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    Just one of those nights.

    Where to begin?... Im not sure. Its just one of those nights where I just -CANT seem to do anything right. Im more so talking about my art but I guess it could be translate into more than that.

    I just cant get my ideas down on the paper... I cant get what Im looking at right, or at least as right as I normally can. Everything just seems to come out incredibly wrong and its extremely frustrating. So much so that I had thoughts of burning my sketchbook... Im not going to do that, but still it came to mind.

    I have to imagine I'm not the only one who goes through this. I guess I'd consider it a form of artist block... But I dont know that I really believe in that. I mean, what could really hinder you from being able to pen or pencil to paper and create? Particularly if your merely looking at something and doing your best to copy it?

    Either way, all of my normal methods for helping clear myself of this problem dont seem to have worked tonight... And so I rant... Does anyone have any advice that might help alleviate some stress?
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    stick the artworks on the wall and just live with them for awhile. Start new projects and sketches - new subjects. After a bit you'll see what's wrong with the old pics. It'll stick out like a sore thumb, and you'll see how to fix it.

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    Try something imaginative

    Quoted from one of my other posts:
    My view is that there has always been some form of Metaphysical force that caused the progression of visual art and, much of this has to do with your ability to ride the tides it creates, or catch a good wave so to speak. One thing for certain is that you will see life style trends continuously develop in time that were ALL created by artists from one medium or another.

    These trends come from the will of a connected source that links to all artists. Some of us appear to have incredible imaginations, some the ability to perfect a concept, but each movement is derived from a source that dictates and provides us. As an example, I grew up in an era when the TV was not yet understood by the public but there were artists creating stories about men in space (before the Apollo project) talking with cell phones (Startreck) which eventually became a reality some 30yrs later. Yes I'm a dinosaur. But believe there is a reason that you draw.

    Yes there is something known as an "artist block" and it has destroyed the esteem of thousands of great artists. We are not only artists here to document our times. We are here to create. Sometimes this metaphysical force creates tension within us because of our failure to connect with this concept.

    Your frustration is self destructive. It's a time to just doodle and let your imagination work for you. Calm down and just let it flow. Try something abstract or maybe work in another medium. I am a multi - media artist and I work on five to six projects at a time. This started when I was working with oils which required periods of drying times between layers. Sometimes I think because my grandson is being treated for it that that I have ADHD but the reason I do this is to prevent these blocks from ruining my visions. By stepping aside to another project and coming back for a fresh look at another time, it becomes almost therapeutic.

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    Go get a cup of coffee, come back, and try harder. If you're working straight from ref then all of the answers are in front of you. Use a grid if you have to.

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    I find that the best way to get over this is to actually set up your workspace in a really nice way.
    i mean pimp out your working space with some really nice gear, and make yourself comfortable. Get some nice mood lights, and hell even a pot plant if it helps.

    Another thing that i find that helps is listening to music ive never heard before. Im not sure why but listening to new music calms me. for that i recommend http://www.last.fm

    Also try going for a walk getting an ice cream or other treat to clear you head.

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    First thing - don't worry it's perfectly normal - I can have one day feeling on top of the world drawing exactly what I want ... next day drawing a stick man seems unattainable and I can't say why. It's like my years of experience vanish and I'm a newbie again! But sure enough I take a break & relax I can usually re-focus and all is well again. For me the main thing is to keep the enthusiasm and fun in what I do - if I over-stretch this then focus, quality, ability, etc declines. As others have said here, find those things which inspire you and help you feel good.

    All the best and enjoy your art

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    I am sure everyone experiences this to some degree.
    There are only a limited number of reasons for this problem.
    Without having more information regarding what is going wrong for you, I can only provide general remedies.
    I rarely have trouble interpreting ref. When I do, it can only mean that my idea of reality is coming into conflict with reality as it is.
    We use ref to inform our understanding of reality, so if your ref is not doing that for you, get some that fills the bill.
    Or better yet, find the truth about what you are seeing. Reverse your ref and get a new view of it.
    Most people do not really observe the world; they simply trudge through it.
    I constantly study what I see and it helps to inform my work. Which laws of perspective influence what I see? How would I draw or paint that? Which colors are needed?
    Sometimes, what I am drawing does not match the image I see in my mind. Here are the things I do.
    Try a different take on the composition.
    I reverse the image and I will see it’s flaws immediately. I like to perform my foundation drawing on vellum tracing paper, that way I can see it in reverse and draw on the back if I’m in a hurry. I put the damn thing away for a day and come back to it fresh. I go back to school, by pulling out my Loomis books and running myself through a drill of lessons.
    In the morning I find it helpful to fill a page with quick sketches and it warms me up for the day.

    If your art is not engaging you with inspiration, perhaps it is time to go experience something which does fire your emotional and intellectual batteries. Read a book, go to an art exhibit, start a life-drawing group, spend time with those you love, remember why you make art. I desire to live a broad and sweeping life and bring that experience back to art.
    I hope this helps in some way.

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    Thanks for all the input guys, it is definitely appreciated. I think, however, my problem is coming from general stress right now. I think, possibly, because of the rather sudden change in habits.

    Since going to Reverie Ive been trying to put my full focus on learning to draw better and just better myself as an artist. To do this I have completely cut out TV, and mostly cut out Video games... Including WoW, which has been a major problem in terms it taking all of my time.

    Overall I think that limiting my time to those things is a very good thing. But I think that was how I 'recharged' the batteries, so to speak. Im just afraid Id end up losing all my time to them again, so Im staying away.

    As for what Im going to try to do to fix this... One, I've found a life drawing class that Im going to start attending (starting tonight). Two.... well.. I dont know what two is. I really really wish I could do what Muzzoid suggested... but I cant pimp out my drawing space because my drawing space is at work ( a gas station), which means sucky lighting, no comfortable chairs and my work space is pretty much limited to my lap. I can listen to music though, so I will check out the link you posted.

    Thanks again for all the suggestions guys. I will make it work out somehow *laughs*
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    This seems like a simple answer but the hardest things in life are often the simplest. You need to relax, destress and enter flow while drawing. What I mean is just draw, thats all, don't think just place the pencil to the paper and draw. If you get frustrated take a break, its good to want to improve but if you are not enjoying the journey the end result wont make you any happier.

    I think the whole point of wanting to draw at a professional level should be about two things, wanting to be at a high enough creative level to be associated with good work (a game/movie/W.E) and more importantly being good enough that you can trick people into paying you for something you LOVE to do all day long.

    Marko Djrudevic Once said "Creating art is like picking up a girl. The harder you try the less you will achieve. If you stop caring, the girls will come on their own."
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    You've been focusing the majority of your time on it and I think that's partially the problem, you're just a little burned out. Take a day off, relax, don't think about art. Working too hard is somewhat of an admirable trait, but the more you're overworked the more stressed you get, the more stressed you get the harder it is to focus, the harder it is to focus the harder it is to do good work, which then in turn makes you more stressed. There have been plenty of nights where I couldn't draw something that I knew I could, so I just took a break, got away, spent a couple days away from it and when I came back and started again it was easy

    The mind is kinda like a pool of water, the more you worry the more you stir up all the dirt in mud and the water becomes cloudy. Just relax and let your mind settle down and everything will become clear
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    Hahaha, I love that quote... Marko is such a genius.

    And its not that Im not enjoying myself doing all the studies, I've actually really come to love trying to get what I'm looking at as close as possible. Its like a challenge every time. Its just been the past night and a half that has really gotten to me for whatever reason.

    I just need to find new methods of stress relieving. Because spending 6 hours on world of warcraft or playing rock band(drums can alleviate lots of stress *laugh*) every day because that really cuts into my time that I feel could be better spent on more productive things. And Im just afraid that if I resort to those things every once in a while I may end up getting sucked back into them and getting lost in it.. you know?

    I think I might try and start a stress relief thread *laughs* Get people to post their methods of relaxing. I know we got that cheer up thread, but I get sucked into all that stuff really easily too (I have a bit of a weak willpower).

    I think another of my problems is that its taken me so long to realize how much work I really need to put into getting really good that I feel I've wasted so much time. Maybe this is a bit unfair to myself, but I cant help but feel that way really.

    I think maybe I need to see a therapist -.-; lol. Again, thanks for the support Im feeling a bit better tonight
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    If you're becoming incredibly frustrated with art then stop making art and go take a walk, listen to music, read a book, browse here, friggin watch porn... I don't know, whatever (yeah, that was an attempt at humor which I doubt none of you chuckled at... yes, just like all of my other failed attempts at humor on this site). After all, I believe we all do this for enjoyment and if you're not getting any enjoyment out of the process then what's the point? There's a frustrating ideology in this forum which is "You NEED to draw." No, you really don't if you don't want to.

    Part of that was advice from Whit Brachna...

    If this is for a job or homework, etc then just try to get something done. Don't focus to much on ideas as rather just getting something to a somewhat respectable level. It's not ideal, but it's certainly better than presenting nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Edge Ryan View Post
    The mind is kinda like a pool of water, the more you worry the more you stir up all the dirt in mud and the water becomes cloudy. Just relax and let your mind settle down and everything will become clear
    It's actually literally that. 70% of our bodies are water. And that's exactly what happens; what you think, feel, say, etc, is what you become.

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    To quote Carl Dobsky, "if you're not frustrated, then you're not painting."

    Welcome to the real world. Art sucks, get used to it.

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    *Laughs* Honestly, I think im over my drawing stress.. at least for now. but keep the advice coming!

    Originally Posted by Max Challie
    Anyway, I'm loving the posts in this thread. They're all so different from the usual CA "go draw, you need to do it". I guess it's like.. now that I stopped posting that kind of advice everywhere, you guys do it instead. Now I'm just waiting for Kiera to come in here and thank every one of those posts.
    I think the biggest thing people need to do is find their balance between when to go all out drawing and when to take a break entierly. Which is sort of what Im trying to figure out for myself right now. One thing I have to say is drawing from an actual model was incredebly relaxing compaired to drawing from photographs. Im glad I found that life drawing session

    I really think that we might should share our own ways of coping with stress eh? I think its important to understand we arent alone and that there are alot of different ways of dealing with stress.

    For me I usually employ basic stress relieving things that generally work... But some times dont (why do you think I made the thread?). Things like breathing deeply and slowly to stretching to just taking a hot shower to relax my muscles. If none of those work I usually turn to friends to vent to because theres usually something specific going on. And then... I guess I turn to the concept art .org forums *laughs*

    In terms of drawing, if Im finding I'm having trouble for one reason or another, I'll do a few things. One I'll do a butt load of gesture drawings, kept to 30 seconds. If I dont have an internet connection (I use posemaniacs for my gestures) I'll do another exercise, usually I draw a cube over and over translating it through space. Also, if either of those get too monotonous I'll do tumbnails of random characters, just letting my hand make random marks to create very small very vague silhouetts that might bring some inspiration for a character... but not usually. Either way its a good way to get a creative process rolling.

    Also, as has been said a few times already, keep drawing fun. Even if its just a simple exercise if you dont enjoy doing it there is really very little point.

    .... hopefully that diddnt bore anyone to death. *laughs*
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    y'know,if rockband really helps you relieve stress,frikkin play it! really,if you're worried you'll get sucked back (which happens to me aswell,believe me),you just gotta have the courage to say "hell,i can take a day off to relieve stress.if i start doing it to avoid anything else,i'll quit again". have some faith in yourself.
    also,dirty c actually has the best three rules i've yet encountered. but he's better in telling them himself. rule three ("the unspoken") is probably the best one.
    i say fuckit and do it,and if it doesn't come out right,there's always tomorrow.
    (i actually have to tell that myself sometimes,aloud.)
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    Well, rock band helps because I get to pound the fuck out of the drums. Its more to relieve agression then just stress. Its just that the aggression causes stress, so by relieiving it, I also kill some stress.

    And... i dont paint, not really anyways. Digitally sometimes, but not really. Though im interested in trying out various things. >,<
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    I'm also kinda with Jake on this one. I don't know about anyone else but jerkin' it always relaxes me. There's a little insight into my personal life.


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