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    Ere's that clown. Tried to lose most of the lines and stuff without losing concept. Fixed some perspective etc.

    Went into a loop of refinement... But I finally decided to leave it as is and maby get some crits.

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    This study is nowhere near exhasted. I will spend some more time with it. It feels fun, like bridgeman fun. I guess the brain releases some sort of chemical if you draw form in a satisfactory way.





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    Nice job jamming on those studies, looks like you're really learning how to create some form and mass there. Try and use some of those concepts in your clown painting if you want to take it to the next level and give it some depth. Good work!

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    OK, bit off more than I could chew

    I spent four nights, about 5 hours doing this study.

    I copied it from a picture, made my canvas the same size.

    I started building her over using constuction, screwed up because I forgot to start with balance so she ended up tipped to the side, did it over then kinda ended up with an exact constuction, then I spent time tweaking it to make it look the same.

    Then I did a tonal arrangement thing, should have used grey scale as amber was too close to the actual skin tone and it confuuuused me.

    Then I did color, tried not to pick, but struggled for quite a while so I decided to pick color but to observe them and the way they behave regarding saturation hue etc. Quite alot to learn there so it's not a such a waste. Some sublte skin stuff that makes HUGE differances.

    Back to basics, for a while before I try this again.

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    Great job with the colors and the hair on the last one. Just curious what brush you used on the hair.

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    Thanx

    No brushes yet. Not even an oval. So I guess a round smallish round brush with hardish edges.

    I guess it's trying to capture the accurate light effect, hue and brightness shift to communicate the behavior of hair that's the trick. I am only starting to build palette and color behaviour experience so I just picked what I saw that needs to be there somehow. But mine hasn't been taken to the extreme; I was kind of sloppy there.

    This is my favorite, Can't render them on that detail level so I exaggerated it(Sorry lady).

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    Great studies. I like the planar analysis ones. Just curious did you work with layers on the digital portrait of the girl?

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    You've got some serious photoshop skills. Keep up with photoshop and with the anatomy studies. Thanks for taking the time to look at my thread.

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    Ninjac:
    Thanx, Yes I tried to, I used a background layer, construction layer, tone but somewher I started painting on the wrong layers(Not used to it yet) so I flattened it and just went for it. I was copying a picture but tried to rebuild it with construction first to see how close I can get it, I helped alot and made getting the right proportions much quicker than a 2d shapes and spaces way of copying, I did use that in the end to tweak the contours and of course, cheating with color picking later on. Construction was fast, trying to get the tones right just by eyeballing took ages and I din't get it perfectly, I will do one again but using grayscale tone, the amber I used as in the background was too confusing, I kept thinking in color instead of tone.

    I did not do any layer tweaking. I tried to set stuff down the way I wanted them for learning.

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    Thanx man, will do.

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    I'm doing some mentor lessons from the Community mentoring thread:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...=110528&page=2

    But without hijacking the original thread I tought I'd follow along from my scetch book, Crits and advice would be greatly appreciated.

    I'm struggling with tonal strategy, how do I go about keeping tonal color representations constant without being mathematical about it? The second I did free hand perspective so it's a bit wonky, I mainly wanted to focus on color consistency in shades.

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    There is a quick and easy way to get multiple local color on the same surface. They kinda hinted at it in the thread around th part with the cone, the lasso tool.

    -Paint the cube with a white local color(value)
    -use some selection tool to selection tool to select the area you want to change to some other local value
    -change the painting color to pure black and very lightly go over the selected area with a Single Stroke. It will darken everything proportionally. If you use multiple strokes it wont cover evenly and it will make lines.
    (large round brush, very lightly, single stroke)
    You can use various pressures or multiple passes to get darker values, cover everything and cover it evenly.

    This method is fairly useful for cubes, but its fantastic for spheres or smooth surfaces, where changing the local value wold require meticulous and timely painting which could otherwise be solved with a single stroke .

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    Ahh, I missed that.

    Thx

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    The girl is very good!Bully for you

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    Maybe in my dreams Jimmy, hehehe!!


    Pushing on with this planes thing. The slow mode seems to be working for me, stick on it till you get it kinda thing, not there yet but random stuff is reaching me piece by piece every day.




    Descovered the pencil pen eraser pencil pen eraser thing, it has it's potential, I need work though.


    Oops with her/his left ear. Hehehehe!!

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    I like the head studies,
    I see you growing in each post.

    Keep pushing.

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    Thanks for stopping by my sb, dude! some very good improvement from top to bottom of first page. I dont think you should stop doing those photo studies. Everytime i do one i wish i did them more often. You will use everything you learn on those for all your other work.

    Even on your anatomy studies try to keep the lines longer so you have to do less of them and you become more confident.

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    nice stuff man i read up on your philosiphy when to learn and when to play in art. Good stuff

    also the clown , funny as hell XD

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    Thanx for the comments dudes!! I really appreciate it.

    Doing another,

    This time in Grey,

    The construction and stuff is wonky this time around but I didn't want to spend a month on it, The tone study has thus far been more giving in terms of learning, My darks weren't dark enough etc.. Good learning.

    Will work on the color version soon and no color picker this time.

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    Hey - thanks for the cool reply to my sketchbook

    I really like the progress i'm seeing here! I like the work on the skin-tones, both B/W and color. Keep it up!

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    nice studies, looking really good, I also recommend setting up and painting some still lives or self portraits, you are improving already, just keep drawing

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    Thanx for the heads up and comments.

    My scetchbook looks a little repettative at the moment so I won't upload all that junk. Busy with the shoulders and neck area, I thought the pelvis was hard.

    Gave the Gimp a throw. Not that bad. Just started drawing something simple listening to some William Orbit. Hehehe!!

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    Uninstalled Gimp the first time it went into Major Crash mode. It was like stuck like that for more than ten minutes of trying to kill it. I bet it's better on Linux. Checked out dogwaffle. I am quite impressed but I am using a CS3 trial now untill I purchase it.

    Was bored. Played with some texture potential.

    What do you mean my art is crappy?

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    My first try at gore or horror. I can see that I will need to make a habit of collecting refs. There are just too much to remember at this point of time.


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    Got a photo ref, and tried to apply what I see to mr craphead.

    Looks better but not quite as vile as I would have liked it to be.
    Kinda developed a taste for this "Start vague and enhance" idea all the tuts and magazines keep hammering on.
    The underwater corpse idea will be my next victim.

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    Started some animal anatomy studies today.

    Looks a little goofy at the moment. I'm hoping that the comparrative anatomy will help me with human anatomy in some way. I think it might be a good one to get for later creature desighn.











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    Heya Zaorr. Your animal studies are looking pretty good. I love the gestural qualities you've captured in some of them. (especially the horse on the left on the last pic) Keep at it, some of them may look a bit goofy like you mentioned, but I definitely think you got it in you to kick ass.

    I gotta say all the head studies you were doing were inspiring and it really makes me feel bad that I haven't done that more (I kinda have some trouble with heads). Actually your general fire for improving is much of an inspiration - and I can definitely see the improvement from your first post. Hope you continue to pump out the good work.

    Oh, and thanks for swinging by my SB - sorry I took my sweet time in replying, life's been kind of a harsh mistress. That, and I didn't get an update for some reason.

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    Thanx

    At the moment I can't really take any credit for them. I am still copying outta da book.

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    Good studies.

    I like how you take a lot of time to make them accurate and detailed.

    A few problems that I can see right off hand however;

    Your line work could use a lot of improvement. Instead of making the hairy scratchy lines present in your most recent digital study of the wet naked girl sitting on the stone make longer more flowing lines. This applies to all of your drawings, even those studies where the linework is going to be covered up anyway. Get into a good habit.

    To help with this Scott Robertson suggests doing pages and pages of just lines, curved and straight.

    Place dots across different points of a page and just try your best to connect them cleanly, smoothly, and accurately. You will see progress on short order.

    Try doing a few pages of super quick gestural studies here and there too, they will help you out a lot in getting a lot of information very quickly.

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    Thanx.

    The habit is kinda clinging, my handwriting is also crappy as I never leant to involve more than my finger tips.

    I accidentally misinterpreted the author's brush exercises in that book as him referring to a pencil as a brush cuz thatís what it looked like, pencil strokes and hatching. That mental trick stuck and is kind of doing it for me at the moment, changing the way I work with it, but it will take a while because I still go back to my old crappy ways after drawing for a while, treating it like a writing instrument. I like the way some brushes in photoshop also create that feel, I can just paint random lines and crap on a screen for a few hours enjoying that but it hasnít fused into my work yet.

    Some drills will follow for sure.

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    Smore copying and horsing around with stuff from Ken Hultgren's book.

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