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    IDW #101: Speedbirds

    Topic: Speedbirds

    Background: The racing planes and cars of old have been a major inspiration for designers over the years. During the golden age of racing many legendary races and prizes were set up to aid the technical advancement of these vehicles. Most bits of technology you find in modern cars and airplanes stems from that era, in fact. Also, the no-nonsense and strong designs of those early race monsters still manage to captivate many a kid or grown-up with and evokes a sense of awe and wonder.

    One of those famous races was the Schneider Trophy, a race for seaplanes. It was held 11 times between 1913 and 1931, and became a contest for pure speed over a triangular lap. (More about the Schneider Trophy here: Wikipedia - Schneider Trophy)

    The actual topic for this round, however, is inpired by a book that came out recently: Speedbirds. The book is a tribute to those old race monsters, and apart from a lot of drawings and lists of the old classics it also has a section with modern interpretations of those. The main theme is the Schneider Trophy projected into the future, and though most of the drawn airplanes probably won't ever be able to fly, the designs are still awesome to look at. Find more about this project here: Speedbirds.blogspot.com)

    The challange for this round is to do a bit of research to come up with your favourite speed monster from before or close after WWII, and then translate that into a future version that could compete in the Schneider Trophy -meaning it has to take off and land on water, at least. Include sketches of your chosen classic car or airplane in your final entry!

    Brief:
    1. Design and draw a speedbird for the Schneider Trophy of the future!
    2. First find a classic racingcar or airplane that will form the inspiration for your speedbird, and include studies from this vehicle in your final entry -quality of these sketches is entirly up to you, they're meant as studies!
    3. That's it... now draw!

    Deadline: Monday, June 15

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    Oh Gosh, Oh Jolly! Dibs on a Messerschmidt rip off! I love you man
    The Spitfire was attractive aswell, but i just have a thing for the "knife"

    Heres some sketches. The Engine is bugging me, i spend waaay too much time on the design and it still looks bad.
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    yeeeey nice one, i'm in
    I'll start of my sketches based on this beauty:
    (Granville Brothers Model R-1 Super Sportster)
    I'd love some constructive criticism : my sketchbook TY for taking the time
    Let's all just be friends and chill the f*** out, k ?

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    Nice a real little muscle devil Can we see some sketches soon?

    Heres some trashed action poses. I tried to make it cartoony, and tried out some textures. But it think im going with a realistic type of thing...
    Last edited by Rabies; June 9th, 2009 at 10:10 AM.

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    An old IDW'er...

    Rabies - you've already mentioned you weren't happy with the engines but to compete in the Schneider Trophy you plane is going to have to be a flying-boat or seaplane - you might need to look into the practicality of the placement of jet engines on flying-boats to get your design to work.

    Cotletan - the Gee-Bee is a great aircraft but is it a good idea to start with something already so stylised. It feels the topic is to produce something from a conventional aircraft into the style of the Gee-Bee and other racers rather than starting from it. Either way it will be interesting to see how you take the design and work it round into a S-Trophy eligible aircraft - look forward to seeing how you go with it.


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    Yoitisi, a great topic with so much possibilty and style.

    Now I hope I can take this as a chance to return to IDW.

    Thinking of going with:
    IDW #101: Speedbirds
    or maybe something a bit older like
    IDW #101: Speedbirds
    or the SE5
    IDW #101: Speedbirds

    See how things go.
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    D-Holme
    Thanks, I just figured id look into the floating later and come up with some kind of high tech floating device, since this would be a future Schneider Cup. I hadnt thourd of the engine placement

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    D-Holme - ty for the input and valid problems to, but here is my take on it. 1st'ly, the Bee aint stylized at all, it only has that look becaus the goal was to get a much hp in the plane as possible. 2nd'ly, any design can be redesign to bring it farthermore into the future, like changing the propultion and what not ...
    Moving on to your project, i like the 1st plane, but that's just my teast. Looking frw to your next posts.

    Rabies - ty, i just love this muscleplane... as for the sketches, i don't know if i'll post any, i'm not entierly sure of my ability but my final one will look like sugary eye candy goodness ... i hope haha
    I'd love some constructive criticism : my sketchbook TY for taking the time
    Let's all just be friends and chill the f*** out, k ?

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    Like the topic. I have a start but dont know I will get it done. Kiddo has a softball tourney out of town so time is limited. Anyway, I found this great ol pic of a concept Formula-3 car. I have searched and searched but other than this pic and title, can not find any info. but it looks right up the alley for this so I am going with it and have a rough sketch. I might add some touches of Chip Foose's latest design.

    I am adding my first rough sketch here and will update here until done, if I can get it done. I had the perspective done on paper and looked good, then I got to goofin around digitally and kinda got some of it off. its a start.

    Really struggled painting the iso, so I took a break, did a little redesign and worked from the side view for a bit. not done by far, but looking better. I got some more done but gotta get out of town and dont know I will finish. I had high hopes this would turn out much better.
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    D-Holme: hey man great to see you around again As for using the BeeGee to design from, I don't think it matters that much. In fact, it might be easier to use something that stylised because if done well the exagerated parts will form a strong link between past and future. Taking a more conventional plane will need a more subtle approach. The book I linked has both I think.

    Dragonspit: Hope you can finish something! No idea what that thing in the picture is, looks really interesting though Looks a bit like two Salt Flat racing bikes welded together into a F1 car rather than a racecar.

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    Can you use planes that only got to the prototype stage in that era? Also I found a cool site for refs.

    http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/american.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by legendarybarr View Post
    Can you use planes that only got to the prototype stage in that era? Also I found a cool site for refs.

    http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/american.htm
    Wow, really some cool planes and ideas in there. I have seen some of even the odd ones, but there are some in there I was, holy hell, that thing can fly? interesting to say the least.

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    I finished the engine design and moved it to fit the seaplane thing. moved some other stuff around aswell, C&C welcome.

    Sorry about the side scrolling, ill size it down.

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    Just FYI, there's a fantastic book by Tom Foxworth called The Speed Seekers, published by Doubleday in that deals with the Thompson Trophy and Schneider Cup racers, and includes some info on racers that were projected but never built. It's long OP, but if you know a a/c buff they might have a copy, or you could try your local library's search service.

    Some great designs you guys have come up with! I used to be an aviation illustrator, might actually give this one a try...

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