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    Nihongo ga Hanasu?

    Yoooo and なにかあった?

    I figured this wouldn't be a bad post in the lounge. Sorry if it is a bit off topic. ^^;

    I'm trying to learn Japanese so I can go to Japan to be an English Teacher next year. I want to be ahead of the game, even though you don't HAVE to know any Japanese. I've been trying EVERYWHERE to find people to chat in Japanese with but I really can't find anyone. ;_; But hey, I figured why not try here as well? There are amazing artists from all over the world that travel all over the world! So I was hoping I could find some Japanese speaking people here. ^__^

    I don't mind if you're learning as well or if you know it fluently. If you'd like to chat I'd be soooo appreciative!

    So! でわまたあとで!
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    すこし日本語話しますけど、全然よくない。。。

    You'll find many learners of Japanese on most forums (here may be some too), but to find real Japanese people, you probably have to stick to Japanese sites.

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    Watashi no Nihongo wa totemo dame desu. Daigaku ni Benkyo shimashita. A long time ago. Katakana to hiragana mo sukoshi wakarimasu kedo Kanji wa zenzen wakarimasen.

    I've been looking for a reason to get back in an perhaps get somewhat fluent. I still have my college books. The above is probably just gibberish. .

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    First, I've only heard the hanasu form in a couple situations. It might work in that context, it might not. Usually when you learn for the first time, people are taught to use the more polite hanashimasu. (Usually,the su is short,so it might sound and be spoken as hanashimas)

    Second, questions usually use either the particle ka or ne at the end, since they don't change the sentence structure for questions like in english.

    So your sentence should read more like:

    Nihongo ga hanashimasu ka? (hanashimaska)

    Hopefully, someone else will know a bit more and feel motivated to help you.

    Anyway:

    Hai, nihongo ga skoshi wakarimasu to hanashimasu to kakimasu. Ima, urusai to e wo kakimasu.
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    少し話します。。。

    only a little and I'm very rusty x__x

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    I made only a brief attempt at self teaching. Stuff looks familiar, and a few words still stick, but only a few very basic words.

    If I remember right though "ka" at the end is the basic way to form a question. the "ne" is something along the lines of when you make a statement, then ask for agreement (turning a statement into a question of sorts).

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    yeah, you don't need ka if you're speaking really informally, and the ? symbol probably indicates tone of voice, but i second the hanashimasu statement...

    I took it in university for a bit and then with a tutor for a bit after that, but I kind of suck.

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    When I was younger I just wanted to know stuff about the daily life of the Japanese. What were their supermarkets like, what did their normal house gardens look like, what do they have for dinner in a normal family, and so on. I figured that talking to a normal school-going person would help me figuring those things out and make some friends to boot

    In the end, I now talk a rusty japanese, I'm probably making a ton of mistakes, but I did find a couple of nice friends who've tried to submerge me a bit in their culture. Imagine getting those really pretty letters printed on beautiful handmade paper with pictures added to them of that persons surroundings. And my god, the japanese have a knack for making anything look pretty. Some of these people came over to Holland, bringing plenty stories and little trinkets.

    To cut a long story short, this is where I went.
    http://www.japan-guide.com/local/
    It's a site for people looking for penpals, be it traditional or digital mail. Lots of japanese people of all ages who are very keen on learning english, and teaching you japanese. It'll help you build contacts too in the place you're going to! It's always worth a shot

    Have lots of fun when you go. Bring a camera. And please, if you go to Kyoto, do visit Gion for me..

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    Sugoi ^__^

    Quote Originally Posted by Maidith
    すこし日本語話しますけど、全然よくない。。。

    You'll find many learners of Japanese on most forums (here may be some too), but to find real Japanese people, you probably have to stick to Japanese sites.
    あっ、そうですか。ええ、でも。。。私は日本語をすこしはなす。だから。。。私はともだちがあ ました。

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    Watashi no Nihongo wa totemo dame desu. Daigaku ni Benkyo shimashita. A long time ago. Katakana to hiragana mo sukoshi wakarimasu kedo Kanji wa zenzen wakarimasen.
    Hai! Watashi wa kanji ga yomasen. Ima, kanji ga benkyomasu demo hiragana mo yomasu.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zaxer
    First, I've only heard the hanasu form in a couple situations. It might work in that context, it might not. Usually when you learn for the first time, people are taught to use the more polite hanashimasu. (Usually,the su is short,so it might sound and be spoken as hanashimas)

    Second, questions usually use either the particle ka or ne at the end, since they don't change the sentence structure for questions like in english.

    So your sentence should read more like:

    Nihongo ga hanashimasu ka? (hanashimaska)

    Hopefully, someone else will know a bit more and feel motivated to help you.

    Anyway:

    Hai, nihongo ga skoshi wakarimasu to hanashimasu to kakimasu. Ima, urusai to e wo kakimasu.
    A, hai hai!Zaxer-sama yoshii suru!Shitsureishimasu douzo...

    You are absolutely correct! I was being very informal. That would get me bad looks in Japan--I know! One reason was I am just now learning about Verbs. I've probably done three lessons on them. (I'm using Rosetta Stone, the Japanese DS game and a book called Elementary Japanese.) I know you can leave the "su" for hanasu for present tense. To make it formal, I couldn't remember if it was "masu" or "shimasu" or what, so I figured I might as well go with something I at least knew was semi-correct. Thank you so much! ^__^

    Mo, sou desu ka.

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    少し話します。。。
    Hehe, よしいする!日本語がべんきょします!も、はじめまして!

    Quote Originally Posted by J Wilson
    If I remember right though "ka" at the end is the basic way to form a question. the "ne" is something along the lines of when you make a statement, then ask for agreement (turning a statement into a question of sorts).
    Ee! "Ka" is a question marker in most cases. In some phrases, such as "Sou desu ka," it does not make said sentence a question. "Ne" could be translated closely to "Don't you agree?", like you said. ^___^

    Quote Originally Posted by Daestwen
    yeah, you don't need ka if you're speaking really informally, and the ? symbol probably indicates tone of voice, but i second the hanashimasu statement...
    Hai!

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    Imagine getting those really pretty letters printed on beautiful handmade paper with pictures added to them of that persons surroundings.
    *Melts*... That would be SO beautiful! I would love that! And thank you SO MUCH for the site! I bet it will help a lot!! I will be sure to carry a camera around with me. I'll probably go, if I can get in, next year around July. I'll definitely post them up here if I do--and I will try to visit Gion for you!

    To everyone:

    Thank you so much for the replies!!! I was not expecting any at all! It would be wonderful to keep this topic going with small random Japanese chatter. ^___^

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    Thank you Cosmo! :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehna View Post
    ..even though you don't HAVE to know any Japanese.
    If you have serious plans to go to Japan I would enter a course with at least a couple of classes a week and study your ass off every day. It will solve or help you solve more than 90% of your problems when you are here.

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    Yay! That would be awesome. I have such a weak spot for traditional japanese culture.

    Looky here if you want to see why Gion strikes my interest. Aren't they fascinating?
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/mboogiedown/sets/1131408/
    (I must have saved each one on my drive for reference and that little bit of daydreaming on a busy day)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tensai
    If you have serious plans to go to Japan I would enter a course with at least a couple of classes a week and study your ass off every day. It will solve or help you solve more than 90% of your problems when you are here.
    Will do! I try to study as much as possible every day. ^__^ Thank you for the advice!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tangrim
    Looky here if you want to see why Gion strikes my interest. Aren't they fascinating?
    Oh my GOSH! They are BEAUTIFUL!! Now *I* really want to go!!
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    the Pimsleur cd series is great if you want a few words and phrases. for much more I suggest taking a class at a community college or something.

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    I would love to, but they don't have any classes at the community colleges over here. ;__;
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    I've had some lessons at my university to hopefully help me get a place studying theyre for a couple of months next year. I'm slacking a bit lately. Form what i can tell though its easier to talk than to write form a western point of view

    Kempai!

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    I've learnt it a bit when i was in school. The hiragana and katakana is seriously easy when you get the hang of it, which is why i scored.
    I tried to learn kanji by myself but it's hard. It's much easier for my chinese friends though cause most of the characters are the same, just that its pronounced differently.

    I say go watch as much anime/drama (with subtitles and later without) and listen to japanese music, it's the fastest way to learn a language when you indulge in the culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizon
    Baka Baka Baka
    DDD: Inai. ;-; Ima, kanashiidesu. ;-;

    Quote Originally Posted by Smarty
    I've had some lessons at my university to hopefully help me get a place studying theyre for a couple of months next year.
    Suzushii! I wish my university had some classes. ;_; Unfortunately they don't. Utilize it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shamandalie
    I've learnt it a bit when i was in school. The hiragana and katakana is seriously easy when you get the hang of it, which is why i scored.
    Ee! I'm still working on Katakana. A helpful tool to learn Kanji is the Elementary Japanese book. That teaches you more Kanji every other lesson. ^__^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zehna View Post
    I would love to, but they don't have any classes at the community colleges over here. ;__;
    In that case I think your best bet is to buy the pimsleur cds for Japanese. It gives you a good start and really drills the pgrases into your head. I haven't tried but I'd be willing to bet that learning what you do from that will make it easier to learn more later.

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    Rosetta Stone is good to have as well.
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    I recommend the book "Japanese for Everyone". It's a very helpful book. http://www.amazon.com/Japanese-Every...1441854&sr=8-1
    The one I linked to is the newer version, but you can also get the old one, which is the one I have. I'm not sure what the differences are.

    You can also eliminate the "Nihongo wa hanashimasu ka" question by just going with "Nihongo ga dekiru(n desu ka)?" (optional in parenthesis). Most Japanese don't care about formality particularly if you're a gaijin. They give you a lot of leeway. I don't know how many times I said, "Eego hanase?" which means "let go of English" instead of asking if people could speak it. Just go with dekiru. It does just about everything.
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    What are some good websites where Japanese and Foreigners can contact each other about various subjects? Whether it be language, art, hobbies, pen pals etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tangrim View Post

    To cut a long story short, this is where I went.
    http://www.japan-guide.com/local/
    It's a site for people looking for penpals, be it traditional or digital mail. Lots of japanese people of all ages who are very keen on learning english, and teaching you japanese. It'll help you build contacts too in the place you're going to! It's always worth a shot

    Have lots of fun when you go. Bring a camera. And please, if you go to Kyoto, do visit Gion for me..

    Right there Cosmo

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    Whoops, thank you.
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    you should really check out http://iknow.co.jp... if you use it religiously (like every day), and repeat out loud everything they present to you until you can say it and understand it as fast as they say it then you will gauranteed find yourself progressing much quicker than with anything else I've found.

    To learn language you must use it. That means speaking and listening to real people. Your best bet is to find Japanese people in your area or make friends on skype and have actual conversations. You can read all the books you want, and watch all the anime you want, and sing-a-long to ayu-chan! if you want, it might help, but it certainly wouldn't be my main focus.

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    learning the root form of verbs and their conjugations is a big jump from the polite forms you will find in almost all beginner books, but it's something that should be done as soon as you possibly can... otherwise you will not be able to progress beyond the normal everyday greetings, introductions and 1 idea sentences and questions.

    Once you understand the conjugations of normal verb-stems you can progress to more advanced particles and sentence structures... -te form wrappers and etc.

    but before you do anything else... learn Hiragana and Katakana cold and USE it. Romaji is the work of the devil and is a huge hindrance to your internalizing of the language. Don't use it as a crutch, use the real thing.

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    Gion is a nice place if you like thousands of japanese tourists with their cameras, tripods, and oversized flash units But of course is a must see anyway.

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    I recommend using Pimsleur if you want to learn conversational Japanese at a fairly quick and accurate rate. Most classes teach proper Japanese. Though certainly understandable, most Japanese won't speak to you in such a way unless you're on very official business or dining with some hob nobs. Getting conversational Japanese down first is far more important than learning "proper"/polite Japanese. You generally don't have to worry about reading because much of the road systems are in English, quite a few understand English, and everyone learns to read/write English as well.

    When you get conversational Japanese down; you'll do fine to find your way around places, meet people, get directions, women/men, and learn more Japanese.

    Nihongo is one of the most complex languages there are, and in different situations and context; The same thing/item may be referred to differently. Same with people, places, things and so on. As said above; learning proper Japanese is a problem people run in to and I think it hampers their ability to access the language. Same with many other languages. Learning the building blocks and creating a relative foundation is a better way to introducing yourself to the language and through the time turning those blocks over; You'll learn the proper manner of the language yourself.

    Just be sure you're polite when you come here.

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