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    Are you an Ayn Rand fan by any chance?

    I like how you keep doing your exercises consistently. My problem is self-discipline, I always let some "important reason" trigger me back to laziness.

    Anyway, you seem to be struggling with proportion. I am not very good at knowing what to do and more proficient artists might be able to advise you better, but I developed some tricks that might help you too.

    Get the image you are copying at a size that would fit the paper you are drawing. Then get your pencil and get it close to the image and measure the lenght of the head, tip to your finger. Move it carefully to your paper and mark that distance in your paper. Then measure the distance from the head to the nipples in the image, and mark that. Nipples to waist and mark that. Wideness to shoulder to shoulder, and mark that. Use the pencil to find and draw vertical and horizontal axles to guide you. For instance, a vertical one starting on her shoulder going all the way up and all the way down. What parts of her body does that axle meet in the picture? Where is her hand in relation to that? How wide are her hips in relation to the shoulders?

    If my explanation is muddled and nobody else helps, I can try and do a visual process of this later.

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    Leonor, thank you for helping me with proportions. And, no I haven't read Ayn Rand, yet.

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    Working with Black Marking Pens (Faber-Castell)
    from medium to fine to superfine. Working with facial features.

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    I'm pretty demoralized. Hopefully I can snap out of it today.

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    It's not starting to look like the best week. Anyway,

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    My piss poor attempted at fabrics, folds, simple shapes, and trees

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    Work from the book "The Natural Way to Draw": Contour drawings.

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    More contour drawings from the Natural way to draw.

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    Some of these studies have very nice flow in them, but the proportions get distorted.
    Memorising proportions helped me very much, I read the Andrew Loomis' Figure Drawing for all it's Worth.
    here's a link to the online version of the book: http://fineart.sk/index.php?cat=12

    I hope this helps, keep on drawing.

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    Rotor: Yes, i do have the Loomis books, but I have hard time emulating his drawings and studies.

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    The models (pictures) in these contour drawing are far prettier then they appear.

    The book says I should draw these in 30 minutes to 1 hour interval, but I'm having difficulty achieving even 15 minutes.
    I keep losing focus on the where I was drawing.

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    Hey, that last page shows a lot of improvement, especially in terms of proportion. That perspective table, in particular, is looking really good.

    One of the things that took me a long time to figure out when drawing faces is that while we think of the face as being the entire from of the head, the actual features only take up about a half or third of that area. It might help if you think of it as leaving brain space in the head - the eyes go underneath the brain.

    I hope that makes sense, I'm pretty tired right now and the words are not coming out as easily as they should. Me talk good, now go bed sleep.

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    At gmc9987, I'm still pretty confused in drawing the head

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    Well i can't say much since i barely started drawing myself. But what might help out alot is that its important (atleast for me i think) to take your time, really take your time. Try to give every stroke a definition, every line should count. Not just a filler.

    So yea keep it up!

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    My scanner didn't want to work. So, I could only scan one picture.

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    a badly drawn flashlight and Bridgman practice.

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    Hello!
    Your proportions seem to have improved a lot on your last page, but still i think this is a point where you should really focus on at the moment, because getting the proportions right is crucial for any drawing...

    I guess when you start drawing something, (correct me if i am wrong) you just start drawing on one part of the figure, the head for example, and then work your way down to the feed, because this often leads to wrong proportions...
    Try to think about what you want to draw before you make your first lines..
    For example you might want to mark the highest part, the middle and the lowest part of your figure on the paper first (and maybe some other crucial points of the figure, like the knees, the eye level, the shoulder level, the hips etc) and then start to draw your lines, always checking the distances to those "measuring points".

    I hope i could help you a little bit

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    Basically, more bad studies

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    Hey Flashback,

    It looks like you are making improvement here. Good on you for doing those studies as I'm sure they will help you. I see your line getting more confident in there as well. As a thought, don't forget what you are learning in those studies when you start to draw people. It will help you to do a gesture drawing when drawing a person. That will help you to see if you have the proportions right. Look for the angle of the shoulder line and the hip line. Look for where the elbows and rists fall on the figure and what the line of the spine is doing. Gesture drawing is a really good tool to work on when trying to improve your drafstmanship. Here's a quick sketch as a version of one person's approach to gesture drawing. It took a couple minutes but already I can see where I have the proportions correct and where I need to make adjustments. Maybe it'll help you? Hope so... and good luck with your drawing

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    Thanks Bill.

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    I agree your last work shows improvement, so don't get demoralised.

    Here's how I approach the girl without cellulite on his bum. With envy.

    I reinforced the points I measured and the grid I created. Of course you will be doing this very lightly so you can erase it. I did measurements with my arm outstreched, marking the distance from tip of pencil to my nail (my mech pencil has this useful grooves.) Then I found angles, such as the line of the arm going from this point to that one. Note how she is all built mostly from straight lines at this point of the construction. I didn't finish it more so you can see what I mean, of course you would fine tune from then on and do your contours and etc. I this helps some. Ignore the crazy chibi woman, she has... issues. LOL!

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    I was thinking the exact thing Leonor.
    I think you should focus your time in the building of the picture, mainly in the measurements. When I was first starting out, grids really helped me with this. But, as I got better with it, I used the thumb technique. Its a little harder, but it leaves you less work to do, when you're finished.
    How are you measuring your objects?

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