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    oDD vs Signature

    Kingdom VS Kingdom

    *****
    The artists have to design an empire/kingdom. It doesn't matter what kind of kingdom.
    It can be anything from a science fiction empire to a fantasy
    realm.
    The two kingdoms don't have anything to do with each other.

    *****
    Both artists have to produce:
    • One Full color illustration showing some part of that kingdom with a few
      citizens.
    • One concept of a building/enviroment.
    • 2-4 illustrations/concepts of enviroments/vehicles/creatures from kingdom

    *****
    The more coherent, convincing kingdom wins.

    *****
    Any media can be used BUT:
    - at least one piece has to be painted digitally.
    - at least one piece has to be painted traditionally.

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    weeeee. yeah lets draw something. :o

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    You are all the way in?

    I over-analize things? That's going to cost you! :evilbat:

    Ok!
    If that doesn't discourage you I'll post concepts of "Kingdoms I Won't Do" as teasers.

    One each week maybe!? Two altogether?
    If this scares you I'll post them in my sketchbook thread
    (because I'm a nice guy)

    If you want to we can both do them. We can take turns.
    You start by posting your then it's my turn and so on ...
    what do you think?

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    hahaha

    sure, post concepts of different kingdoms here.

    idon't got to much time today nor tommorow , but i will try to post something.

    at the begining i was thinking about sunny-futuristic kingdom, but i think i will do snowy-cold-deppresing kingdom.

    Don't wait for any turns, the more good pics we post the better.

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    Don't wait for any turns, the more good pics we post the better.
    Alright! Tell me to stop when you regret that you said that!

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    oDD vs Signature

    just a crapy sketch with bad perspective, i think pic shows the mood of the final concepts...

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    Ouch crap! Good one oDD! I have to admit that.
    You mean final concept for a kingdom you won't do or is that what you will go for eventually?

    This is a kingdom I won't do. First idea I had.
    Yeah reminds me of the Zerg from Starcraft and of Starship Troopers.

    "Kingdom I won't do" - #1

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    Pencil and Gimp

    Here is what the human scientists found out about this species:
    Translucent Alien Kingdom

    The kingdom of these creatures is an organic organism.
    It has organs like hearts and it has roots.
    It grows and spawns creatures.
    Closer to the core the solidity increases.
    We don't know much about the core yet.
    The roots go deeper. The hearts are stronger there.
    It is not translucent at all.
    And the structure is more interesting / daunting.

    In the image we see a part where the kingdom currently ends.
    These areas are more vulnerable and simpler.
    As these areas age they get more solid and they develop.

    There are different kinds of creatures.
    Warriors for example, but also workers.
    They are connected to the kingdom until they are born.
    All of them are loyal a hundred percent.
    They go through several stages during their life.

    There are almost no patterns in the kingdom.
    It constantly comes up with new inventions and structures.
    We can't be sure of anything.
    Our guess is that there is a brain somewhere.


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    hymm interesting, i will do a very typical kingdom.

    er i still don't know how the final concept will look. Just painting some ideas i hav in my head. Still no ref, I will have to look at some cities and decide what style i'm aiming at. The thing i know i want it to be cold/depresing, maybe ruled by some diktator (sp!) or something, I want it to have futuristic elemnts.... I dont decided yet...

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    I think I'll eventually do a more typical kingdom as well.
    Because it has to be convincing.
    I try to be creative now though.

    Yours is great!
    I have to try to catch up as far as rendering goes.
    The posted images are visualisation practice (without reference obviously)
    I hope they are a little moody.

    Expect some rendering studies soon.

    "Kingdom I won't do" - #2
    Young Vampire Kingdom

    This kingdom is a village that an army of vampires turned into one.
    The houses were made vampire friendly. Windows were barricaded for example.

    And they keep cattle to feed on. They have to be careful during the day.
    Occasionally groups of human people attack the village and try to burn houses and kill vampires.
    At night they hunt though, to feed on humans that are careless.
    That way they increase in numbers and make plans for attacks on the next village.
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    "Kingdom I won't do" - #3
    Dumb architects kingdom

    Not sure what to say.

    Judging from the architecture they are not the brightest species possible.
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    i like the number 3 , i think it would be cool if everything was made of plastic there and it was underground

    comming closer to what i am thinking about:
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    Damn again. That actually rocks.
    But I'm not screwed yet.
    Do I see some perspective issues? :p
    Sorry: no image.

    But obviously you don't see the potential in the kingdoms. Just the images!

    I'll pull all the stops to win this duel! I hope it's enough.
    This means that I won't do a typical kingdom.
    It will be something more daring. Study, study ... have to study!

    Btw are animated gifs allowed?
    To show how they walk, work and stab people.

    Wow ... I don't want that kind of advantage.
    You'd never know what hit you ...
    http://photoguide.to/
    http://www.photo.net/travel/
    for example: ( http://www.photo.net/spain/barcelona )

    [edit]
    Study from ref (Opencanvas/mouse) added:
    oDD vs Signature
    [/edit]

    Last edited by Signature; December 17th, 2003 at 02:18 AM.
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    Thanks for the links

    i like the last pic, the thing that realy bothers me are the way you painted those trees in the back, why are you making those spirals.

    i promise to post more in future. I can see clearly the more i think about the kingdom the more it looks like my home city :/ anyway got to make some futuristic elements ( i already got some ideas)

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    The next thing I'll post will probably be something with more details.
    Or a more complex concept.

    The trees in the last one looked ok as small thumbnail in opencanvas.
    That was what I tried. Simplifying.
    If I'd try to get the details right too it would take forever.
    I have to make more studies than it will be easier for me.

    Right now I'm printing stuff like crazy. Then I'll create worldz.

    Yours are great. Is your home city really that depressing?

    It's amazing how you capture emotions in the images.
    I guess I don't have to mention the textures.
    I'm looking forward to the futuristic elements. I loved the DSG concepts.

    But wait! I'm not here as a fan. So I'll stop right here!!!

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    Hey guys

    Nice to see a sijun fight in here guys. I like the both of your works dudes.

    see you in sijun
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    Damn I forgot that there are the holidays when I wrote that
    Right now I'm printing stuff like crazy. Then I'll create worldz.
    Should have known I'd be too depressed to draw something decent for weeks.

    Here are some uninspired images I drew in 15 minutes ...
    (searching for composition I can use for a detailed image)
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    Originally posted by Signature
    Should have known I'd be too depressed to draw something decent for weeks.
    hahaha





    uhmmm... i got nothing to show at the moment :o

    oh and Matthew , thanks

    [edit]
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    Last edited by oDD; December 24th, 2003 at 12:06 PM.
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    Damn you could have bumped the thread ...
    great image. Not at all depressing.

    I still can't concentrate but I'm recovering.

    Firsts steps: half assed search for a nice concept again...

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    I got tempera colors (pretty much like Gouache afaik) ...
    I guess they qualify as traditional.

    Last edited by Signature; December 28th, 2003 at 03:49 PM.
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    hey, i cant concentrate myself too . BTW nice pics

    I got tempera colors (pretty much like Gouache afaik) ...
    I guess they qualify as traditional.
    sure, that the first traditional paint i picked (it was last year). My cheep tempera always become brighter in the dark areas so watch out . I paint with acrylics now.

    will post something tommorow.

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    Thanks for the tip. I'll be careful.

    I had the opportunity to paint with acrylics in school.
    But back then art didn't interest me at all.
    (About 4 years ago maybe)

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    "Kingdom I won't do" - #4
    Connected Islands kingdom

    Not convincing I know. Just supposed to look pretty.
    They might if they were colored ... and ... well .... better!
    Just doodling without worrying about messing things up helped.
    At some point an idea suddenly hit me:
    I decided that I can use textures too for a change :emb:

    Looking forward to your image!
    But I'm also kinda scared ...

    Found another site with reference for environments.
    I like the colors:
    http://www.chuckstarck.com/photos.htm

    [edit]

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    "Empire I won't do" - #5
    Futuristic Empire

    I desperately want to make a concept with skyscrapers and futuristic trains work
    [/edit]

    Last edited by Signature; December 28th, 2003 at 10:17 PM.
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    I'm kinda afraid of the deadline now.
    I think today I'll say what my kingdom will be.

    Then I'll make studies and rough sketches for the concepts.

    I'll edit this post to add stuff.
    Just need to write this that I HAVE TO do something today (more or less)

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    nah... this is for fun, there is nothing to be afraid of. chill :cool: probably i won't do nothing for atleast a week.

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    odd your an animal man

    that last snow city scene is super rad

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    Damn. There are reasons why I didn't post until now.
    And its not just because I did other things.

    I made a study but I had to wait for permission to post it!
    Thanks to LacrimaStock for allowing me to post it!
    This is the image I used: Link

    Click image for large version
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    I am happy with my ideas but not with the concepts so far.
    It'll be a futuristic empire with colonies on many planets.
    Not sure how humanoid the characters will be.

    Expect science fiction stuff.
    I'll try to make an image with skyscrapers and futuristic trains work

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    "Kingdom I won't do" - #6
    3 apples worm kingdom


    Last edited by Signature; January 22nd, 2004 at 10:14 AM.
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    I give up! ODD wins ... I lose!

    Last edited by Signature; February 1st, 2004 at 11:07 AM.
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    dude WTF??
    dont give up, just try your fucking hardest, this is your chance to prove yourself dude, cmon you can do it!!
    ODD doesnt know what hes in for, lol.
    Im facing off against a "Titan" too, so its all or nothing.

    GOOD LUCK!!

    _B0R1S

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    Even a hare bites when he's backed into a corner.

    "I've wrestled with reality for 35 years, Doctor, and I'm happy to state I finally won out over it. "

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    Your Textures

    just a crapy sketch with bad perspective, i think pic shows the mood of the final concepts...

    Hey oDD:

    How did you get those textures under/within your strokes on your first post? and were you using photoshop? I have been looking for a way to give my paintings more life, any info will be appreciated. Thanks

    -Balthazar

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    Signature, Odd, you have two different approach to create the atmosphere of your kingdom. Odd's world is mysterious, dark. Sig's world is technologic and fresh.
    I like both. :chug:


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    The reason why I give up can't be seen in this thread.
    It was stuff at Sijun, Eatpoo and in real life.

    I'd love to bite ... I just can't right now.

    Btw ...
    Balthazar
    oDD posted in that thread:
    http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?t=34409
    Not sure if he used a similar approach there
    and not sure how to get the texture in the early steps.
    :confused:

    Last edited by Signature; February 9th, 2004 at 04:10 AM.
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    Lets forget this thread egzisted. :cool: Andy gots bad humor lately and i'm a lazy ass.

    Balthazar: there is a tutorial section on my site, look there for the texture tips.


    move along, there is nothing to see here, move along :beer:

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