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    The Birth of Venus (FINAL)

    I know it's not perfect, but I've learnt so much in doing it. My take on a modern Venus being born.

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    Been working this in my spare time for the last couple of weeks. Started with an old life drawing sketch and went from there. The right forearm needs to be moved, Iíve changed each hand and four times and the position of the legs about six. The stomach area needs major surgery. I build up vector layers at 2-4% transparency, so it takes a while to get the shadow dark.

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    I think it's going to turn out to be a beautiful piece, but are you going to add some twist to the image? "The birth of venus" is a very traditional idea--and I think the contest is asking for something more original. I think if maybe changed the narrative of how venus was born--it would be a lot better. Like instead of the reference to the sea with the giant sea shell, make it some sort of futuristic machinery with tiny robots menticulously building her body (lame example i'm sorry >< )
    just must opinion though, it is ultimately your piece and your interpretation of the contest--either way it looks like it will be a very pretty piece in the end
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    I'm actually going to a couple of versions on it if I have the time. The second will have an umbilical cord and loads of slime, but I don't see why a more decorative piece can't stand in it's own right. Of course I have to get it up to standard, which is not going to be easy with my skill set. I did check out other renditions of Venus and nothing came close to my idea of a more modern image. It's always possible that I missed something. Spent most of this morning checking hinges for auriculate bivalve shells.

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    I think it's a beautiful idea. (Admittedly that may be because I had already settled on the idea of trying the birth of Athena myself.)

    The contest says the image must be original and not incorporate copyrighted unapproved images. I think putting the Black Spot stamp upon a traditional story may be just what the doctor ordered. The following is a copy paste from the discussion of the 50% credit for "idea development"

    Idea Development:
    Narrative, idea, story, symbolism, design,
    I think it looks like narrative, story, symbolism are a big deal here. Those things are going to be hard to pull off in the complete absence of a backstory people already know about. Hence I've rambled my way through to my conclusion that an original development of a mythical or historical story is probably the way to go here (meaning that if the composition, design elements, and technical development show a flair that hasn't been seen before in this story, the story itself can stand "as written."). Good show! Birth of Venus has such potential for a beautiful design.

    Are you sure you want that shell clapper going straight out of the upper right corner? Well, I guess it's axis is actually going to the top margin rather than the corner. Never mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arttorney View Post
    Are you sure you want that shell clapper going straight out of the upper right corner? Well, I guess it's axis is actually going to the top margin rather than the corner. Never mind.
    I was going for a more traditional Japanese composition with a magazine look. The question is if I can pull it off.

    Post your idea up as it sounds interesting. Classics FTW.

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    I'll put up something when I have it set up OK. Right now it is just ugly-assed stick figures in my sketchbook. I am glad you are thinking about the "magazine look." That is kind of an implied rule, in that you are definitely not going to win the Imagine FX cover if your image is not the right shape for an Imagine FX cover, or if all your coolest stuff is right where they have to put the magazine title. I was just getting ready to study some of their covers and see if I could scare up some submission guidelines before I settle on my final composition and aspect ratio.

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    It wasn't actually a concious decision, just that I noticed it later without doing any research on their covers. It also crops well, but that is by the by.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    I'm actually going to a couple of versions on it if I have the time. The second will have an umbilical cord and loads of slime, but I don't see why a more decorative piece can't stand in it's own right. Of course I have to get it up to standard, which is not going to be easy with my skill set. I did check out other renditions of Venus and nothing came close to my idea of a more modern image. It's always possible that I missed something. Spent most of this morning checking hinges for auriculate bivalve shells.

    Decorative is fine, but venus coming out a shell is pretty overdone, so I'm glad to hear tho that you did have other ideas in mind for making this truly YOUR decorative piece. That's what counts good luck!
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    Nice start to the piece.. I kinda think the shell is too detailed, while she isn't. As she is the focus of the piece, maybe you should render her accordingly (much more than the rest of the composition).
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    I will be. It's just that I keep changing my mind.

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    what program do you use? So far I like venus as a concept. Any paticular reason she's legless
    I don't want to assume you have to give us some abck story on your concept.

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    How's it going black spot? Just wanted to apologize after re-reading my comment, I think it came off rude-intentioned when I didn't mean for it to sound that way, just wanted to know more about your idea

    Any updates on your piece?
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    Buffichar, she does have legs. Iím using Serif DrawPlus X2, itís a vector programme. Yes, I know itís not the way to use vectors, but I didnít know that when I got the programme and it works for me.

    Hala, thatís okay. Itís going slowly. Iíve been posting the recent updates in my sketchbook. A friend pointed out that her left hand is on backwards after I had done a nice job on colour and shading on it. Her left arm is short and that hand is too small.

    This is without the corrections I still have to do.

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    Cool, I like the rendering just don't neglect her left leg. Proportions proportions...

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