Mabelma's art questions, discussion and other things
Hi everyone. I'm new here as you can see. I'm sorry if this doesn't go here. If doesn't please move it or delete it. I joined this forum cause I wanted to become an artist but I don't much about art. I have drawn some things and I'm taking some online classes on this page: drawspace.com but I still think that I'm not learning anything cause I can't actually drawn like many of the people here but I want to learn. I was hoping you guys could help me achieve that goal of becoming an artist. If you guys could give some tips to help me on this long quest. Maybe some links to learning the basics of art. I looked around the forum but couldn't find anything that a beginner like me could easily follow and achieve good results. I'm determined to become an artist so please help me out.
Last edited by Mabelma; July 8th, 2009 at 09:51 PM.
Everyone on this board got to where they are now by drawing.
The book " Drawing on the right side of the brain" worked well for me, and it might for you. Absorb the knowledge in this book quickly and then refine through practice; lots of it. If you want to be an artist, all free time possible should be spent drawing, draw from life, draw things that interest you, when you're not specifically drawing with the intent of solving a problem, doodle little things from your imagination.
"A drawing is not necessarily academic because it is thorough, but only because it is dead. Neither is a drawing necessarily academic because it is done in what is called a conventional style, any more than it is good because it is done in an unconventional style. The test is whether it has life and conveys genuine feeling."- Harold Speed [[Sketchbook]]
Putting pencil to paper, and just drawing is the best way to do things. Art is an ongoing, ever learning, monster. Once you create the cute little Gremlin, it will grow. And, once you realize you are hooked....it turns into a monster, with a life of it's own. You'll start to learn new things, investigate new ideas, etc. Then...you know, you're an artist.
The book suggestsed is a great place to start. I'd also suggest "Perspective without Pain" That book has helped to save me a bit of pain, that's for sure.
Just remember to have fun. Sure, some of it will seem tedious, almost boring. But, don't lose sight of the simple things.
In my perspective class, we spent a lot of time drawing cubes. They couldn't have been more boring. But, those cubes can be made into anything, and that is where the fun begins.
At this point, you are best just drawing for fun. Draw what interests you, draw pictures out of books, comics, cartoons, paintings, whatever suits your style. After a few years of just being excited about drawing, then start thinking about how to actually get better.
Everyone starts out this way....people don't start hardcore studies on week two of "wanting to be an artist", at least I sure as hell didn't. It took many years of just playing around until it just dawned on me "Hey, this is what I want to do with my life".
Read the books people suggest in this thread, sure, but make sure you don't burn yourself out on constant studying at this stage or you will never stick to it.
Ive not taken classes. I started from scratch with a few sketches that, to be honest, werent much to look at but thatnks to a few artist friends and their advice I was able to polish them up pretty neat ^+^ I also spent many many hours at the library reading all kinds of art books from the pro league to the kids section (you'd be surprised how informative those kids ones actually are ^+^). Thatwas before I finally got the internet (thank god for wireless ^+^) and started to look at other peoples sketches and drawings and painting using the google image search until eventually leading me to this site and www.tsofa.com which I recommend as a good place to learn about artistic anatomy. There is a moverator on here known as The Bone Doctor who is also a mod on the tsofa (The Society Of Figurative Art) site.. its also free. now I know that everyones technique is different but, with all the studying Ive dont, I've found that one of the most important areas in drawing and painting (other than proportion which is an obvious one) is shading. Line isn't all that omportant to me.. it was when Id started, Id freak out because there would be a bump in my line and throw it off :p but these days I get a somewhat decent likeness.. a lose likeness.. then build the rest with shading. But like I say, everyone's different ^+^ after all, if all artists were the same it wouldnt be interesting :p but the other important thing is DRAW DRAW DRAW!!!! you may not think your things are good looking at the moment but every sketch, doodle, scribble will teach you something and you can use that knowledge to better the next one.
I might be biased, but if these guys can teach me how to draw decently (and I'm pretty hardheaded) then they can help you. Also, where are you located? Maybe we could recommend some instructors in your area.
Just a day an all of those post. Thanks to anyone who posted. I'm going to read those online books and then start on reading the books I have to buy.
Edward Cherniga & Aphotic Phoenix
Thanks for the books. They are going to come really handy.
LOL, me too
Thanks for those words man. I have drawn a lot around this few years but I decided I wanted to get really better that's why I'm here.
Thanks Pen Diablo, I guess I'll start drawing everything an anything that comes to my mind I'm going to be an artist even if I spen all my life trying. I want to ge better!
Thanks pancho. I'm puertorican if you could get me some instructors it would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to read those things thanks!
Wow really? Thanks I guess I'll try out. Which was the book that you used?
Last edited by Mabelma; June 11th, 2009 at 02:28 PM.
Puerto Rico huh? Ok, I was hoping you'd be like in LA or something where it's easier to find good instructors. I'll try to look something up, cuz I don't think Ricky Martin is running his life drawing class anymore lol. For now, just read through the Vilppu material and the other books that people have suggested to you. There is a wealth of information available online. Further resources include
getbodysmart.com ...for learning anatomy, particularly insertions and origins
the brigdman anatomy book, which is available for free if you google it.
"Everything must serve the idea. The means used to convey the idea should be the simplest and clear. Just what is required. No extra images. To me this is a universal principle of art. Saying as much as possible with a minimum of means."
Yeah Ramon I don't think Ricky Martin gives does anymore. Anyways I'm reading those books and doing the exercises. Let's see if after I read all the books and start drawing my own I improve in some way.
Thanks for the answer. I'll keep drawing then. I have another question, what should I draw to help me improve my skills? Should I do anatomy studies, or just draw whatever comes to my mind? Should I make a sketchbook even if I not very good at drawing?