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    Hi everyone. I'm new here as you can see. I'm sorry if this doesn't go here. If doesn't please move it or delete it. I joined this forum cause I wanted to become an artist but I don't much about art. I have drawn some things and I'm taking some online classes on this page: drawspace.com but I still think that I'm not learning anything cause I can't actually drawn like many of the people here but I want to learn. I was hoping you guys could help me achieve that goal of becoming an artist. If you guys could give some tips to help me on this long quest. Maybe some links to learning the basics of art. I looked around the forum but couldn't find anything that a beginner like me could easily follow and achieve good results. I'm determined to become an artist so please help me out.

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    Everyone on this board got to where they are now by drawing.
    The book " Drawing on the right side of the brain" worked well for me, and it might for you. Absorb the knowledge in this book quickly and then refine through practice; lots of it. If you want to be an artist, all free time possible should be spent drawing, draw from life, draw things that interest you, when you're not specifically drawing with the intent of solving a problem, doodle little things from your imagination.

    "A drawing is not necessarily academic because it is thorough, but only because it is dead. Neither is a drawing necessarily academic because it is done in what is called a conventional style, any more than it is good because it is done in an unconventional style. The test is whether it has life and conveys genuine feeling."- Harold Speed
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    Thanks I'll see if I can buy that book. Thanks for your post greatly appreciated. Thanks to however moved the topic. Please post some more.

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    ^^^^^^

    That is a very good way to start.

    Putting pencil to paper, and just drawing is the best way to do things. Art is an ongoing, ever learning, monster. Once you create the cute little Gremlin, it will grow. And, once you realize you are hooked....it turns into a monster, with a life of it's own. You'll start to learn new things, investigate new ideas, etc. Then...you know, you're an artist.

    The book suggestsed is a great place to start. I'd also suggest "Perspective without Pain" That book has helped to save me a bit of pain, that's for sure.

    Just remember to have fun. Sure, some of it will seem tedious, almost boring. But, don't lose sight of the simple things.

    In my perspective class, we spent a lot of time drawing cubes. They couldn't have been more boring. But, those cubes can be made into anything, and that is where the fun begins.

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    Wow thanks for the book suggestion. Should I keep on taking the lessons on the internet of just buy me one of those books? Please kepp on posting your post are well appreciated.

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    Creative Illustration by Andrew Loomis goes into many principles of art, and is available for free view on the web here: http://fineart.sk/index.php?cat=13

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    Andrew Loomis pdf's {He is the God of art instruction}
    In the order I recommend they be studied.
    Fun with a pencil
    Successful Drawing
    Creative Illustration
    Figure Drawing For All It's Worth
    Drawing Heads and Hands
    Eye of the Painter
    Also, you are in the right location. This place a most vast library of artistic knowledge and resources.

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    Hi...

    I want to be tall, handsome and rich, with a full head of hair.

    And an artist, too.

    No position or belief, whether religious, political or social, is valid if one has to lie to support it.--Alj Mary

    Ironically, the concept of SIMPLICITY is most often misunderstood by simple-minded people. --Alj Mary
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    @ilakae,
    I want to be as cool as you.

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    At this point, you are best just drawing for fun. Draw what interests you, draw pictures out of books, comics, cartoons, paintings, whatever suits your style. After a few years of just being excited about drawing, then start thinking about how to actually get better.

    Everyone starts out this way....people don't start hardcore studies on week two of "wanting to be an artist", at least I sure as hell didn't. It took many years of just playing around until it just dawned on me "Hey, this is what I want to do with my life".

    Read the books people suggest in this thread, sure, but make sure you don't burn yourself out on constant studying at this stage or you will never stick to it.

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    Ive not taken classes. I started from scratch with a few sketches that, to be honest, werent much to look at but thatnks to a few artist friends and their advice I was able to polish them up pretty neat ^+^ I also spent many many hours at the library reading all kinds of art books from the pro league to the kids section (you'd be surprised how informative those kids ones actually are ^+^). Thatwas before I finally got the internet (thank god for wireless ^+^) and started to look at other peoples sketches and drawings and painting using the google image search until eventually leading me to this site and www.tsofa.com which I recommend as a good place to learn about artistic anatomy. There is a moverator on here known as The Bone Doctor who is also a mod on the tsofa (The Society Of Figurative Art) site.. its also free. now I know that everyones technique is different but, with all the studying Ive dont, I've found that one of the most important areas in drawing and painting (other than proportion which is an obvious one) is shading. Line isn't all that omportant to me.. it was when Id started, Id freak out because there would be a bump in my line and throw it off :p but these days I get a somewhat decent likeness.. a lose likeness.. then build the rest with shading. But like I say, everyone's different ^+^ after all, if all artists were the same it wouldnt be interesting :p but the other important thing is DRAW DRAW DRAW!!!! you may not think your things are good looking at the moment but every sketch, doodle, scribble will teach you something and you can use that knowledge to better the next one.

    Hope it helps ^+^

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    Study the old masters....copy their works until it starts to make sense. Read Glenn Vilppu's articles, and eventually get his manual
    http://mag.awn.com/index.php?ltype=C...lppu&offset=20

    it'll help you more than you know. He starts with the very basics of drawing....and he's a fuckin badass. Check out Will Weston's stuff
    http://www.willwestonstudio.com/teachingdownloads.html

    I might be biased, but if these guys can teach me how to draw decently (and I'm pretty hardheaded) then they can help you. Also, where are you located? Maybe we could recommend some instructors in your area.

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    A good start for me was getting a huge book on human anatomy and drawing the pictures from there. Once you get down anatomy you will notice a huge improvement in your work.

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    Just a day an all of those post. Thanks to anyone who posted. I'm going to read those online books and then start on reading the books I have to buy.
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    Edward Cherniga & Aphotic Phoenix
    Thanks for the books. They are going to come really handy.
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    Ilaekae
    LOL, me too
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    Dusty
    Thanks for those words man. I have drawn a lot around this few years but I decided I wanted to get really better that's why I'm here.
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    PenDiablo
    Thanks Pen Diablo, I guess I'll start drawing everything an anything that comes to my mind I'm going to be an artist even if I spen all my life trying. I want to ge better!
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    Thanks pancho. I'm puertorican if you could get me some instructors it would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to read those things thanks!
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    Wow really? Thanks I guess I'll try out. Which was the book that you used?

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    The book I got was an huge art book on facial expressions. I just went to the local library and picked it up, they usually have a ton of them in the art section, or the medical section.

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    Nice thanks. I guess I have to go pay a visit to my friend the Library(noooo)(Jk)

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    Puerto Rico huh? Ok, I was hoping you'd be like in LA or something where it's easier to find good instructors. I'll try to look something up, cuz I don't think Ricky Martin is running his life drawing class anymore lol. For now, just read through the Vilppu material and the other books that people have suggested to you. There is a wealth of information available online. Further resources include

    getbodysmart.com ...for learning anatomy, particularly insertions and origins
    the brigdman anatomy book, which is available for free if you google it.

    best,

    -Ramon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilaekae View Post
    Hi...

    I want to be tall, handsome and rich, with a full head of hair.

    And an artist, too.
    Sorry, google doesn't have a link for that.



    "Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."
    -John Huston, Director
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    Art just told me it's not working out between the both of you.

    Sorry, no hard feelings bra'

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    Yeah Ramon I don't think Ricky Martin gives does anymore. Anyways I'm reading those books and doing the exercises. Let's see if after I read all the books and start drawing my own I improve in some way.

    Slinky are you talking to me?

    OmenSpirits
    LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabelma View Post
    I want to be an Artist!
    Be an artist then

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    Sorry for the late reply. I'm trying Crane thanks for posting here.

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    The title of your thread reminds me of a Homer Simpson quote:

    "I don't want to be a wanna-be league bowler. I wanna be a league bowler!"

    Guess I'll echo Crane's comment. Be an artist. Nothing's stopping you but you.

    Thinking connects desire with creation.
    How good are you?

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    Were you drawing before you made your conscious decision? Can we see it? It sounds like you decided to be an artist out of the blue?

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    I draw but I miss the fundamentals. Here some drawings I have lying around.
    http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/DSCN1492.jpg
    This looks more like a dinosaur than a horse.
    http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/DSCN1493.jpg

    http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/DSCN1494.jpg
    The heads of this two are quite messed up. I changed my signature after I drew the koala.
    http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/DSCN1495.jpg
    http://i451.photobucket.com/albums/q...5/DSCN1496.jpg

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    Start a sketchbook here, and take it from there.

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    Ok thanks alesoun. I'll think about it. I'll start it once I finish reading all the books Edward gave me.

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    Hey guys I had a question, Does making 3d art help me draw better?
    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mabelma View Post
    Hey guys I had a question, Does making 3d art help me draw better?
    Thanks in advance!
    It'll make you better in that, you'll have to learn the same fundamentals that you would when drawing, you'll just be applying them to 3D.

    It won't make you better in that, you won't be drawing as much as sculpting/dividing depending on what software you're gonna be using.

    so... yes and no.


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    Thanks for the answer. I'll keep drawing then. I have another question, what should I draw to help me improve my skills? Should I do anatomy studies, or just draw whatever comes to my mind? Should I make a sketchbook even if I not very good at drawing?

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