizing it, discovered the usefulness of cross contour while watching his work progress. I will have to get a book from him also at somepoint as the couple of free demo videos were really useful.
Here's some posemaniacs using gesture and then building up the figure around it. I still copy the model too much, but I understand and feel the form a lot better. I dunno if that shows, though... v.v Nevertheless, I'm not going to burn my sketchbook anymore. (Actually ran out of pages and had to go find a new one.)
Oh, another question for visitors (if anyone actually bothers reading posts while skimming through sketchbooks, the sad fact is that I don't, most of the time ^^;;): What do you do to get over artblocks? (Take a break from drawing/painting and find inspiration, search for knowledge to get past a problem?)
In my case, I spent the whole day yesterday searching for knowledge. I tried to find useful principles and methods to push my understanding further to find out where I was going wrong. Fair enough, I found a lot of videos, some more useful than others.
...I write too much.
December 13th, 2009 #17
Did some Bridgman studies over the weekend while visiting Lapland. Mostly shameless copying and reading, but it was fun. Seems to help me think more in 3D. Threw in a couple of sketches of reindeers that walked in the front yard in midst of the anatomy stuff.
If you know any techniques or exercises that I should try and would help me learn to draw better, let me know. ^^
Here's the bunch.
December 13th, 2009 #18
Downloaded Gimp Paint Studio brush sets and tried some speedpainting. Man it was fun! ^^ Might've used texture brushes a bit too much, but for first-ish environment speedpaint I think it turned out nice. I'm total newbie when it comes to painting and colors so any constructive critique would be appreciated.
Gotta do more of these, fun stuff. ^^
December 13th, 2009 #19
December 25th, 2009 #20
Quick selfportrait done from a photo. The hand is funky and rendering all over the place. Bad photo, so lighting was all over the place so kinda improvised the lights... not too happy with it, but at least I got something done. I blame the holiday lazyness. >.>
December 25th, 2009 #21Registered User
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Work more on gesture, try to scratch fearless, that will make your drawings look full of life, try to capture the movement by feeling the gesture.
As Glen Vilppu said it's technically easy, it's the first part and the most important
December 28th, 2009 #22
andres333, today I was actually going to work on gestures and slapped 'fighting' into google's pictures search in hope for some action filled pictures. Didn't want to use posemaniacs this time, drawing the same figures over and over feels boring. One of the pictures that came up had 2 bisons going at it and for some reason it caught my eye... so I ended up sketching them and finding another reference photo of a bison to sketch. So, kinda ended up not where I intended but had fun either way. Gotta do some fun stuff every once in a while like MoKhi said, thanks for reminding me. ^^
December 30th, 2009 #23
So I did some gestures but they turned out so bad I dunno why I'm uploading them... Made from random pictures that came up in google search with 'cosplay'. Thought I'd get a variety of poses with that and I did, kinda. Most of these done under a minute, some over. Didn't have a set limit but tried not to spend too much time on them.
December 30th, 2009 #24
February 7th, 2010 #25
Haven't done much lately, mostly 'cause I have no time. Serving in the military at the moment. I did get a couple of pocket sketchbooks to go with me and did some scribbles with pen when I had the chance. Just random scratching, never seem to have the energy, nor the time, to really study and concentrate on things when I have free time.
October 3rd, 2010 #26
October 22nd, 2010 #27
After army batch
Done with my service, on to new challenges. Thinking of attending TAD next Spring but I've got no money. At least enough of it. Can't seem to find any programs in Finland with similar focus on picture making, shame. So if I plan on attending, I'll probably have to work for a year before that... Or get lucky with a scholarship! Guess not at this level. Maybe next year.
Batch, maybe putting some of these into a portfolio since I don't have one yet.
October 23rd, 2010 #28
October 23rd, 2010 #29
great study like the way of doing a variation for your art style and keep it in the right side
good luck and have fun mate
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October 24th, 2010 #30
Since I can't paint digitally but want to learn, I started a study. Yoshitaka Amano's Albino Warrior. Sketch underway, gotta dibble with it some more but my hand and eye don't work with tablets. *scribble* /o(@_@;)
Also, not photoshop or painter. GIMP 2.6, me cheapo. Here's the WIP shot.