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    Outlaw Josie Wales

    My first drawing of a face from a picture. Chose good ole Clint Eastwood. This piece was created in Photoshop with Cintiq.

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    Cool study and movie. You should move up to using a full set of tones in your drawing.

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    I think I'll lighten the shadow below his nose a bit.

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    Have you tried flipping this horizontally.
    I think you should.
    Otherwise, yea, I dig black and whites. Forget colour. Pffft

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    No, I was drawing it from an actual image I was looking at. What would flipping it horizontally accomplish?

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    Its certainly immediately recognisable as Clint

    What would flipping it horizontally accomplish?
    Why don't you try it, and find out? See if anything strikes you about it, flipped. (Looking at images in a mirror is a very old painters trick, goes back at least as far as da Vinci)

    (By the way, the character's called "Josey", not "Josie")

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    Thanks for the correction on the spelling, yeah caught it after I looked up the actual name on IMDB. In terms of flipping the image, its a technique thats used if Im trying to establish new possibilies in my work, given this is a portrait piece I was looking to replicate what I saw not establish new possibilites. I was quite pleased with the piece since I I drew it in 20 mins. I did not want to over analyze the piece, just DRAW!

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    definitely recognizable as clint eastwood, so i would say this piece is successful. Maybe loosen up a bit. Have you ever tried using just black and white but on a colored background. Maybe old parchment or something in this case.

    Life is a fluid medium continually painted on the canvas of time.
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    Yeah a nice colored BG could work.

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    One of my goals was to use very little value variation and shoot for a hard light coming from the left, The actual image I worked off of had very strong lighting. Thanks to all for input.

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    In terms of flipping the image, its a technique thats used if Im trying to establish new possibilies in my work, given this is a portrait piece I was looking to replicate what I saw not establish new possibilites. I was quite pleased with the piece since I I drew it in 20 mins. I did not want to over analyze the piece, just DRAW!
    OK then..... so what were you saying about replicating?

    We're not suggesting flipping to change the image, we're suggesting flipping to check the image.

    You are right to be pleased with it, but I, and dwardo, are trying to teach you one of the fundamental tricks used by portraitists to ensure that they are not unconsciously skewing the image. (And the next time several people give you the same helpful critique/advice, its wiser to try out what they suggest, rather than arguing back with them).

    If you still can't see what dwardo and I are on about, flip your ref image, and compare. (and if you're not prepared to do that, I give up).

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    I appreciate the assistance and If you think this is an argument your mistaken. I completely understand the concept of "Flipping the Canvas" as I have a fine art degree and have had one for 16 years this time. My point is that I wasn't seeking to flip the image as I had no intention of exploring beyond what I had created. I had and have no intention of over analyzing the piece but rather excepting what had been created. I was quite content on what was created. Your insisting that I need to do something that I don't feel I need to do, granted the assistance is welcome. To me the essence of art is what I feel at the time not after it.

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    OK I see that you flipped the image, not being a smart ass, what would you say has been established?

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    OK I see that you flipped the image, not being a smart ass, what would you say has been established?
    I'll say again - flip your ref image, and compare.

    Given that you've posted it in the "critique center", pointing out that it has pretty substantial anatomical/constructional problems is hardly over-analysing. Nor is suggesting a simple means of identifying the problem. Perhaps others will find the discussion helpful.

    Like you, I have no wish to turn this into an argument, as I was trying to offer help - so I'll probably bow out of this discussion now.

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    K, thank you but I could have told you that there are anatomical issues specifically with the nose without flipping the image. I appreciate your input.

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    specifically with the nose
    Clint has an (anatomical) right orbit higher than the left? And anatomically asymmetric malar bones and mandible? OK, fine, carry on.

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    Here is the reference image


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    I don't have a fine arts degree, I wish I do, but I always thought the bones
    occupied the same amount of space all the time.
    The muscle being the ones that change the contour.

    I just thought I'd bring up the best tool that I know when correcting
    proportions, and that was flipping the image.

    I brought that up because your sketch had Clint missing his left jaw.
    I love Clint as much as the next fan, and I found it a total dis-respect
    giving Clint half a jaw.

    Above all else. I dig the black and white, and I'm starting to give in
    to colour. Buahahaha.

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