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    How's the Perspective and the Anatomy?

    How does she look so far? Any redlining or critiques would be welcome. Be as critical as possible because without honesty, I'll never improve.


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    Anyone?

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    you should try to take this a bit further by giving more shape in means of adding some shading and details, now its really hard to read and to critique

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    Why don't you just quickly clean it up? You have the sketch, so turning it into line art will only take a few minutes. More people will help you that way.

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    nevermind the perspective or anatomy your line quality needs attention' the drawing is painful to read as it is so messy and unclear.

    the best was to learn about drawing is to browse some sketchbooks here at ca.

    start with bumskee, danielC Algenpfleger

    look trough all the pages and save the best drawings to your hard drive.

    then study the fuck out of them, and ask yourself questions like, why did he use that line there? why is that line darker?

    btw you should use a real pencil on paper to learn to draw first, so get studying these ppl you wont regret it.
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    Purity WIP (Need c&c)

    Pretty self-explanitory, no?

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    like the angle better than i can do so cant really critique. xx

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    How's the Shading so far?

    Pretty self-explanitory.
    Last edited by Saigokarasu; February 12th, 2009 at 08:07 PM.

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    Pretty slick, you could possibly add a stronger light source.

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    Very pink. Skin has a lot more yellow in it than people first realize - take some eyedrop samples of snapshots for an idea of range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniGoth View Post
    Very pink. Skin has a lot more yellow in it than people first realize - take some eyedrop samples of snapshots for an idea of range.
    The background is a light blue and the light is coming from a window.

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    More than anything when it comes to the shading you're going to want to consider the time of day. Actually, because this photo is close to a window several re-colorings of this in different times of day could really help you improve. But also consider if she is being back-lit by the window her face will be shadowed a bit more and her butt will probably become the center of focus. Something that really works for helping an image "come to life" is making the base a neutral color while mid tones have a slightly more intense color, and returning the highlights to neutrality, will give the image a more balanced, realistic, and voluminous look. You may want to look at the gestalt of the image and paint in all of the items first so that you may not only use them as reference, but we'll be able to help you more My shading critique is on her hip, and wondering where it is? The yellow you've added has made its shape really ambiguous, so just refine it a bit and it should turn out nicely!

    Beautiful perspective! I really want to see this finished! And never be afraid to use a reference photo's when you're unsure of how to color something! It will really help you grow as an artist

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    Redoing the skin layer. Thoughts?

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    The skin looks pretty good to me. Before you redo it, consider that how well the skin works is heavily dependent on how well it meshes with the rest of the picture. With that in mind, I'd at least block in some basic tones for the rest of the image before going back to the flesh.

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    The skin tones look great to me. The only problem is once you had the background color, it might start to throw of the skin tone values from the contrast.
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    Pigeonkill has a good point. White washes out any color it's next to; try filling that white background with some neutral color before going much farther.
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    Much bettah.

    You may wish to think about the colors of the room, as they should affect the skin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soulweaver View Post
    Pigeonkill has a good point. White washes out any color it's next to; try filling that white background with some neutral color before going much farther.
    The background is going to be blue.

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    So block out the background with a blue wash as soon as possible (even if you don't detail it right away).

    What I was trying to say is that the harsh white will inevitably alter your perception of your other colors as you paint. Your colors and lighting look fine now, but they may look very different against a blue color.
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    this is very good, you have improved alot since the last time i saw you do skin. are you using a ref for this? something to be careful about when using a ref and changing the background color (i assume this is what you are doing based on the color of the shadows) is the reflected light from say the sheets and the walls will change the color of the shadows. like is mentioned above i would recommend that you block in the background color very early in the painting process, this helps to keep the painting consistent and makes judging vales much easier (although youve done a fine job so far) if you just put a background with out considering the reflected lights the figure will look pasted on (the same way movies look when green screen is badly done)

    also you might reconsider the head size, im not sure but it looks very big to me even considering the extreme perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattsang View Post
    also you might reconsider the head size, im not sure but it looks very big to me even considering the extreme perspective.

    Probably because of the hair...

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    All the white bothers me.

    Put down a background color.

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    Looking really good so far. I'm going to second what people have been saying about getting the blue in there and watching the ambient lighting. Other than that, I also second Rattsang's opinion - her head looks like it might be too big. I also can't tell if it's supposed to be behind her shoulder or in front of it, there's something of a weird tangent going on there.
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    Wow, the tranformation is amazing. How'd you do that!? Looks so good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bai Fan View Post
    All the white bothers me.

    Put down a background color.
    I 2nd on that bkgrd color, Looking good so far other than that
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    Added a background color.

    Been busy so I haven't been able to work on this.

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    (Hair) I think I shot myself in the foot...

    I went through the basics of the hair through the Captured Bristle tool in painter, however I got so caught up in the values to the point where now if I try doing finer details, I won't be able to get that layered look I desire. Should I just start over?
    Last edited by Saigokarasu; February 18th, 2009 at 12:59 AM.

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    I really really REALLY advise you work the piece as a whole. Your problem is you're individualizing parts, like the skin and such, when people said paint in a background. You're focused on detailed parts instead of how the picture should work as a whole. You don't necessarily need to "start over", if you keep everything separate you'll run into this problem constantly.

    Rough everything in and I mean everything. Work in the details of the hair later.

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    Ditto what Arshes mentioned. In my opinion, you might need to start over on the hair, it doesn't look like it's quite on the head (hair line doesn't wrap around right). It'd help if you really massed in the hair, get its major planes down so you have a good foundation for the finer detail. Though I'm sorry that my reply probably doesn't answer what you were asking for in your original question. I'm having a bit of trouble understanding your predicament right now actually. Care to rephrase it? What is that layered look you desire? Any examples?
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