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    Tiananmen Square; 20 years after.

    So most of you will know that this month will be 20 years since the Tianamen Square protest, where thousands of students from Beijing gathered within the square calling for reform within the government, along with similar gatherings across China. Following the death of Hu Yaobang, a politically progressive politician. This galvanised the surrounding community, who chimed in with the words of the students, whose demands became increasingly radical (within the eyes of the government).

    The response from the Chinese government?... to send in the army, which resulted in masses (in all probability thousands, but that information is withheld) of deaths of civilians. International response was almost universal in condemnation of the governments actions (apart from North Korea, Cuba, etc.), along with this image becoming iconic of resistance against corrupt authority;

    Tiananmen Square; 20 years after.

    And yet even today it's government tries to wipe the event from the history books and from the memory of it's people. With widespread censorship of the affair, from news reports, newspapers, to even the internet. (Though the English language Wikipedia article of the event is no longer banned from China since April. Though the Chinese language one still is.)
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    The only part of the video i have seen is right where that picture was taken... watching the tank roll up to that guy and him just standing tall.... god it sends shivers up my spine.

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    I always wondered what the dude had in the carrier bag..external storage for his giant testicles?

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    Yeah i was going to make a comment about how huge balls he mustve had but i decided it wasn't really appropriate lol

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    That shot is legendary. I've always loved that one.
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    The Chinese government is powerless to change one thing: Tiananmen Square will never again be a monument to Communism.
    I remember reading an article directly following this event, which described how some of the student protesters saved a few of the Chinese soldiers from burning to death in their tanks and it inspired my crude drawing below. Those students were bigger than the Communist government and they taught some important lessons on that day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ArtZealot View Post
    That shot is legendary. I've always loved that one.
    I used to have a T-shirt of that in remembrance of the Tiananmen Square Massacre back when I was a teenager. The front of the shirt had that image and I loved it for the man's sheer bravery. Powerful symbolism against tyranny.

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    most locals i have met in china are unaware of this event
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    photos of the protest - http://wiadomosci.onet.pl/125283,21,1,pokaz.html

    Here in Poland it's also the 20th anniversary of the first (partly) free election after the fall of comunism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kingshaj View Post
    most locals i have me in china are unaware of this event
    that's because any in depth discussion of this event here are banned.
    Records of what really happened here 20 years ago have been covered up.
    Most 20 something chinese don't know what went on and as a result, don't really give a shit about it and even get peeved at foreigners who try to ask them about it.
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    That man was probably executed.

    R.I.P.

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    No idea what happened to the guy, but I did end up seeing the video to go with that image a year or so ago. Always saw the picture but the video was brand new to me. Serious cajones.


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    I remember after seeing this on TV when I was a teen that (apparently) the man in the tank was the brother of the one standing in front of it. Reguardless, the news reports was one thing, the testament of my high school english teacher had an even bigger impact.
    Receiving the bill for the bullet that killed your offspring... That's trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the ANGRY filipino View Post
    that's because any in depth discussion of this event here are banned.
    Records of what really happened here 20 years ago have been covered up.
    Most 20 something chinese don't know what went on and as a result, don't really give a shit about it and even get peeved at foreigners who try to ask them about it.
    That makes me sad, forgetting the mistakes of the past is the first steps to repeating them. Not that this information is new to me, but it is especially worrying when considering the fact that China is on course to become a world superpower, and yet it's government still vows that it will not adopt a democratic system.

    (Or am I wrong here? A BBC2 documentary last night explained that the government is still an oligarchy.)
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    the ANGRY filipino:

    yes of course:
    so, in an orwellian sense it never really happened and may not be worth celebrating yet....

    as much as commemorating.

    it is an event that, for the time being anyway, only happened in the minds of foreigners .

    as an aside :
    i think the chinese get annoyed or angry around this topic is because they feel a comparison is being made between their country and the country the foreigner is from... and their respective attempts at democracy.
    and the "know it all" attitude that all westerners have about world politics...and often chinese politics.


    and they often are surprised by the fact that we distrust and take issue with the actions of our own governments.


    BTW: you tube has been banned in china again.... and recently blogspot and "word press" et al
    this must be why...


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