I've been avoiding this subject for a long time, but i felt that i have to tackle it eventually. Long story short here's an ENVIRONMENT! yes i did an enviro heh.
Hello Icecold, thanks for visiting my SB. Next tome you gotta crit me though, even if its just to say "Where's the updates at, fool?"
What you said about life drawing: Yeah that does suck a bit.
I do believe that you can get a lot out of photographs as well.
I can highly recommend the later editions of Maureen and Douglas Johnson's "art Models" books for the quality of the poses, the models, and the lighting. Also useful is the Virtual Pose series of books...although they can be annoying because the digital copies of the photos are in video files, not individual images that can be cropped and modified easily.
The chief thing when working from photographs is not to get trapped into duplicating the geometry and blocks of value mechanically, without analysis. You want to understand the forms and their placement in 3D space, as well as gaining insight into how the anatomical mass balances in various poses.
Of course you can work from yourself as a model too, especially for important thing like hands and feet...use a mirror and or a camera.
You said something a while back about wanting to go to the Watts Atelier. Get yourself a copy of Michael Hampton's Figure Drawing: Design and Invention. His techniques same very much like the Watts approach. Also crib off of Kevin Chen's notes on Analytical Figure Drawing.
For anatomy I recommend Victor Perard's "Anatomy and Figure Drawing"...its really excellent.
In addition to figure studies you should really step up some more simple perspective studies. Do some exercises on this subject daily. If you don't get bogged down in the details perspective and foreshortening knowedlge opens many many doors.
You may want to check out Scott Robertson's DVDs on basic form building and vehicle design...they were a big wake-up for me.
In general it looks like you need to have more balance between your creative work and studies. Alternating between study and application is crucial. If you spend to long on either you'll easily get stagnant. Right now I think you need more studies.
On your paintings: try to slow down. Really force yourself not to leave things unfinished.
Those character silhouettes look awesome. Do some more page of those, then select the best of them and flesh them out a bit, even if only with some basic values of lines.
sketchbook...a kitten dies every time you don't comment
“When forced to work within a strict framework,
the imagination is taxed to its utmost – and will
produce its richest ideas. Given total freedom,
the work is likely to sprawl.”
- TS Eliot
OOH SNAP!! Here i am, missing for a tintsy, tiny while, and you get so much better!
First of all, sorry to hear about that headache you had (quite a while ago, i know ^^") and that contest drawing was really saturated, yes, but it was an interesting style!
I was able to see some more in this one.
I saw you going wild with birdies n animals in general too!
This one was in particular a treat for my eyes. Nice log rendering too.
And second of all, CONGRATULATIONS WITH YOUR ENVIRONMENT!!!!!!!
It seems you have stepped over another mile stone, and there's no stopping you!!
The mood is wonderful, the values are there, now all you have to do is figure out how to add those details. Make it less blurry somehow.
Awaiting your next update Paul!
Aww, thanks to you i'm even more willing to draw, to recieve such a feedback. It's really precious, i owe you all.
It's exacly why i started a thread like this, to recieve such comments, many thanks you speak words of wisdom.
Glad you're back :*
R a n d i s
An honor to have you here Randis.
Glad you like it
So here's some sketches and a character i did from scratch from my imagination with only 2 brushes 1 flat and a soft round to soften some stuff.
Some people on my homeland forum said i rely only on custom brushes, i guess that proves they were wrong
Anyways i couldn't finish it properly i'm so tired that my everything seems like it's spinning i need to rest, good night.
Hey dude, like that enviro at the top of this page 19 - keep it up!
Well i'd say those people have no clue, and even if it were only custom brush, it's tricky to make it do what you want. Hope i made sense xD
In any case!! Those are some mean portraits!!
Should do some more myself
Good to be back!
Take care now :*
NickyBeats Thank You!
JustinBeckett Thanks, i'll do more in the future.
MatejaPetkovic A word like that from a person like you... i'm honored Mateja, thank you
BlackDelphin I just think they envy that's all. Huge hug for yoy my friend .
Soooo, i was cleaning up my house today and did some elipse and straight line pages meanwhile, and somehow this came out ^^'
Last edited by Icecold; April 9th, 2010 at 05:04 AM.
Ahhaha I'd love to get a result like that too when i practice ellipses n straight lines lolz Looks good
I like the silhouette on the left and the overall idea, but the figure on the right seems to have some really huge and heavy clothes for that head of his.
Nice values on the portrait. You are really good with them, and one can see it clear in your envo. Has an overall stiff look though.
Update more please!
I was about to do alot of studies today, but as most of you have probably already heard, our president along with over 100 people mostly goverment men died in plane crash. We are all in the state of shock right now, so don't expect any updates really soon.
Last edited by Icecold; April 10th, 2010 at 06:22 AM.
I hope so Cristina, but this is a hard situation as huge part of the goverment and army generals etc re gone, it'll be tough both for theirfamilies and for our country.
I did manage to do one piece today, nothing fancy, but as i call it simplicity can be powerful
Last edited by Icecold; April 10th, 2010 at 03:00 PM.
Yes it is. It seems it was actually going to good. Your country being one of the most steady ones. In 2 years you'd be using euro too.
In any case, as you said, it can't be redone.
The sketch is looking much better now that you flipped it.
It has a nice concept.
Glad you could update today my friend.
great studies mate.
hehe its always nice to be able to do these challenges,and show that you can do it with more than one way
I skimmed through almost your entire SB Ice, wonderful progress from start to end!!! You have improved so much; it's very inspiring for us that are just starting out.
I would agree with most that you should spend some time really finishing/rendering some of these awesome concepts you have going. You also have a very apparent strength for environments, make some more of those (this is selfish on my part, haha, because I want to see more more more!).
If you have time, please check out my SB, and leave some feedback for someone just starting out. Keep up the good work! I will be checking back regularly.
Oooh great! Memory and colour scheme!!
More saturation next time please, either in the light or the shadow.
It looks pretty good! I like the face paints and her hair style! But i can't agree with that right breast. To big and up front for the angle of her body and the head. Her armpit looks a bit to low too. Even if she has hair on top, i am not sure you paid to much attention when you constructed that.
More night speedpaints please! <hug>
Gosh i see atleast a dozen of mistakes with fairly fresh eyes, that's how it goes folks don't paint when its nearly 2 o'clock at night
I'm to tired to even consider drawing something today, but i'll try to update tomorrow with some charcoal drawings, which i havent done for quite awhile.
Thank You Cris'
It is always a pleasure Paul
Go get some sleep now and come back tomorrow filled with strength!
I don't think the 2 o'clock painting is at fault here, but the time you spent looking at it. Have you flipped it btw?
Thanks for the comment man! I likey the last one!
Thanks Justyna, it's funny that people like those environments which i don't really like doing and was considering as terri-bad. I guess i'll have to push that subject in the future, and definitely will as i want to be a great concept artist, that can tackle many topics, whether it's character design, vehicle design environments, portraits or whatever, that's my dream, thats my goal!
Speaking of vehicle design, i got inspired by Zzhuzhu which is Feng Zhu and did some vehicle concepts. I'm also doing some charcoal stuff but i'll update tomorrow when i'll finish some of them, so stay tuned.
Oh my goodness! it's been awhile! "mohr' Cholak se rakohn" which means you are killing it dude!!!
things start to take shape, dude I am beating myself with a baseball bat for not doing art but I had some really rough time, but it's behind now... I am writing this post from a new house which totally rocks, it is a two story ground house and gets tons of light especially in the morning and has huge windows which means I am full with inspiration and almost ready to get back on track and do some artsy stuffsy...
we have a lot to catch up upon brother keep updating please I love seeing you progress once I get back dude there is no stopping us!@#!@#!@!!!!!!111
Even danny is pumped up about your charcoal, so we are awaiting the big one it seems! Looking forward to it in any case
The first two designs have a particular nice look.
The third one, the helicopter, looks a bit to long in my opinion. Doesn't seem to balanced. Perhaps a bigger propeller would do.
Will you render any of them up?
Have a sweet weekend!!
BlackDelphin Maybe i will..... naaah i don't think so
I need to practice rendering first, I admit i have weak knowledge of materials :<
Justyna Dziekuje, a ty cwicz is ie nie poddawaj :]
Some shizzle i did when i was not slacking, i had a short break where i did not draw at all like 2 days, it was a rusty comeback, phew. Drewing requires constant practice, or maybe it's just me, im so weeeaak ! and i want to improve so badly :/
Ok I've finally foun out which charcoal pencils are great for drawing! yay!
Conté a Paris : Pierre Noire 1710 series. B, 2B preffered.
Primo pencils are also great and cheaper than contés, unfortunately for me
they are unavailable where i live.
So i will order those conté, they work great with cheap smooth newsprint, whcih i lack yet.
I did mine on bristol paper, but it's a pain in the ass to be honest, trying to build up layers of charcoal on it is a struggle.
Last edited by Icecold; April 19th, 2010 at 11:19 AM.
Well you did do render them up a bit traditionally so basically i don't have what to complain about tehehe you did it
Your thumbs look really good and tidy too!
Hope you get the pens that you want really soon!!
Portraits have some really nice values. I particularly like the one on the right. She has some really beautiful lips!
Digi guy looks promising as well.
Nice seeing you update so much, really, i am glad!
Now all we need is encourage danny some more.
He's all set up in his new home, so perhaps things will fall into place right about now.