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Topic: Stealth Tank
Background: Fairly simple topic, interpret as you like. Come up with a feasible design though, the stealth ability will have it's costs in either speed, armament or armor. Also, why does it need stealth abilities and what role does this tank play on the battlefield?
This round will therefore need a description and background story behind your concept (and it would be good to think of this before you go into designing it, rather than jotting down a story after the event happened )
1. Design and draw a Stealth Tank.
2. That's it... now draw!
Deadline: Saturday, April 04
Sounds cool. Not sure I can come up with a suitable image though. I keep thinking if the stealth is on, it is invisible and if it is off, it's just a tank. Lol.
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My Finished Work Thread http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=136168
Couple wiki links:
Few thoughts here, one its a tank, and it doesn't need to be invisible to everyone (allies) so communication is something to be considered, a couple of things to consider as well,
no to low heat signature (engine and exhaust, outter material and personnel and equipment included) same for its rockets or any propelled weaponry. Heat is one of the best and easiest ways to target acquisition, its machine vehicle so it more then likely generates a heat signiture, infrared censors are relatively cheap to anyone. So rethin of the engine and housing and emissions systems and surface cooling are some ideas.
Low to no radar foot print, something with modern aircraft steal tech, it uses a mix of angular (cornered) skin along with absorption material to reflect away from or absorb the electromagnetic pulse from radars. This as from what i ve seens
is actually taken from the Tank itself, old designs of the tank use angled armor to deflect rounds (direct hits or kill shots) and prevent the tank from a breach, they also used a absorption like method of impacting rounds (its like a skin over top of the armor plating, shaped like bees cone that would break up disbursing the rounds energy over a larger area, preventing a breach), i think it was the modern United Kingdoms Centurion that uses a highly classified system such as this, but the first and older models form WW2 used similar ideas.
Acoustic and overall visual stealth, the noise the tank makes is important to mask as well, since it's usually a metal and tracked design there are external moving parts including its turret, also its personal and equipment, its no good if the enemy can't see your but can hear you, so all moving parts should be as silent as possible, some sort rethink of suspension mite be in order as well as how it actually moves, wether track systm is used or not noise reduction is top of the list.
Overall shape is important as well, less surface too track either by radar or other visual means, low silhouette is important, also colors, obviously you don't want a bright pink tank, so depenting on the situation, darker for night, be terrain conscious and decide what color schemes to pick, theres also the thought of a chameleon type paint and optical shifting paint or skin to change as the terrain does(since this isn't sci-fi i dunno, but im sure some where they are developing it), and there's more conventional camouflage patterns to consider using. Maybe even simple covering designs like a gilly suit snipers wear, but using while its mobile and self changing as the terrain changes.
Depending on its uses one or more have to be included, range is a factor as well, it can be as big as a house but shoot from half a world away, no one saw it or can detect it but still felt it , so arsenal is a big one, if its in your face metal meats flesh, they not being seen is a good idea, also fear factor, when the tank was first developing it literally made armies surrender with out a shot(WW2), the idea of a large mobile weapon was and still is terrifying to most, and the noise back then, it sounded like nothing they'd ever hear, like a big ol' metal dragon. So a overly opposing design and how fast you get there can be like stealth. You aren't there, then you're there, they can't do much and in larger numbers. Also where it moves is another idea, underground for instance would be neat.
Hmm i think that's all i have for 2 am, sounds really cool though.
Last edited by Izer; March 26th, 2009 at 04:39 AM.
Here's the story behind my stealth tank:
The first Directed Energy Weapons began appearing on battlefields across the Middle East and Central Asia in 2015. Early on, the laser cannons had to be tethered to enormous generators, and were used defensively, knocking artillery rockets and mortars out of the sky. These weapons had a large footprint, and made for an attractive(and expensive) target.
It was only in 2019, when non-replicating nano-science really began to come into it's own, that the DEWs could be mated with much more powerful and long-lasting batteries, allowing them to move around. Around the same time, nano-materials made leaps and bounds, and it became possible to apply a layer of pseudo-paint which would bend visible light around it, making the object underneath appear to be made of glass.
Thus, the M-23 Rapier Close In Weapons System was born. Nearly invisible to the naked eye and most instrumentation, utilizing a 225 Kilowatt solid-state laser from Raytheon, and mated to a tracked chassis capable of traveling at 55 MPH, the first Rapiers protected installations day and night, achieving a 97% kill rate against incoming munitions.
It is only in the last few months that local commanders have allowed Rapiers to operate "outside the wire," and take the fight directly to guerilla fighters. The effect of the 225 kw laser on lightly armored groud troops is devastating.
Last edited by Mr. Natural; March 28th, 2009 at 01:01 AM.
made some sketches for sumthin like diamond-shaped tank, working as heavy 'till medium infantery transport vehicle.
it's made for transport of commando units deep into or even behind the battlezone, working as mobile base and fire support for them.
there are 1 main turrent and 2 secondary ones, 2 missile launcher sidearms and maybe i'm going to install sum minigun or machine gun underside of cockpit (or so called 'warhead', cockpit = warhead, lol). also there are 6 infantery cells and a solar panel for resting long in the desert or stuff.
i concepted it for both specialisation and flexibility,which will be reached by modular tank shape.
(in my eyes tanking in sense of taking one's fire and move the frontline forward doesn't make much sense while being stealthed, so i seached for other ways.)
yoitisi: How strict shall we stick to classical tank definition? in germany this is a so called 'schuetzenpanzer', main battle tanks are called 'kampfpanzer';so in german this would be a tank (panzer) without a doubt. but how it is in this creepy english language?
this is it
So to clarify, does this have to be a relatively plausible design or can it include some sci-fantasy technologies (Fusion engines, anti-gravity, etc.)?
Usually these Weekly activities are relatively open, as long as you follow the main rules and it's somehow related to the topic it's acceptable. So don't worry too much whether or not it is plausible to current technology, it could probably be powered by fairies if you want it to be. Bring on the Legend of Zelda Tank !
some Tanks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWIpa6PRNDw
Last edited by Mr_S_14; March 29th, 2009 at 04:03 PM.
Here's my final:
The way I see it, the best thing you can do is stick to the topic and already determined terms, do whatever works for you within already established set of rules and better don't give them ideas for further restrictions.
Fughi from Yuggoth: I'm not going to be too strict with the topic, since I didn't have much time to set up a new round properly before I left for Dallas, so go with whatever interpretation of 'tank' you feel fits.
Norsehound: It can be anything technology-wise, as long as it sort of fits the definition of a tank in the end. Fantasy, WW I or II or Sci-Fi is all fine.
Mr.Natural: Just a little warning here, as much fun as it might seem to put an invisible tank in a full blown illustration, you still got to show its design and functions. A tank is not a blob with a few hard to distinguish features, even if it's got a invisibility generator.
Well, here goes:
Although the Navy and Air force have had stealth platforms since the 1970s, the army had nothing in it's inventory that utilized the fruits of stealth development since that time. The closest the Army came to utilizing stealth technology was the GIGAS type full combat armor- and even then it was so impractical in deployment that it was only restricted to Special operations units.
Then in 2028, developments in levitation technology made possible the ability to levitate heavy chassis up to five tons without significant loss of mobility. While the applications for levitators were obvious, the United States Army decided to capitalize on this Black Project result by combining it with the latest in Direct Energy Weapons. This was Codenamed "Amble Deer" by the Pentagon.
"Amble Deer" began development in 2028, and was contracted between Lockheed Martin (Leading stealth designers since the early 2000s) and the upstart company Daidin, an in-house Government agency which had built up success around the UACV Stealth fighter "Mimas". The prototype for the "Amble Deer" Platform was constructed at an undisclosed location and delivered to the Dugway proving ground for testing. The new platform, code-named "Obsidian" (after it's geometric shape and the fact that it was a tank), conducted 150 successful test firings at the site. The Obsidian firing tests are believed to account for 30% of the "UFO" scare in Early 2031.
"Obsidian" was concluded as a viable test platform and deployed to a classified special ops unit, where it saw deployment during the Second Middle Eastern War. Undisclosed to the public, many attributed the damages caused by the Obsidian to be the result of the Experimental British "Lynx" Laser Tank, then undergoing testing. The Obsidian remained classified until President Ligaman revealed its existence in a press conference- forcing the Pentagon to unveil one of their most secret (and successful) projects. Since then the "Obsidian" has been deployed to functional Army units and despite being known, it has lost none of its effectiveness.
The Obsidian basically functions as a sniping vehicle. With low heat emissions, no left behind tracks, and no projectile to be traced to the target, the Obsidian is the perfect anti-vehicle platform utilized by the army. Although it has little in the way of stealth against the naked eye, the Obsidian is virtually invisible to other detection systems.
Fantastic as it is, the Obsidian does have a number of drawbacks for an early stealth platform. Key among them is the fact that the Obsidian must remain stationary to fire- and when it does, it gives off a radical heat bloom at the time of firing. Further, because the Laser is integrated into the chassis (the KXK-993 Laser System is too cumbersome to be mounted in a turret) the unit cannot move in one direction and fire in another. Nevertheless, the platform does have a 30 degree angle of latitude when firing from the forward axis.
Even as late as 2039, the Obsidian Tank has remained a staple in the United States Armed forces. So far there are no plans for an immediate replacement, even though several conceptual, functional "Stealth Tank" demonstrators have been unveiled in the United States, Great Brittan, and Germany. Some believe the Russians are also attempting to create a Stealth tank to retain parity with developments by the United States.
All critic is whished and well welcome.
Last edited by fughi from yuggoth; March 30th, 2009 at 07:34 PM.
The M-18 "Panther" Stealth Tank was developed in a joint project between GE and DARPA as a link between Special Operations forces on the ground in need of heavy support during infiltration missions. It specializes in covering vast stretches of terrain undetected by radar or the unaided eye. It combines 20th century stealth design with 21st century adaptable camouflage plating. The thickness of this armor plating is classified, although rumored to be slightly below average marks. It's main loss is artillery. While its range is shorter than the M1-Abrams tank, it also exhausts ammunition faster. It's not made for front-line combat, but speedy, stealth infiltration, evac, and transportation of spec-ops squads. The Panther is able to move at 55 kilometers per hour. Fear factor is low, as few have ever been seen, and there are very few in production or use. It is also able to support troops in a pinch by surprising the enemy up close, but is optimally used for hit and run tactics. In urban warfare, a squad can use it as cover, concealment, and stealthy transportation. The engines are surrounded by high tech sonic dampers, they act aural 'sponges' absorbing any sound produced by the powerful engines needed to move this behemoth. The engine can only be heard within a 6 inch range.
heres a first sketch gonna do a 3d version...
This is cool!
check out artwork at http://www.sekido54.deviantart.com/
I thaught about nearly the same, but found no way to bring it down to paper.
hey guido, nice to hear you made it back in one piece im curious about your experience there!
sooo.. i decided to participate on this one. its a stealth tank, that can drill beneath the ground and place a bomb under the enemy base. stealthy ej?
Yeah, Bring on the Stealthy Space Tanks !
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