With students who can pass these entrance requirements....no wonder the work is at such a high level! To get those skills, the applicants had to have had good training, and a serious work ethic driven by passion. They already have a very developed skill set before they begin.
It's also interesting that you indicate that french secondary school education is much more demanding than ours. I've been worried about the watering down of education in North America for years. This is not about potential. It's about school environment, attitude towards learning, opportunity (meaning programs that are capable of and dedicated to teaching skills) and work ethic.
In a high school filled with empowered students who see teachers as "advisors" and are overly impressed with each others art, and want to be creative rather than having to learn the hard stuff first, the outcome will be mediocre. I must also add that there is sad lack of knowledgeable instructors since many were educated in the same system and don't have basic perspective, design and representational art skills themselves!
In our programs, we start with talented students some of whom already consider themselves "artists" rather than students. About 20% come straight high schools that didn't make demands on them. They are well meaning, but they have no experience at time management, heavy course loads or dealing with failure and seeing it as part of life and part of the learning process. Some of them can't make the adjustment.
By the end of four years, this year we had a great, professional group of 8 students. But we had lost many along the way who didn't realize what hard work excellence requires! If only we could change primary and secondary education norms, all of you would profit.
Please keep this in mind as you become responsible for the world your kids will inhabit!
Let's make it better.
Last edited by Maxine Schacker; July 11th, 2009 at 07:20 AM.
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I haven't personally used them, although I've thought about it (trying to get my french back), so please research this for yourselves! I've HEARD from other people that this system really works.
I'm french and I've done a lot of research about this school, I'm very interested to study in this school. I've found lot of information about the test. Also, I've spoken to someone who has past the drawing test, thus he gave me lot of information.
This school search people who really know anatomy, how human body and percepective work. Also they are looking for people with a lot of imagination
here some graphics folder from students who have succeeded to the test:
(students often have to pass many times the test, they weren't almost people who succeeded the 1st time they passed the test)
also lot of person advice to buy this book : "The animator's survival kit" by richard williams (the film director of "who framed roger rabbit"
(you can also buy the french version if you want to improve your french, the french title is "Techniques d'animation")
here advices to prepare your portofolio: http://wearenoob.blogspot.com/2007/09/dossier-concours.html
(in french, if you want, I can translate it)
also the test are playoffs
for example in the first test (the Character Study) 60% of the candidates are eliminate, thus examiners won't correct the next test
I know this is an old thread... is anyone applying to the concours this year??
I'm still undecided but I may try anyway even though I know the chances are 0,001 percent. Did anyone from this thread end up going to Gobelins, or somewhere else??? I would be interested to hear the results if anyone still checks up on this thread.
I've heard Supinfocom is also a good alternative... I think it's more towards computer animation (after completing the prepa cycle). Any knowledge on Gobelins ou Supinfocom?
I know you asked it in october and it's a bit old but I am applying for Gobelins.
I haven't attempt the entrance exam yet, I'm 17 and I am going to graduate for highschool this year.
Supinfocom is only for 3D animation. I don't know a lot of things about this school, but one of my friends says it is more popular, professionals would prefer this school to Gobelins for 3D.
Some people say you more need to be a great draughtsman to pass Gobelins exam than Supinfocom. The prepa cycle will not enable you to get accepted in Gobelins unless you work hard alongside Supinfocom.
People usually go to Emca if they haven't succeed in getting in Gobelins, because there you can study 2D animation (or 3D, you specialise at the end of the 1st year). Emca is also cheaper (4000€).
I hope i didn't make lots of mistakes and that i am understandable..
wow, 2009 thread... sorry for the ress. Ill apply for les gobelins next year. I would love if some of you guys, that allready passed by the tests and stuff, could evaluate my skills, and gave me usefull tips. Ill also folow everithing that was said in thios thread. And, if nobody apears, ill try to make a new topic, and later put the link in this coment, so, if someone search on interent and found this out, can have somewhere to go. o/