Chow 157 :: The ENDLESS - Page 9
Join the #1 Art Workshop - LevelUpJoin Premium Art Workshop

Page 9 of 10 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 LastLast
Results 241 to 270 of 296
  1. #241
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    Tennessee, USA
    Posts
    23
    Thanks
    13
    Thanked 28 Times in 11 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Thank you for the information regarding the updates and the comments : ) Hopefully, I will be able to add more comments for the next venue now that I know about this site. I can't wait to see yours completed!

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  2. #242
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Newfoundland Canada, ever hear of it?
    Posts
    118
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Im working on Delirium and Banabas her dog, even though I am a late comer to this one I canít resist putting my take on sandman characters itís still early but do share if you see any wonky anatomy thus far.

    Name:  Delirium.jpg
Views: 316
Size:  98.8 KB

    Check out my Sketch Book here
    Crits always welcome!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  3. #243
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    120
    Thanks
    40
    Thanked 41 Times in 26 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Ramza: Looks done to me. Post it before you break it!
    KuGu: Really nice figure. Goat hind legs look a bit funny. It'd be nice to see some glistening flesh around the boney goat head. Get your paint on
    DecayingLolita: He looks a bit depressed, but that fits. Nice touch with the mask.
    KayOnim: Nice Episode One homage
    RichLyons: Good solid work in every way. Can't fault it. And smoking terriers rule.
    threeeyesworm Good foundation, needs more work. Also, maybe check: the >= 3/4 rule.
    IIKII: Death's upper torso is ace, but her lower half is too square-on to work anatomically. I'd suggest repainting from the waist down, turning her hips a few degrees to the right. Delerium pose is much more natural.
    The Original [E] : Interesting take on it, but the gun looks bent. The right side and (his) left hand don't look perspective-correct. Reverse the curvature.
    KleeWyck: background looks good but she looks like she's floating. Needs a floor.
    wheezy: Nice clean outline. Body looks too long.
    Franna: Awesome. Worked out well. Don't overwork it.
    psantha : I've liked this throughout. The lighting on the book is very nice. No crit. Sorry
    Razorleaf: Scary and very atmospheric. It'll be interesting to see how you take it further.
    Gothique: Liking this a lot. Needs more hooks and wires (maybe chains? but they are a pain to paint).
    dose: Composition is spot-on. I'm sure you can get away with a cell-shaded look on this, maybe just vector fills, dunno. Would make a nice tattoo.
    kurios: Need to see more
    Pheike: Some environmental textures (stone floor, etc) could help dirty it up a bit.
    MJ_Alcazar: No real criticisms on the outline.
    dream_sear: I would say it looks flat if it weren't for the fact that it looks like a stylistic choice. Like a religious image in stained glass. Good stuff.
    NicHolS : The books, the pages, the quill-fingers...the dude is a candle. Nothing else to say.
    Tommoy: Very original take on him. Can't wait to see your final.
    ~baxter: Good clean stuff. Nice to see some line-work.
    feifeicreate: How's it going? I prefered the one with the boobs tbh
    daestwen: That quote needs to go in a speech bubble on your final
    Ronpower: I love the sketch, hope you carried on and painted it.
    Amber Alexander: Nice. Her right leg-to-right foot looks a bit flat. More work on the midriff to give it volume, but the image is a few days old, so...
    audit: Good. Head looked a bit flat when you last posted.
    Arthur 'Two Sheds': Yes.
    darthmarsh: Are you finished yet?

    Not much point in going any further back. Hope I haven't offended anybody.

    But why?
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  4. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to agnostes For This Useful Post:


  5. #244
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    390
    Thanks
    275
    Thanked 283 Times in 155 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    First, a few comments/crits. I apologize, I did miss a few people but I ran out of time for today

    Ramza- I love it! Nice colours and composition.

    KuGu- Very different-looking Death; I dig her hat and the creepy 'goat' creature she's riding on. Anatomy-wise, her knee looks very large and a bit distracting.

    Decaying Lolita- Very broody Dream (which works). I did think it was Desire at first, perhaps because he's very androgynous.

    KayOnim- It's been said before, but the shadow is still overpowering. I think adding more details on it will only make it dwarf the girl further. Maybe you could up the details on the girl some more and bring some focus back on her with lighting/colours? Aside from her face, she looks very plain.

    RichLyons- Great interpretation of Destruction! It is easily recognizable as himself yet it is a totally different take. The little toy-pooch Barnabas is a nice touch.

    Threeeyesworm- The 3/4 rule has already been mentioned. Aside from that; nice drawing, but there is nothing in there telling me this is Destruction. I get more a 'farmer' vibe from him.

    IIKII- Don't give up! Your Delirium is coming along fine (I like the disgruntled person- Death?- in the background). Just needs some polishing and working on the smoke/sparkles.

    The Original E- The drawing and character are nice, but I don't get a Destruction-the-character feel. To me, he looks like a soldier, not the embodiement of destruction. It's the 'stalking' attitude that doesn't fit: Destruction destroys merely by wishing it (or by being it). He wouldn't need to fight directly. But it's just my take on it and to be taken with a grain of salt

    KleeWyck- I love the character and bird-inspired costume. Overall, I think it's a great interpretation of Death except that the sword distracts me a bit. She looks very defensive but the rest of the image is peaceful and quiet.

    Spaztastic- A rare attractive-looking Despair I like it a lot so far. My main crit is that the character seems too colourful for the surroundings. She's peachy and rosy yet the environment is foggy and gray. Are her markings tattoos or cuts? It could work both ways for the character. But if they are indeed cuts, they could look a bit more mangled (like torn flesh) and bloody.

    Franna- Looking great! You did a good job making him/her totally androgynous. That's usually the problem with Despair: Even in the Sandman series, artists have trouble making it truly 50/50.

    Psantha- I love it! That book really looks like it holds the entire universe! Lovely style, too.

    Razorleaf- Are there going to be more elements? I wouldn't know it is Destiny; he just looks like a person in a robe... Maybe if the spiderweb morphed into a galaxy (or the dew beads formed constellations), to
    imply that he knows the entire universe's destiny? I dunno...

    Gothique- Very creepy! I like it!

    Dose- Beautiful! I really hope you'll have time to paint it! According to the story, Delirium used to be Delight; so I find the nice flow and grace fits very well

    Kurios- I dig the idea of an eyepiece with a whorl. I agree that you shouldn't have to stick with black for her colours, as long as the overall elements identify her as Death...

    Dream Sear- You really nailed the Klimt look! It's gorgeous

    Curly- Looks nice, but I think the background greatly overpowers the character. Plus, since he is largely hidden by the character he's carrying, he needs all the focus he can get.

    Tommoy- That's not Dream, that's Nightmare! Well, I guess he does take care of those as well Looking good!

    Daestwen- Another great androgynous Desire. It's nice to see some Desires that I actually would find attractive: Most portrayals of Desire- even in the comic- creep me out. I think the little note fits very well, actually!

    Audit- Great character and I LOVE the style! Lovely colours!

    Agnostes- Really gorgeous image. But to be honest, I thought it was Destruction before reading your description. I think it's the combination of the armour and the red, mangled cape... But maybe it's just me.

    Fersteger- I just had to say it: The shiny butt-cheeks make me chuckle Very playful and awesome!

    And here's my next Death WIP:

    Name:  DeathWIP2.jpg
Views: 302
Size:  159.1 KB

    Last edited by Sekino; May 10th, 2009 at 12:46 AM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  6. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to Sekino For This Useful Post:


  7. #245
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Holland
    Posts
    882
    Thanks
    293
    Thanked 420 Times in 202 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    @Ramza, very nice, the bleu sky looks a bit empty, maybe some rubble in there too. Also a little stronger rim light from the orange/yellow sky would bring her more to the front. I would make the hands reaching out to here more noticeable.
    @KuGu, great sketch, anatomically I think her hips/butt are too low, and the same with her kneecap. Hope u can finish.
    @Psantha, I love the book and the little leaves sticking out. His righthand bothers me, it looks a bit awkward. You could also spend more time on the cloak.
    @Franna, looking great, can't wait to see it in color. One thing bothers me, the point were the legs come together, the crotch area, looks a bit unnatural.

    Would like to comment on more but I need some sleep.

    Here's what I've made of my nightmare, I mean dream.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tommoy For This Useful Post:


  9. #246
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    120
    Thanks
    40
    Thanked 41 Times in 26 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Sekino View Post
    Agnostes- Really gorgeous image. But to be honest, I thought it was Destruction before reading your description. I think it's the combination of the armour and the red, mangled cape... But maybe it's just me.
    With all the angry colours, battle armour and such, it's a fair point. That was my concept, I guess: a Dream prepared for war and defense, expanding on the protective helm, and pushing it far from the goth/emo/Bobby Smith look. That is, at least, what I tried to do

    EDIT - Tommoy: The strappage, belts and plates are working well, but not sure about the orange vortex lines. Probably too soon to say.

    Last edited by agnostes; May 9th, 2009 at 04:03 PM.
    But why?
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  10. #247
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    135
    Thanks
    62
    Thanked 51 Times in 13 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I chose Dream, not sure if I'll be able to get this one done in time. I've had a bad eye infection that's kept me down. So I haven't been able to clean this up and finish it. Hopefully it clears up by tomorrow ::sigh:: it would happen on a cool topic. Sketch idea and current wip.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  11. #248
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    The Abyss, Manchester UK
    Posts
    2,921
    Thanks
    1,202
    Thanked 2,265 Times in 736 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I know I'm pushing it a bit myself, but bear in mind this is a 'redesign' of the characters. I'm seeing some great pics, but many that look like the existing interpretations. Try to make some concession to how YOU would see the characters, not how they have previously been drawn. When Daestwen and myself make the selection we don't want to cut people for not being 'on brief'.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  12. #249
    KleeWyck's Avatar
    KleeWyck is offline Professional Procrastinator Level 4 Gladiator: Meridiani
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Posts
    165
    Thanks
    63
    Thanked 79 Times in 26 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    took it a bit further with the advice i got from everyone. thanks guys. there's still a lot i need to improve but i definitely think it looks a little better.

    added some souls... right now i think it overpowers the character. so i'll probably tone it down.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  13. #250
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Posts
    200
    Thanks
    62
    Thanked 25 Times in 13 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Here I added some rough colors. Very rough still, will be working on it all afternoon.



    I saw the comment a while back about her neck. Good catch. Will try to fix this up as well.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  14. #251
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Newfoundland Canada, ever hear of it?
    Posts
    118
    Thanks
    25
    Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Heres an update on Delirium and her dog more to it than the last one, its not supper different from the original character still going with the teenish girl though i decided to throw in a vortex of chaos that chases her around and only affects her. The idea was to go with that whole MANIC personality being pulled in different directions kinda thing.


    Great work stuff so far guys your keeping me motivated!
    Name:  Deliriumv2.jpg
Views: 272
Size:  58.6 KB

    Last edited by Oxide-0; May 9th, 2009 at 06:10 PM.
    Check out my Sketch Book here
    Crits always welcome!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  15. #252
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Bay Area, CA
    Posts
    768
    Thanks
    355
    Thanked 583 Times in 203 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Ronpower: I like the pose and the colors, I'm assuming shes death because of the symbol around her eye but right now her necklace looks like a cross, I'd suggest making it more obviously an ankh if that's what its supposted to be. Keep it up tho, lookin good!

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  16. #253
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Israel
    Posts
    158
    Thanks
    29
    Thanked 15 Times in 11 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    it's so late.....

    Ever looked back at something you've made and it made you wonder what it was exactly that you were on?
    This has generally been a disappointment for me, art and concept wise, over-thinking it, yet under-thinking it. Over ambitious, I guess.
    But I apologize in advance for the space taking, I thought too much about all this stuff for me not to share, however uninteresting.

    First of all, I was going for keeping what represented the characters' personalities for me, rather than the visual symbols, while reinventing only the setting\background.
    It being, instead of the original kind of meta-mystical setting, basically extremely corny sci-fi. With each character being represented in some different sci-fi pop-cultural manner.
    The concept is that the Endless are an assembly of different superior races which are charged with the mission of "supervising" different aspects of our world for... pretty much ever.
    They're pretty much stuck whith each other, so they definitely function as a family as in the comics.

    Anyway, to your horror I challenged myself to redesign the whole bunch, so I hope you don't mind me giving a basic description for each one, in case anyone likes a concept I thought of which doesn't come through in the images.

    Dream - Pale alien looking, with spaceman helmet and antennas, and with the psychic ability to enter dreams and so forth.
    I thought I'd render him for the final, looking through his window from above the earth, stars reflecting in his big dark eyes.

    Desire - Kind of a canine, royal, rockstar looking.

    Delirium - Lizard-humanoid. She's kind of stuck in an undeveloped stage due to the irremovable broken brain enhancer she's wearing, which also makes her hallucinating and also project some whacky psychedelic magnetic fields around her. I really dislike the big eyed version I sketched, but the other one's okay.

    Despair - This is where it starts to go too far.
    Desire's twin, Despair, gets her brain put in a robot that's much less than attractive, and even less comfortable.
    The robot is composed of machinery and this nasty meat-jelly matter.
    She's in the habit of slicing the matter with her hook-like robot fingers. Nasty.

    Destruction - In the comics, Destruction leaves his duties to roam the earth. And so here he does the same, only to become... Sasquatch!!! How's that for corny.

    Destiny - Continuing over-complication.
    Destiny is a parasitic creature, attached to, I thought, either an abducted cave man or an astronaut, who is carrying Destiny's super-computer, able to calculate data to foresee any event. Mmmmmm, cheesiness.

    Death - Last, and definitely least, being made when I was already out of juice from disappointment.
    Elf-like, all white, and generally casual.

    I definitely lack perspective if I shared all a' this mayhem, so comments are really welcomed, folks.

    -Stav






    Last edited by croovman; May 10th, 2009 at 01:27 AM. Reason: self loathing
    Freedom is awesome.
    www.croovman.deviantart.com/gallery
    Contact: croovman@gmail.com

    On-going project - RATS!
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  17. #254
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Posts
    340
    Thanks
    136
    Thanked 68 Times in 49 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Wow great round everyone, heres what i have so far. Dream wip-age.

    Ramza: Looking really sick mate Nice one.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  18. #255
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Location
    Switzerland/Germany
    Posts
    162
    Thanks
    74
    Thanked 58 Times in 33 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    so here's a color wip of mine.
    thanks to the folks who commented, about the androgynous issue, i point to the wiki text and my last post

    greets!

    Jan

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  19. #256
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    in my head
    Posts
    52
    Thanks
    19
    Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by KleeWyck View Post
    never read the comics. but this sounds fun.

    did a quick sketch of death. i think of the concept of death as very bird-like and strangely elegant. that's why i'm going with a bird-like representation.
    will probably rethink the anhk sword...

    then i thought that perhaps it would be interesting to incorporate the shape of the ankh to her silhouette/design... probably be messing around with that idea.
    You're joking right?

    She looks like she is in a chicken costume with wings sticking out her ass.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  20. #257
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Bay Area, CA
    Posts
    768
    Thanks
    355
    Thanked 583 Times in 203 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by anthro-trees View Post
    You're joking right?

    She looks like she is in a chicken costume with wings sticking out her ass.
    Maybe its the tone but a comment like that is more hurtful then helpful. If you think she looks chicken like then suggest ways to make it look more elegant rather then being rude. My first thought was to rework the legs, I like the feathers as they are.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  21. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Amber Alexander For This Useful Post:


  22. #258
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    264
    Thanks
    45
    Thanked 19 Times in 8 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Actually i already fixed the problem in death last night & i did a destruction.
    Name:  death1.jpg
Views: 238
Size:  52.9 KB

    Name:  destruction.jpg
Views: 237
Size:  56.3 KB

    My website : CHOO3D
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  23. #259
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    121
    Thanks
    316
    Thanked 27 Times in 14 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Wow... almost too late. There are some seriously smokin' images here!

    So far, process... just put 'em all in one image. And below that, what I'm considering a "final". I'm not 100% happy with it... it's feels like it's missing something Delirium-esque? I was hoping the chaotic BG would do it, but... perhaps someone can offer some suggestions/critiques? I'm up for redoing her from the ground up if need be...

    Tav

    Attached Images Attached Images    
    ___________________________________________
    I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way...
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  24. #260
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Oklahoma, USA
    Posts
    850
    Thanks
    536
    Thanked 483 Times in 206 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Thanks everyone for all the critiques!

    Update on Death

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  25. #261
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    121
    Thanks
    316
    Thanked 27 Times in 14 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Holy wow, MJ! Talk about a sweet job of portraying Death! Having spent the last four weeks or so working with you, I can definitely say I've seen you improve with every image you do.

    The only critique I can think to offer is... light-source? Do you have two? I'm imagining the window is one... but it appears you have another one to the bottom right of the image ... and perhaps another one to the left? It's hard to tell. Granted, lightsourcing is my -worst- area so perhaps someone with more experience can tell.

    -snugs- VERY nice job, though. I can almost feel the material... and talk about a snazzy outfit!

    ~Tav

    ___________________________________________
    I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way...
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  26. The Following User Says Thank You to Tavarilyn For This Useful Post:


  27. #262
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Philippines
    Posts
    520
    Thanks
    102
    Thanked 204 Times in 81 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    More renderings. Having a hard time with his right hand and arm.

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  28. #263
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Oklahoma, USA
    Posts
    850
    Thanks
    536
    Thanked 483 Times in 206 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    tsav - thanks! *snugs* Umm, I was only suppoased to have two light sources. I was afraid the bsacklight would make her too dark and you wouldn't be sable to see her.

    I actually think your first sketch had as more dillerium feel to it. Right now she looks to calm.

    Everyone elase - I'm going to try fizxing my key boasrd aso the rsandom lettersa astop popping up. If i can get thast done in time, I'll try to leave asome lsat minute critas for everyone!

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  29. #264
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    390
    Thanks
    275
    Thanked 283 Times in 155 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    I've finished both Despair and Death:

    Name:  CHOW157(2(_Sekino.jpg
Views: 375
Size:  141.1 KB

    Name:  Chow157_Sekino.jpg
Views: 379
Size:  200.2 KB

    I think I'll submit them together, but I'm not sure if this is the right format (it looks weird if I try to put them in the same image):

    Name:  Chow157_Sekino(3).jpg
Views: 377
Size:  218.6 KB

    Any idea?

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  30. #265
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    Philadelphia PA
    Posts
    150
    Thanks
    82
    Thanked 115 Times in 55 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Poshspice View Post
    If you've done more than one put them in a single image.
    Yep you got it right

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  31. The Following User Says Thank You to ~baxter For This Useful Post:


  32. #266
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Posts
    222
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 20 Times in 13 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Poshspice View Post
    Like Sherlock Holmes, John Carter, Smaug or Baba Yaga for example?

    Loving the work coming through in this round. It doesn't look like trying to re-interpret the characters has been a problem.
    Sorry I haven't been following chow. I'll check on previous threads.
    update:


    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  33. #267
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Posts
    6
    Thanks
    2
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    so many inspiring stuff! i'm gonna get the folder chok full of goodies once everybody's done

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  34. #268
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    The Abyss, Manchester UK
    Posts
    2,921
    Thanks
    1,202
    Thanked 2,265 Times in 736 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by anthro-trees View Post
    You're joking right?

    She looks like she is in a chicken costume with wings sticking out her ass.
    Those kind of comments are not helpful and are likely to get you short shrift round here. Please keep crits objective and constructive.

    Oregano - Good to see you here!

    Last edited by Aly Fell; May 10th, 2009 at 04:51 AM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  35. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Aly Fell For This Useful Post:


  36. #269
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    140
    Thanks
    102
    Thanked 62 Times in 38 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    This is my try to do despair. I have lots of work to do, so I donīt know if I can finish it, but I want to try.
    So, the pencil sketch:

    Name:  Despair Sketch klein.jpg
Views: 367
Size:  176.3 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  37. #270
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    38
    Thanks
    21
    Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Finally done with the values. yay! Only colour left to do. Thanks for all the comments guys. See you soon in the finals...

    And what's with the tiny thumbnails?

    Name:  desire5.jpg
Views: 376
Size:  226.2 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

Page 9 of 10 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 LastLast

Members who have read this thread: 1

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •