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April 20th, 2009 #1
P.O.W.! Challenge 23--Warriors Never Cry...
P.O.W.! Challenge 23
Deadline: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 11:59 pm anywhere in the world.
Topic: Warriors Never Cry...
This one is a bit more specific, but I think it leaves enough wiggle room to go in a lot of direction. Those of you who like battle armor and Frazetta-type characters, have a ball. Those of you who don't, show 'em how it's really done. You can interpret the art any way you wish, and the more creatively, the better. Any media. B&W or Color.
You can present your solution as a minimum of TWO to a tentative maximum of SIX pages which adhere to standard comic specs as below...and, yes, you can have the first or last (or both) as a splash page if you want. You can go to additional pages without asking if you have a decent idea that requires it--just don't get too extreme on page counts
Standard Comic Book Size:
--Trim size: 6 5/8" x 10 1/4"
--Live art area: 6" x 9"
--Bleed size before trimming: 6 7/8" x 10 1/2" (1/8" in all directions)
This thread will be the place you ask questions on this challenge, trash talk, post WIPs and post your final art. See the READ THIS FIRST thread for all specs.
This one is three weeks rather than the usual two weeks to see if it will allow more participation or just cause a lot more procrastination. I'll decide afterwards.
P.O.W.! Challenge 24 will be posted before Sunday Midnight, May 10, 2009.
A little note here for all of you who have supported the P.O.W.! Challenges...thankyewthankyewthankyew...
Just a reminder--those of you who didn't get a chance to finish exactly the way you wanted to, or ran into deadline problems, remember there is a sticky section where you can post your stuff when you do get it up to speed.
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April 21st, 2009 #3
i'd like to give this a try. need to get into the practice of panel-work.
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April 26th, 2009 #5
I have about 80 hours of nothing to do. I've already done the sketches. My advice to everyone else who can.... do the sketches, no matter what. It helps get your speed up for later stuff.
The Warrior Never Cries...
Instructor: "Osu! Today we will test your Ki. Your spirit will overcome the body. This kettlebell shall represent the pressures of life"
Instructor: "On your knuckles! 1/3 down! 1/3 down! 1/3 down!"
Student (thinking): I can't hold on!!! My whole body's giving out.
Student (thinking): I have to move find somewhere in my mind to escape thi-"
Instructor: You must have zanchen. YOUR MIND WILL REMAIN! The warrior does not give up. The warrior does not fail. The warrior does not complain or cry.
Last edited by DeuceRok; April 26th, 2009 at 04:07 AM.
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April 28th, 2009 #8
When you spend 6-13 hours a week in the dojo, you had better learn that the warrior never cries!
Inking is coming along. Looks like it's gonna be tri-chromatic since I don't have any painting skills yet. (Black, Dark gray, and light gray)
I'll replace the sketches as they're completed.
BTW! If anyone's wondering what a dojo looks like or wants to see stances/work check out: www.bushinkanwilliamsburg.com
One or 2 of the guys might look familiar.
April 28th, 2009 #9
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April 29th, 2009 #10
greetings P.O.W!.....and fellow CA members. it's has been one of my life dreams to make my own graphic novels....(who am i kidding that's everyone's life dream right!?) my goal is start working on one this year...so i figure what better way to get practice and feedback than p.o.w!
comments critque and trash talk are most welcome!!!
the ugly hoard of bandits hover around the house howling smelling fresh flesh inside. baby cry's mother becomes alert
the mother try's to defend herself and child but get's impaled in the process
the bandits grab child to strenghen their numbers...or too eat
ranger returns home with fresh kill.. dog barks ranger is suspects something is amis rushes to cabin
they've taking everything.....his peacefull life is over. oh! what's this ranger wasn't always a ranger he was once a great warrior....time to lace up...
becuase warriors don't cry they go out and kill things!!!
obvisouly it's rough....trying differen't things with pages no dialogue boxes yet but i'll get there!
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April 29th, 2009 #11
Hey homies, I've never entered any of CA's weekly challenges, but I'm thinking I'm gonna make this my first. It's finals week, but I think I'll be able to make some time.
BTW, mine is probably gonna be 6 pages. Just wanna make sure that this challenge is definitely making an exception to the 4 page limit in the Read First thread.
Last edited by Ian Barker; April 30th, 2009 at 02:50 AM.
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May 4th, 2009 #15
Inking is the bane of my existence. I think I need to sketch even more loose so that it's not so damn tedious. 2 pages of 5 are "colored" and inked.
I have a strong feeling that I'm gonna get beat like a naughty little circus monkey, knowing who else does these and seeing the other post so far. (=D)
Last edited by DeuceRok; May 4th, 2009 at 11:08 PM.
May 5th, 2009 #16
i said hi.. but somehow no one responds too me
i guess i'm doing something wrong...... sorry!!!!!
May 5th, 2009 #17
Hi J.S. Basically some of us have been very busy over in the team CHOW that just got done and really had no time to check in here. Ilaekae will be back soon, so look busy!
Your action seems packed in kind of densly. Will you have many words to insert? I guess you will have room enough as long as nobody has a lengthy soliloquy.
Some mild trash talk at third parties: A lot of people who talked before are now hiding because they have realized this is hard and they are hoping nobody remembers they said they would do this. You're working hard and that is probably further intimidating them.
We are all having fun in here. It is a welcome sight to see all you newcomers. I am pretty sure Ilaekae will not have a problem with six pages, theoryC. Keep working hard and don't wait until the last day or something will kick your butt (whether it be inking or lettering or coloring).
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Thank you, Arttorney, as always...
Everything looks like it's coming together nicely. My apologies for lack of response for the last few days. Like Arttorney, I was sucked into that fiasco Daes' staged in CHOW to humiliate all of us ...
I'm hoping to have mine in this one, too, if I can pull it off in time.
For those of you who have questions on pages--I have a minimum and a suggested maximum to prevent people from biting off more than they can handle. If you have the confidence to move further, do it. I'd say that ten pages is probably the absolute maximum that we'd accept, and even then, I've made exceptions.
Also keep in mind that you don't have to complete the entire comic start to finish. You can submit 2 to 6 pages of a much more complex idea that requires more pages to finish, as long as we can get a feel for where you came from and where you're going. I've had to hold a few of mine back because I have a tendency to end on a sight gag, which only makes sense if the entire comic is up in some form.
If you're short on time, you could show pencils on a few beginning pages finish three or four in sequence, then finish with a few more pencils to finish your idea. We don't have to have a complete finished comic to go to poll, just something that makes sense to the reader and has at least TWO finished pages for final style.
May 6th, 2009 #20
Of course it doesn't HAVE to be finished!! It's more likely to WIN though if it's done though. While winning isn't everything. The process of completing is important!
BTW my next one (after this) is going to me massively cartoony, so I don't have to spend so long inking! Yes, I know I constantly complain about this, but it's because i have yet to find a quick method that matches my style.
May 6th, 2009 #21
Just finished finals, now I can start finally start working a bit more on this. I may try watercolors. I'm about to head home from school, so I won't have a wacom anymore, but I've been wanting to do some watercolors anyways..
May 7th, 2009 #22
My version of a Teaser.....
Page 4 of mine underwent significant changes while I was working on it. The previous pics weren't interesting enough to me. I think you'll agree that it's significantly better.
Overall, the process got a lot faster tonight. Even though I took lots of breaks. I got 1.75 pages done and ready to go.
My current goals:
Fri - Text/Post
Sat (day)- Critiques??
Sat Night - Post
May 7th, 2009 #23
I'd like to give regular detailed crits in here, but haven't had the time since I'm working on a beast of a GN with a tight deadline. I will say this, though. Make sure it's clear what's going in each panel, and in what order to read the panels, and who's talking. Also, the strength of the drawing is really important, so just like in any other type of illustration, you're often going to need reference to do it right. Proportion, anatomy, and perspective need to be correct, or at least convincing and consistent. Sabastian, your panel borders are getting lost, make sure they're clean in the end.
I applaud anyone who takes this up; it's a lot of work.
May 8th, 2009 #24
Hey Mickey (or anyone else who also finds this relevent) P.O.W. is hard because it's such a lengthy process. It's not just throwing a character down with its own nuances, but it's about creating a story, characters, organizing that story, and doing all the general art stuff on top of that. It's cool if you don't have time for it all. I think those who do get a chance to finish still appreciate the critiques. (I know I do.)
May 8th, 2009 #25
Mickey walks the walk, so it's sad if he is too busy to talk the talk.
As for me, I've been drinking, I'm on the internet, and I'm not afraid to burn your eyes out with my entry tomorrow. (Let men fear!)
Seriously, I'm trying kind of a new direction with this one, and anyone who has seen some of my prior stuff knows how scary that is.
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May 9th, 2009 #27
i swear ossifer i was just holding this bottle..for a friend
people drink on this thread i have found a new home! yeah!!!
May 9th, 2009 #28
You can't be a tortured artist without a little booze.
OK, so my "art" is done. I just have to do letters and words.
I hate the fact that you can see my transition and learning over the course of this piece, yet I'm still astounded by the changes in 5 days.
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May 10th, 2009 #30
I am totally proud and totally disgusted by this comic. It's my 1st shot, so I'm stoked to have completed it. I'm disgusted by parts of it:
1. All the perspective errors
2. Lack of deep coloring
3. Weak anatomy in parts
4. Weak fold/fabric design
Overall, I guess I'm happy with my product. I hope Most agree.
Last edited by DeuceRok; May 10th, 2009 at 07:10 AM.